I'm going back to using my old protestant study Bibles!

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I just purchased the little rock catholic study Bible and wow what junk! I was really hoping it would have been somewhat comparable to my old niv study Bible. Of course it wasn’t, not even close! Thank God I never read or saw a catholic study Bible like this one while i wad contemplating becoming catholic or i would have never ever joined the church. What ****** foot notes. I prefer to build my faith rather than destroy it thank you! I wonder if they are even Christian. So i guess… I will continue using the nkjv womens study Bible, niv study Bible, and my nrsv-2ce. I can’t believe that there is nothing out there as a Catholic one volume study Bible. Ughhhhh.
My protestant Bibles are marked up with plenty catholic apologetics helps thanks to many hours of my hard work but gosh i am so upset!
Anyone else in this situation? Any suggestions???

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Oh my, I agree with you. I should confess that I have about 11 Study Bibles :o, I should also confess that I don’t have any hobbies or vices, after work and family obligations I spend time in the Bible and Christian literature and a couple of video games when my brain is the equivalent to mashed potatoes :).

I have been pondering acquiring Scott Hahn’s Understand Scriptures work.

I can’t live without cross-references! lol It helps people that have an attention span of 5 minutes, like myself :o.

I still go to my old Bible Study mornings on Thursday. I am the only Catholic there 😃 and the exchange with my Calvinist brethren is very interesting! lol (We also have Pentecostals, Baptists, Non-Denominational) However, we do it with respect and we are witnesses to God’s love in each one of us. The Lord has worked amazing things with most of us in the group and our bond goes beyond denominations. Neither one of us compromises thou… only our Lord understands what is going on!

Good Luck and God Bless
 
luvlyknits

I fully sympathize with how you feel, I’ve been there and felt the same before. I’m a convert from Southern Baptist and it took me a little while to find good Catholic sources, even though there are plenty out there. I guess that is one reason why I devote much of my time and energy to provide Catholic resources.

Someone gave the link to my website called the Aquinas Study Bible, and I do have a lot of resources online and everything on it is free. I do want to offer to buy you an Ignatius Study Bible 1 volume New Testament. I will send it to you as a free gift. I will also send you a Douay Rheims Challoner Bible, which is a Catholic Bible that was put together by Bishop Richard Challoner, it as great footnotes, but very concise. I would be happy to be able to do this because, first of all my passion is to provide others with great Catholic resources, and two, I want to know that you are provided with good traditional Catholic material, not the garbage that somehow gets out there. If you like you can browse my facebook profile to know I am not just some scammer or creep facebook.com/john.litteral
 
I have The Orthodox Study Bible. It doesn’t have the best, indepth notes or articles, but it’s decent and to the point. I’d say at least 95% of it agrees with Catholic teachings; at least! I have the leather edition, which is only $30 at Christian Book. I also have the RSV-2CE in paperback; it’s not the Study Bible, as I’m waiting for the OT to be completed to buy the whole thing in a leather covering.
 
I would be wary of Protestant bibles. Just as an example, I ran a search on several, and the words which Catholics tranlate “do penance” are translated merely as “repent” by the Protestants. So to them, because of their translation, the Bible says nothing about doing penance.
The word is metanoia, which means “to change mind”, and means repent. Only the DR, translating from the Vulgate, translates it as do penance, as the Latin is not subtle enough to be able to express the concept of “repent” over against the performance of penance. This is not anti-Catholic at all: how does one repent? By doing penance! What does the Greek say? Repent!

Now, the fact that presbuter (priest) and episkopos (bishop) are translated as “elder” and “overseer” in many Bibles - including all Catholic ones except for the NAB and DR - is a little worse. As are mistranslations of the Virgin Birth narrative (KnNT), “had not had sexual relations with her until after she had given birth”.

But, with something like the RSV-CE tearing the actual prophecy of the Virgin Birth out of the Old Testament, de-Christianizing the entire thing (especially the Psalms), translating “thou” subconsciously biased against Christ’s deity, it’s hard to complain.

Outside of a very few instances (translating the Gk “erg” words, for one), such as translating the “erg” words - those that mean “work” - as something that has no implication of “good works” in any place where it would affirm Catholic doctrine, and this only in the NIV (a poor translation), very few mainstream translations are specifically biased outside of those produced by cults, such as the New World Translation, or those by individuals, even exceptional scholars, such as The Kingdom New Testament (NT Wright), The Five Gospels (Crossan and Borg), Knox’s Translation (Knox), etc., as they don’t have a committee to keep individual idiosyncrasies in check.

