I'm out of this forum.

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To the pompous Estebob. You don’t know me so don’t start thinking I’ve left because I’m in denial of something. I know my sins- you don’t. They are between me and God and I’m working them out.
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Ive never been called pompous before! I much prefer arrogant/😃 .
 
Well, this is my last post. I think I should say one more thing before I refrain from this because it is an occasion of sin for me. I have sinned against you all, and I feel dumb saying that over the internet, but I have not been charitable so I’m sorry for that. I dunno, its just messed up and stuff. So many voices- I find myself relying on so many voices for guidence… I have a hard time discerning. And no, I’m not wise, or knowledgeable, or articulate, or intelligent. I’m just distraught and Hell-bound. The whole software question of mine was just one thing (and that question is deeper than everyone is making it, and I’ve tried to explain that…) It doesn’t matter though. I’m sorry again- we’re all Catholics here- though I’m not a good one. Thanks for all the advice. I will talk to my confessor. Peace out.
 
Well, this is my last post. I think I should say one more thing before I refrain from this because it is an occasion of sin for me. I have sinned against you all, and I feel dumb saying that over the internet, but I have not been charitable so I’m sorry for that. I dunno, its just messed up and stuff. So many voices- I find myself relying on so many voices for guidence… I have a hard time discerning. And no, I’m not wise, or knowledgeable, or articulate, or intelligent. I’m just distraught and Hell-bound. The whole software question of mine was just one thing (and that question is deeper than everyone is making it, and I’ve tried to explain that…) It doesn’t matter though. I’m sorry again- we’re all Catholics here- though I’m not a good one. Thanks for all the advice. I will talk to my confessor. Peace out.
If you ever are able to come back, this post shows that you may eventually be able to be an “internet apologist” and show the love of Christ to others here.

Don’t feel dumb for apologizing, not matter what the media:thumbsup:

May God bless your confessor with the wisdom to guide you to peace in your issues.

Maria
 
You could’ve been more charitable in the way ou said it, or not said it at all, but I agree if you immerse yourself in certain discussions they can reinforce scrupulous behavior. I mean one topic has a guy calling Nacho Libre the Jack Black movie irreverent and satanic, and he feels sorry for anyone who enjoys the film, I mean get a grip. This board has both helped me and hurt me, I don’t know I guess I don’t take it that seriously anymore, I know most people here myself included aren’t nearly as arrogant and opinionated as they come off.
Becareful what you say. Are we not to feel sorry for sinners?
 
Becareful what you say. Are we not to feel sorry for sinners?
LOL you’re the guy who said Nacho Libre was satanic and people who enjoy it are sinners and you feel sorry for them. I wasn’t calling you out, just using an example to the OP’s point about how this site can fuel scrupulous behavior Sorry man that’s WAY out there, Nacho Libre is pretty harmless, to condemn people for watching a stupid movie like that is way past the line of judgment that I want to go. I’ll leave it at that.

I feel sorry for sinners of course, but I wont go around condemning people for at worst venial sins, especially for Nacho Libre, because I am wretched sinner too. And I’ve done a lot worse things than laugh at Jack Black in tights in Nacho Libre.
 
Well, this is my last post. I think I should say one more thing before I refrain from this because it is an occasion of sin for me. I have sinned against you all, and I feel dumb saying that over the internet, but I have not been charitable so I’m sorry for that. I dunno, its just messed up and stuff. So many voices- I find myself relying on so many voices for guidence… I have a hard time discerning. And no, I’m not wise, or knowledgeable, or articulate, or intelligent. I’m just distraught and Hell-bound. The whole software question of mine was just one thing (and that question is deeper than everyone is making it, and I’ve tried to explain that…) It doesn’t matter though. I’m sorry again- we’re all Catholics here- though I’m not a good one. Thanks for all the advice. I will talk to my confessor. Peace out.
I think that in your case, instead of being overwhelmed by dry answers on your concerns with sins you should just stick to a confessor and a spiritual adviser for the time being.

These forums can push your buttons, and sometime it happens to me too. However, you will notice that when people ask for help in a very humble way they warm up the hearts of even the least charitable of us and they get strong support in dealing with their concerns. My own problem is that I find difficult being humble in my postings.

Just take a break, reflect on your needs, talk to a priest and come back. Your experience could help others.
 
