I'm having a problem giving up my virginity?

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OP, I’m going to apologize in advance if I sound harsh here, but how carefully did you discern your marital vocation before getting married? Pondering the holiness of virginity is all well and good. Given your marriage vows, it is not what you’ve been called to do. You have a duty before God and your husband (unless you were coerced against your will). You owe it to your marriage to determine if this is a physical issue, emotional/mental one or both. In regards to the GYN appointments, I’m sorry, but you are being childish to the extreme. Your marriage vows DO include the stipulation that you would welcome any children God gave you. Unless you’re OK with being doubly irresponsible, getting pregnant does involve having doctors and nurses view your private parts. Labor, particularly, can be quite intrusive. Most women endure this not because they’re OK with it, but because they value the life of their child as well as their own. As to your father-in-lawN your husband is failing you. A man is to “cling to his wife” and “love her as Christ loved the church.” Your husband allowing such boorish, personal confrontations is totally unacceptable. Please know you and your husband are in my prayers.
 
Just reread your op what exactly are you asking. It sounds like you want to be told that it’s a sign you can’t consummate your marriage and God chose you specially for some reason. If you really feel this way why won’t you talk to a priest? I might be wrong but pretty much all the saints I have read about had spiritual advisors.
I think your fear sounds perfectly normal by the way. You just don’t seem to be open to any of the kind suggestions.
 
Sorry one last thing. I used to work with a very conservative order of nuns at a home for the developmentally disabled and I remember Sister coming back from her “special” dr appointment.
 
How has no one commented on this?

So your husband is not only enabling you to neglect your health care, but he’s encouraging you to do so??? He has “reservations”? Really, what are those? Encouraging your spouse, who you have vowed to love, honor, protect, cherish, etc to NOT take care of themselves is abusive behavior, plain and simple.

You said that you’re 20, so I can assume that your husband is young too. You also say that you live with his parents. I think that it’s time for you both to grow up. NOW. You guys need to find an older couple to mentor you or find a marriage counselor or something. This is not a high school relationship, you are married now. And that means that you both have to start doing what’s best for yourselves, each other, and your marriage. You have to get help so that you can have sex. He has to be supportive of that. And you both need to do some serious thinking about whether or not as a married couple you should be living with parents. Unless you both do some growing up and fast your marriage will not work.
They’re 20. Living with his parents may well be their only option.

Ignorance is not abuse. I didn’t comment on her husband’s reservations about the possibility that she may have a physical problem because he isn’t the one stopping her. Unlike husbands who prevent their wives from getting medical care that the wives want, this is something they agree on. There are many people in this world who are wary of doctors and do not see avoiding them as a neglect of health care. Let’s face it: there have been times and places where health care had to be managed without a competent physician, because no competent physician could be found.

I don’t think that either one of them realize that getting professional help is not a violation of her modesty but rather entirely appropriate. They don’t seem to realize that this is highly unlikely to be something that’s all in her head. They don’t realize that the problem is hardly uncommon. They don’t seem to realize that the Church recognizes the necessity for both men and women to allow physicians to examine parts of the body that are normally kept private.

They don’t understand their problem, they seem to see it as a failure or as something that can be cured by willing it. They are undoubtedly embarrassed by it. Notice that his parents do not even know they’re having a problem! The OP has talked about this with no one other than her husband. They probably both hope to solve the issue without letting on that there is a problem.

There is not much to be gained by attacking them for their lack of understanding. I think we just need to convince the OP that her problem is unlikely to be solved without outside help, and that canon law states that this problem does need to be addressed.

According to the Church: no coitus, no marriage. By the nature of her problem, no outside help, almost certainly there will be no coitus. Ergo, no outside help, no marriage. With outside help, the chances of successful treatment are very good, but it does need to be help from a physician with the knowledge required to identify and treat the problem. That’s the message she needs to come to believe.
 
Just reread your op what exactly are you asking. It sounds like you want to be told that it’s a sign you can’t consummate your marriage and God chose you specially for some reason. If you really feel this way why won’t you talk to a priest? I might be wrong but pretty much all the saints I have read about had spiritual advisors.
I think your fear sounds perfectly normal by the way. You just don’t seem to be open to any of the kind suggestions.
A short-lived marriage with insufficient explanation of what went wrong is not the foundation upon which to build a life in a religious community. No one is going to blame her if she has a physical problem that can’t be helped, but a religious order will want her to have sorted this problem out, or at least to have made a good-faith effort to address it, before coming to them with the idea that not being able to consummate a marriage automatically makes you into nun material.
 
A short-lived marriage with insufficient explanation of what went wrong is not the foundation upon which to build a life in a religious community. No one is going to blame her if she has a physical problem that can’t be helped, but a religious order will want her to have sorted this problem out, or at least to have made a good-faith effort to address it, before coming to them with the idea that not being able to consummate a marriage automatically makes you into nun material.
The point of my post is that she does not want to listen to the reasonable answers she has been given. Like saying I have a problem with my vision but an eye doctor is out of the question. It SOUNDS to me like she is fishing for an answer along the lines that this is a sign from God not to have sexual relations.
She doesnt really ask any question in her OP.
 
