“Please demonstrate”? You mean aside from the fact that I was responding to another poster who brought up this subject and aside from the fact that I’ve repeatedly (ad nausea at this point) said that I’m happy to have this conversation via private message? How on earth does one believe that I’m derailing the thread?
And this is why I responded when the Holocaust was raised as a topic initially. As someone who is knowledgeable about the Church and the Holocaust, it’s painful when fellow Catholics fail to acknowledge the Church’s role during that time in all its complexity. And it’s worse when this misinformation is used as an example in conjunction with other topics, like gay marriage. Rete, I’m sorry that you won’t engage with the content I suggested. I still don’t mean to be rude but you’re wrong here, Rete – factually and historically wrong. I’d prefer you weren’t (I receive no joy from acknowledging my Church’s failings) but you are. You could read the sources I offered but it’s probably easier to just assume that I’m a self-hating Catholic. That’s cool.
And I’m guessing that I’ll be blamed for slandering the Church without evidence (which I didn’t provide directly but instead provided a link to avoid getting further off-topic). And I’m guessing that I’ll be blamed for being defensive and wanting the last word. Can’t wait to see if I’m right.Poole,“Please demonstrate”? You mean aside from the fact that I was responding to another poster who brought up this subject and aside from the fact that I’ve repeatedly (ad nausea at this point) said that I’m happy to have this conversation via private message? How on earth does one believe that I’m derailing the thread?
And this is why I responded when the Holocaust was raised as a topic initially. As someone who is knowledgeable about the Church and the Holocaust, it’s painful when fellow Catholics fail to acknowledge the Church’s role during that time in all its complexity. And it’s worse when this misinformation is used as an example in conjunction with other topics, like gay marriage. Rete, I’m sorry that you won’t engage with the content I suggested. I still don’t mean to be rude but you’re wrong here, Rete – factually and historically wrong. I’d prefer you weren’t (I receive no joy from acknowledging my Church’s failings) but you are. You could read the sources I offered but it’s probably easier to just assume that I’m a self-hating Catholic. That’s cool.
So I’m guessing from the tenor of comments here that I’ll now be blamed for continuing a conversation about the Holocaust that’s off-topic.
I’m sorry – I think it would be wise to contact the following poster, since he/she is the one who made the original connection between the Holocaust and gay marriage.
I asked you…and you have just devalued your post here…
I more likely than not will find much of what you say in the future concerning any questions of less than noteable value.
Coptic, I thought you might have this kind of response. But in all honesty, since I didn’t link the two topics together in the first place, I can’t possibly speak to the purpose of doing so. No, I’m not aware of any churches that sanctioned gay marriages during the Holocaust. But of what value is that response when the connection between these topics 1) wasn’t mine to begin with, and 2) is exceptionally nebulous without the original poster explaining his or her reasoning for doing so? I’m not attempting to dodge your repeated question – I have no way to answer it meaningfully since I can’t read another poster’s mind.
I’ll certainly do my best to engage with a new thread if you decide to start one. (And just to be clear, Rete, I take issue with your claims but not with you.)