You could’ve been more charitable in the way ou said it, or not said it at all, but I agree if you immerse yourself in certain discussions they can reinforce scrupulous behavior. I mean one topic has a guy calling Nacho Libre the Jack Black movie irreverent and satanic, and he feels sorry for anyone who enjoys the film, I mean get a grip. This board has both helped me and hurt me, I don’t know I guess I don’t take it that seriously anymore, I know most people here myself included aren’t nearly as arrogant and opinionated as they come off.
👍 I agree with your points especially that the board can both help and hurt. I couldn’t get over the “is fake sugar a sin” thread. As for Nacho Libre, haven’t seen it yet, but just the name alone makes me laugh.

And for the OP, I really do wish you the best in meeting flesh and blood Catholics who have as much passion for the faith as the people on this board do. I know that unfortunately in my life, most of the Catholics are either lukewarm or Cafeteria. This is the only place I’m in contact with people who actually know the faith. Sure some things make you roll your eyes or want to pull your hair out, but then there are also really inspiring moments too. Hope to see you back one day.
 
The whole point of having a moral theology forum is to discuss morality, and therefore it naturally follows that people will want to ask questions about what is and isn’t a sin. IMO, these questions should be taken seriously even if they seem silly right off the bat. Sometimes if you explore an issue to a greater depth, you discover things about it that you never realized before.
 
Most of the folks I’ve met here have been sincere, helpful, and as honest as you can get over the internet. I’m sure there are a few who are pulling our legs, maybe they don’t have anything better to do than yank our chains.

I for one, enjoy the company, the price (free) is certainly right for someone as cheap as I am. IF you really want a boost see the new prayer sub-forum, enter a prayer or ask for a prayer… anywhere where you have the opportunity to help someone or get prayful help from someone else can’t be all bad.

For the OP, may God bless you and help you find what you need or are looking for.
 
Well, this is my last post. I think I should say one more thing before I refrain from this because it is an occasion of sin for me. I have sinned against you all, and I feel dumb saying that over the internet, but I have not been charitable so I’m sorry for that. I dunno, its just messed up and stuff. So many voices- I find myself relying on so many voices for guidence… I have a hard time discerning. And no, I’m not wise, or knowledgeable, or articulate, or intelligent. I’m just distraught and Hell-bound. The whole software question of mine was just one thing (and that question is deeper than everyone is making it, and I’ve tried to explain that…) It doesn’t matter though. I’m sorry again- we’re all Catholics here- though I’m not a good one. Thanks for all the advice. I will talk to my confessor. Peace out.
Hey, apology accepted. We’ve all been there… said things we wished we hadn’t so don’t worry about it.

I wish you weren’t going, because I agree with the other poster… you could be the lone voice who is able to reach out to someone else in need. But if you feel you must go for your own peace of mind, I understand.

I wanted to say one thing though: please don’t be distraught thinking you are hell-bound. God loves you so very much and he is merciful and kind. Confess your sins to Him and try to do better - ask for his help & you’ll receive it. We are all a work in progress… none of us can cast stones. You are His child - don’t let Satan tell you otherwise… you have NO REASON to despair… the battle has been fought and Jesus Christ, your Savior won. Hang onto your faith and the promises found in it.

God Bless,
CM
(I thought your name was sort of original & much more interesting than “carol marie”)
 
Some of the responses that the OP received to his intro included one in which someone pointed out that:
sometimes you can get 25 people answering a question and 30 different opinions between them …
There are relatively few absolutes in life and diversity abounds - in most every aspect of life.

This forum is populated by the same people who make up the world - in their thinking, they span a continuum that has as its extremes conservatism and radicalism. There are those here who will condemn a lifestyle that does not fully meet their personal standards and those who will applaud any lifestyle, no matter how extreme by the standards of polite society. In between, are those who will closely and charitably examine facts and circumstances, and offer reasoned, moral, and theologically sound opinions without being judgemental.

If one asks a question, he opens himself to being answered by persons coming from the full spectrum of social, political, and theological thought. If anyone doesn’t want to hear that, then he shouldn’t ask questions in the first place. Having asked, one must sort the replies - and to do that honestly, one does not sort by what you like or don’t like, but by what seems right to you, what you know to be right in light of what you have been taught and the moral values which you have learned and developed.

Responses to this thread have included some that were reasoned and charitable - others that were snide and non-contributory - a few of the latter have disappeared. The expectation on these forums is for civil and charitable discourse; that does not require anyone to forfeit or compromise their standards, assuming that their standards meet those expectations. There is a message here for both the original poster and those responding - it is not apparent that everyone understands it; I suggest self-moderation for tone, tenor, and content before hitting the submit button.

This thread is now closed.

Joe Monahan
 
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