Of course, the most Catholic Bible, and the most reliable Bible, I believe is the Douay-Rheims Challoner revision, but it can be a true clunker in English. Much more beautiful, and nearly as accurate, is the King James Version, the Confraternity, the New King James, the New American Standard, and, to a lesser extent, the English Standard, the Original Jerusalem Bible (without notes only), and the Revised Standard - Second Catholic Edition.

Now, myself, I only use the Douay-Rheims and the King James and New King James and New American Standard, because I believe in the Traditional Text (the Vulgate and Byzantine text-type, of which I believe the Byzantine to be more pure, but neither differs on any matter of consequence, unlike the Byz and the Critical), and do not accept the naturalistic, secular methodology, nor, in consequence, the conclusions of - disregarding inspiration and preservation - the modern “critical text” theories (anything translated from Nestle-Aland; the BHS Old Testament is the Traditional Text as much as Bomberg is), where a text which was never lost or corrupted is felt to be needing to be restored.

That rounds out my list of “acceptable Bibles”, and, although I may have forgotten a few, note the conspicuous absence of the faith-destroying NAB, the Liberal Feminist Jewish Tanakh with a Unitarian New Testament strapped on called “NRSV”, the unbelieving NJB, etc., and the conspicuous presence of the arch-Protestant KJV. Even the Geneva Bible’s renderings itself aren’t very objectionable: like the NAB, the text isn’t objectionable, the notes are, although I’d rather read an anti-Catholic Bible, than an all-around anti-Christian secular one.
 
Although, on topic, I use either a Haydock (it’s massive, one needs a lectern to read it), or, more commonly, a text-and-cross-references-only edition of the Bible (generally a KJV) and a separate commentary.

For the NT, the ICSB is good. For the whole Bible, the Navarre is nice (but $400 and using a sub-par translation) with exceptional annotation. But even the best study Bibles in multiple volumes, excepting to some extent the Navarre (there are roughly 6-8 pages of notes on an average NT page, because the print is very small in the notes section) can not come close to the in-depth thoroughness of exegesis, whether historical or pastoral or theological, that an actual commentary can.

My favorite, complete single-volume study Bible is probably the Lutheran Study Bible published in ESV by Concordia. It makes extensive use of the Church Fathers (around a dozen cited quotations on the first page alone!), and teaches a historic Lutheranism, which is relatively close to Catholicism; there will be differences in emphasis, and differences in terminology, and some few hard and fast differences in doctrine (sola Scriptura, no Petrine supremacy in Matt 16:18ff cf. parallels op cit).

My preferred commentary at the moment is the Brazos Theological Commentary, written by Christian theologians instead of atheist, agnostic, or Unitarian critics and disbelievers, and written by Christian theologians of all denominations, and with a strongly and unapologetically Christian viewpoint. Those written by members of a certain denomination write from the viewpoint of that denomination, not “mere Christianity”, or, worse, but God forbid! it is a more frequent occurrence, secularity. The denominations represented so far are Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran, Reformed, and Wesleyan: all of the historic Christian confessions, from the ancient to the historic Reformation faiths.

The Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture (edited by Thomas Oden, author of Classic Christianity, a very Catholic-like or High Church Methodist who is heavily tilted in favor of the “ancient ecumenical consensus”, i.e. the First Seven, e.g. Orthodoxy) is also very good.

The best commentaries, bar none, are those written by the Church Fathers themselves, such as those of Origen, Basil, Augustine, Chrysostom, Aquinas, etc. (largely available in the 38-volume “Early Church Fathers” series, especially NPNF series 2, which is a collection of 14 volumes of the sermons and commentaries of Augustine and Chrysostom). Haydock makes very heavy use of the Patristic commentaries (most of the Haydock commentary is a catena of quotes of the Fathers), as does the Navarre Bible to a lesser degree.

CCSS is decent, but incomplete, lacking in depth, and hindered by its reliance on the NAB translation as a base text from which to comment upon.
 
Erratum, second paragraph: “excepting to some extent the Haydock” (replacing “Navarre”)
 
I can recommend The New American Bible St. Joseph Edition completely. It has a dictionary, pictures of actual artifacts, maps, nice study notes and cross references. In addition I have Catholicism for Dummies, Catechism of the Catholic Church (second edition) and Why Do Catholics Do That? all books I can recommend. I really enjoy reading this Bible and find it as easy to use as any of the several versions Protestant bibles I own and used to read for study and simply reading for pleasure. Don’t give up on reading a Catholic Bible until you check this one out! Actually, you may be able to do just that - see your local library and they may have a copy you can look over before you buy!