The point of my post is that she does not want to listen to the reasonable answers she has been given. Like saying I have a problem with my vision but an eye doctor is out of the question. It SOUNDS to me like she is fishing for an answer along the lines that this is a sign from God not to have sexual relations.
She doesnt really ask any question in her OP.
I think she came here hoping that her problem had an answer that didn’t involve getting help from someone who could actually meet her in person. She’s very young, she and her husband are not only embarrassed by the situation, but probably very confused and frustrated. This is one of those things in marriage that you didn’t know you were signing on for, particularly if you marry when you’re still at a rather innocent age!

Give her some time to chew on all of this and sort it out. Getting help is a necessary step, but for her it is also a very big one. That doesn’t mean that she won’t do it.
 
Faithfully and Easter Joy have made some excellent points.

Child of God, if you want a little more anonymous help with things, lubricants can help. If you are embarassed to buy KY jelly or similar, get a jar of coconut oil. It has a pleasant smell, can be a moisturizer for skin and hair, is IMO more effective than specifically marketed lubricants, and is a natural option. Be generous with the application for intimate uses. Best of luck and love.
 
Faithfully and Easter Joy have made some excellent points.

Child of God, if you want a little more anonymous help with things, lubricants can help. If you are embarassed to buy KY jelly or similar, get a jar of coconut oil. It has a pleasant smell, can be a moisturizer for skin and hair, is IMO more effective than specifically marketed lubricants, and is a natural option. Be generous with the application for intimate uses. Best of luck and love.
Yes. Keep in mind that commercial lubricants are water-based so that they won’t harm condoms. If you are not using condoms, you have many more options.

Do try a bit of anything you want to use as a lubricant on a sensitive tissue other than the most sensitive ones before you try to use it on your genitals, and try a little on the genitals outside any activity before trying it with an activity. You don’t want to find out too late and the hard way that coconut oil doesn’t agree with your skin.

Also, OP, realize that if you are using NFP to avoid pregnancy because you have no financial means to provide for a child yet, you are also choosing the “driest” time of your cycle. If you are not using NFP at all and do plan to have a child right away, you might consider learning it, as it will help you identify the fertile time, which is also the time when your body (including your brain) is physically most receptive to intercourse. Even so, in your case it is appropriate for foreplay to be spread out over a very long time–I mean stealing away for some hugging and kissing and then waiting for a bit before going any further over the course of a whole day, a whole weekend, or even longer, if necessary-- because the lubrication that God put into your body even during infertile times typically requires far more relaxation and patience when you are anxious than when you are not.

If you need this in order to overcome your anxiety,* that is morally OK*. It is OK to interrupt your intention to engage in the marital act if pain or anxiety prevents you from continuing or if this is what your body needs in order to be receptive. Be very patient with yourselves. You need to train your body to believe that your husband will never hurt you. That may allow you to relax enough so that your body (your mind doesn’t do this directly!!) will allow intercouse to take place. Your husband needs to understand this, too, so he won’t give your body the wrong signals. Once that happens, you can’t change what your body will do by mere willpower coming from your mind.

You may also want to try visualization exercises, in which you see yourself having sex with your husband and you reflect on how pleased the Holy Spirit is when you give yourself totally to your husband and he gives himself to you. Visualize the *delight *of God, because this is how God desires to bring children into the world! IOW, don’t just tell yourself “I know this is a good thing” in an intellectual way, but let yourself feel the delight of God over his creation of sex. Read the Song of Songs, and reflect on how God expressed his own love in the image of the love of a man and a woman. If you practice feeling God’s delight in marriage and in sex between husband and wife, it may help you a great deal when the giving time comes.

These are things you and your husband could try by yourselves, but again: You’d do the best to get some professional help. At least promise each other that you will not force anything on your body. Every time you teach your body to fear that sex could hurt you or upset your husband with you, that is something you will have to “untrain” away later.
 
I found that it hurt the first couple of times, but then after that it was fine.
 
Hi Child-

Have you considered taking DH with you to your exam, that way you both know nothing hinky will happen, and you both can be more comfortable with the process?

I recommend seeing a midwife, as they have more time to spend with you. Also, when you make the appointment, be sure to tell the receptionist that this is your first appointment and that you are very nervous about the process. She can make sure that more time is allotted for your appointment so the provider you see isn’t rushed.

As for the act itself- foreplay is very important. Touching, kissing, snuggling- you need to be well aroused for proper penetration. There is nothing worse or more painful that penetration when not aroused. A good water-based lubricant can help, but if you and hubby don’t take time for you to become aroused, then sex will continuously be painful and not something you want to engage in.

I don’t know where you live, but One More Soul has a nice database of NFP-only medical providers.

onemoresoul.com/nfp-directory

BTW- if having a woman examine you bothers you, than see a male provider. Not all gynecologists are women. Personally, I prefer a female provider because she has the same parts and has a better understanding of what I am feeling/going through. However, I have a friend who hates seeing female gynecologists and prefers a male provider.
 
If you are on Facebook- come over to the NFP group and join the closed group, we will more than happy to answer any questions you have. Trust me, we have heard them all 😃

facebook.com/groups/NFPfans/
 
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