Also, the Kindle has these books! I also have The Word among us (Complete Catholic Mass and Daily Meditations) in both paper and Kindle version which I simply love. There are many, many wonderful Catholic books out there! Treat yourself!👍
 
Two solid recommendations:

haydock1859.tripod.com/

And my favorite (still a work in progress):

sites.google.com/site/aquinasstudybible/home

Especially the Lapide commentaries.^
Look really interesting.

Now that i have started to read my very first bible, RSV CE, i would love to buy a Study Bible too so that i can get some good notes etc. Nice having links like above but i would love a hands on study bible.

Any good ones as i have read the thread but quite a few recommendations to go by. Thanks
 
I bought the little rock study bible too. I was not impressed at all. The Ignatius Catholic Study Bible is the best Catholic study Bible in my opinion. Unfortunately, only the NT is available as a single volume at the minute. apparently the whole study Bible will be available as a single volume by 2015. There is talk of it being split into 2 volumes (1 OT, 1 NT) because of the size of it. Hopefully that wont be the case and it will be available as a single volume study Bible as it really is the best study Bible available in my opinion.
 
Look really interesting.

Now that i have started to read my very first bible, RSV CE, i would love to buy a Study Bible too so that i can get some good notes etc. Nice having links like above but i would love a hands on study bible.

Any good ones as i have read the thread but quite a few recommendations to go by. Thanks
Get, for a single-volume NT, the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible (RSV-2CE), or the Haydock (which is based on the Douay-Rheims and is similar to the King James in diction).

For the OT, single-volume, Haydock.

Sadly, there are no other single-volume Catholic Bibles of any sort that are not absolutely permeated either with a heretical form of liberalism-modernism (NJB) or with outright infidelity and unbelief (all incarnations of the NAB, full stop). When you are solid in Catholic truth, it may be profitable to read such Bibles as I have mentioned (the Lutheran Study Bible, the KJV Study Bible, the ESV Study Bible, the NASB Study Bible, the Life Application Study Bibles in KJV or NKJV, etc.), but, as for getting a grounding in good Catholic truth, I’d recommend the above alone along with a Catechism, or a plain Bible, that is, text and cross-references only (Douay-Rheims, King James, New King James, or New American Standard - with the full canon, even if one must buy the deuterocanon in a separate book called “apocrypha”) along with a catechism (either the modern one or the Roman Catechism/Catechism of the Council of Trent).

I find the “Cameo Reference Edition”, an edition of the King James with the full canon (including Catholic books), with cross-references in to and out of all books, published by Cambridge University Press, to be excellent, along with the Concord (which doesn’t include the full canon, but is single-column and paragraphed like a normal book).

Of course, the Haydock Bible (Catholic Treasures and Loreto) and the Douay-Rheims (Saint Benedict Press and TAN) are also excellent, although severely lacking in the cross-reference department.
 
Get, for a single-volume NT, the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible (RSV-2CE), or the Haydock (which is based on the Douay-Rheims and is similar to the King James in diction).

For the OT, single-volume, Haydock.

Sadly, there are no other single-volume Catholic Bibles of any sort that are not absolutely permeated either with a heretical form of liberalism-modernism (NJB) or with outright infidelity and unbelief (all incarnations of the NAB, full stop). When you are solid in Catholic truth, it may be profitable to read such Bibles as I have mentioned (the Lutheran Study Bible, the KJV Study Bible, the ESV Study Bible, the NASB Study Bible, the Life Application Study Bibles in KJV or NKJV, etc.), but, as for getting a grounding in good Catholic truth, I’d recommend the above alone along with a Catechism, or a plain Bible, that is, text and cross-references only (Douay-Rheims, King James, New King James, or New American Standard - with the full canon, even if one must buy the deuterocanon in a separate book called “apocrypha”) along with a catechism (either the modern one or the Roman Catechism/Catechism of the Council of Trent).

I find the “Cameo Reference Edition”, an edition of the King James with the full canon (including Catholic books), with cross-references in to and out of all books, published by Cambridge University Press, to be excellent, along with the Concord (which doesn’t include the full canon, but is single-column and paragraphed like a normal book).

Of course, the Haydock Bible (Catholic Treasures and Loreto) and the Douay-Rheims (Saint Benedict Press and TAN) are also excellent, although severely lacking in the cross-reference department.
A have a New American Bible St. Joseph Edition - are you saying it’s full of infidelity and unbelief or am I not understanding you?
 
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A have a New American Bible St. Joseph Edition - are you saying it’s full of infidelity and unbelief or am I not understanding you?
You’re understanding me correctly. The notes to every edition of the NAB that comes with notes are written from an atheistic, unbelieving point-of-view.
 
Yes, it is, but I’d recommend getting it in paperback - you probably can for 10 quid or so, or in hardcover, probably 15 ($15 and $19 USD respectively) - as Ignatius leather bindings don’t lay flat and the leather itself is nothing to write home about, from my experience with the full Ignatius RSV-2CE in brown/burgundy-ish leather (full Bible, no notes). I think it is actual Pigskin, and not Bonded, but it’s not quality leather and bindings such as come on a Cambridge or LCPB Bible.
 
Yes, it is, but I’d recommend getting it in paperback - you probably can for 10 quid or so, or in hardcover, probably 15 ($15 and $19 USD respectively) - as Ignatius leather bindings don’t lay flat and the leather itself is nothing to write home about, from my experience with the full Ignatius RSV-2CE in brown/burgundy-ish leather (full Bible, no notes). I think it is actual Pigskin, and not Bonded, but it’s not quality leather and bindings such as come on a Cambridge or LCPB Bible.
Thanks. Will prob skip the pigskin one then. Ta
 
Try the Orthodox Study Bible. Nothing there disagrees with Catholic teaching.

Also there is a companion series written by Fr. Lawrence Farley and published by Conciliar Press. You can listen to the free podcasts on Ancient Faith Radio, they are called “Coffee Cup Commentaries”.
I was going to recommend the Orthodox Study Bible too. To my understanding their outlook is largely (though not identically) equivalent to Eastern Catholic. It was a great bridge to me as I was overcoming the anti-Roman bias which is inherent to classical Protestantism. One caution is that their introduction is a little hard on the Pope, and they consider him and us(rather than themselves) to be in schism. Thus notes and outlook will be different than a Catholic Study Bible where it concerns the extent of Papal power, as well as Church Government. An Amazon reviewer also mentions that one commentator (Theo-something of Mopsuestia) has actually been declared a heretic by the Orthodox and is thus not a Church Father. As long as one is aware of this and other differences though(such as the filioque and purgatorial fires) the OSB is a great resource to make use of. Their notes focus on the Trinity and typology(reading the Bible allegorically). They have excellent explanations of things like Justification and the harmony between Law and Grace. Far better to help one study than anything coming out of the Reformation.
 
Yeah, pretty much. The introduction to the book and the essays are anti-Catholic (and useless even according to many Orthodox), and the notes on Papal/Petrine passages are biased to outright incorrect (repeating the old, long-discredited Protestant canards, with no regard to Greek grammar - you’d think Greeks could do better! - about how the Church was built on Peter’s confession of faith, and that “peter” and “petra” are pebble/boulder respectively…), but, beyond that, it’s a decent Bible. Some of their statements about the Trinity, disregarding the essence-energies distinction, are of dubious orthodoxy (they call the Trinity “they”, and the Holy Spirit “it” several times, off the top of my head).

The OT notes are especially great, shining with a complete and utter Christocentrism. However, it is translated from the Septuagint, so certain mathematical facts, such as the ages of the Patriarchs in Gen 5 and 11, are incorrect, and it does contain two books that are apocryphal (I/III Esdras and III Maccabees).

The layout leaves a bit to be desired, and the binding is glued, whether in hardcover or bonded leather. The notes are very sparse, too, even for a study Bible - it’s good to “dip one’s toes in the water”, but has very little depth beyond, surprisingly, pointing out Christological and typological interpretations that even modern multi-volume commentaries do not.

Even with all of these drawbacks, it would still be in the top five of single-volume study Bibles that I would recommend, and probably in the top three, after the Ignatius and the Haydock. (Even though the OT is translated from the LXX, the NT uses the NKJV, which is based on the correct Traditional/Byzantine text with all alternative readings - from Nestle-Aland and from the Majority Text - noted in the margin.)

The man mentioned above, Theodore of Mopsuestia, was declared a Monophysite by, I believe, the Fifth Ecumenical Council. However, other heretics (Origen, Tertullian, etc.) are still considered Fathers of the Church, and highly influential ones at that.

Let it be known, that there are very few Patristic quotations, and, honestly, quite few Patristic paraphrases, in the Orthodox Study Bible (Nelson, 1 vol.), no matter what it claims on the cover and in the introduction - it can be quite foreign to the “mind of the Fathers”. The commentaries of Aquinas (published by SSPX [Matthew, John] and Baronius [the Catena]), the Navarre Bible (10 vol. cloth, Universidad de Navarra/Four Courts/Scepter), Haydock’s Bible (Catholic Treasures, 2 vol. paper or 1 vol., leather over board), and the Lutheran Study Bible (Concordia, 1 vol.), all draw heavily and directly from the Fathers, and use direct Patristic quotations, unlike the OSB.
 
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