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My hubby suffered the same thing and he tried taking fiber tabs and they take two weeks for any results and he was miserable with even worse gas and bloating, finally he had a out patient surgery done where they stick a tube down your throat and look at the lining of your stomach and he has very bad “gerd” and the doctor told him the fiber was actually making it worse and he put my husband on a prescription called nexium and that took about two weeks to really work and now he is awesome… I would suggest making sure you know what it is, fiber does not work in one dose, it must be taken every single day and it will cause bloat, gas and loose stools for a couple weeks, it needs to be started out in very small doses and then you see how well you tolerate it and then you can add a little more as your body gets used to it, in my husbands case it made it worse because that was not the answer for his body at all.
Just something to remember:)
 
exiled said:
I call the specks of color that come from spinach and red peppers and such, “sprinkles”.
My older ones have caught on, but the younger ones say, “Yay!” and gobble up the food. Now the older ones know it’s veggies, but they also know it all tastes just fine and that their not going to barf if they eat it.
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Yeah, lots of food gets the hidden veggie treatment in my house. Meatloaf is great for carrots, and stew or soup, anything goes. I add dried milk to soups or sauces for extra calcium. My homemade bread is whole wheat, and usually has wheat germ and/or wheat bran added besides. Can’t ever add too much extra nutrition! 🙂
 
kamz, thanks for the heads up about GERD. We’ll definitely pay attention to that. He has never gotten heartburn that he has ever mentioned to me.

The fiber isn’t just for the gas. It’s mainly for constipation, actually. We admittedly have a very low fiber, high protein diet, and our family physician has already suggested fiber supplements for both of us. DH simply thinks its “disgusting” and “for old people” and refuses to take it. This is the same DH who won’t use lotion because it is for “girls and gays.” mature…

johntkd, I appreciate your concern but it is rather outrageous to compare a natural, doctor-recommended fiber supplement to drugging my husband with salt peter or sedatives. The primary difference is that my husband would like to get rid of his gas and constipation, but happens to be too immature to get over the brand name Metamucil, while the effects of a drug are desired by neither of us. I am open to criticism, but your comments are just over the top.
 
vluvski said:
kamz, thanks for the heads up about GERD. We’ll definitely pay attention to that. He has never gotten heartburn that he has ever mentioned to me.

The fiber isn’t just for the gas. It’s mainly for constipation, actually. We admittedly have a very low fiber, high protein diet, and our family physician has already suggested fiber supplements for both of us. DH simply thinks its “disgusting” and “for old people” and refuses to take it. This is the same DH who won’t use lotion because it is for “girls and gays.” mature…

johntkd, I appreciate your concern but it is rather outrageous to compare a natural, doctor-recommended fiber supplement to drugging my husband with salt peter or sedatives. The primary difference is that my husband would like to get rid of his gas and constipation, but happens to be too immature to get over the brand name Metamucil, while the effects of a drug are desired by neither of us. I am open to criticism, but your comments are just over the top.
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I myself take metamusil capsules and they are so easy to swallow and no taste at all:thumbsup:

Also, I’ve used generic stool softner, you need to take it every day to see results but it is also good and no side effects at all.
 
my hubby HATES onions or so he thinks… but I can add it finely chopped to hot dishes and he hasn’t the slightest idea:D
 
Oh for cryin’ our sideways!!! :mad: She didn’t give him cyanide, she didn’t try to kill the man or deceive him, she made him a snack - a HEALTHY snack! She would have done him a disservice if it had been a bag of potato chips!

Give it a rest people - she is doing what she’s supposed to do. Take care of her husband, ensure he is happy and healthy.

Sheesh. The things people will whack out of shape sometimes! :rolleyes:

Don’t worry, vluvski, I think it’s great that you were able to get a little bit of fiber into his diet in a smoothy! He may live a bit longer now with a healthier colon. And you with a happier nose. 😃

~Liza
 
johntkd said:
oh no its a lot different,and for me this would actually cause me major headaches for a while ( decaf) you didnt add something to the food/drink, you just bought a different type, this person added to it actually put a substance into a food or drink she was going to and did give to another human being.
maybe next week she will assume he needs to lose some weight and start putting crushed diet pills into his food.
or maybe he is not awake enough on the weekends to do all the honey do items she wants done so crush up some caffien pills and add them to his smoothie along with the other drugs she does
but of course these are all over the counter meds,drugs, and vitamins so they cant hurt anything right
and they will mold him into the person she wants not what he was or what she married so thats ok how dispicable
I really think i would rather have my spouse cheat on me than find out she was drugging me
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Wow, that’s ridiculous. She’s not married to you, not everyone feels as extreme about it as you do. I’m sure she knows her husband well enough to know if he’d be extremely offended by her doing it.

I read your response to my husband and he just laughed. He said “It’s fiber man -it makes ya poop, it’s not like she’s giving him something to make him impotent. She’s helping him relieve some pain that he’ll have if he doesn’t go soon. Get over it.”
I also asked him if the doctor recommended something he thought was gross and I put it in his food and he didn’t know, would he care. He said “As long as I don’t have to know about it, I don’t care.” So not everyone feels like you do. In fact I doubt many husbands would have such an extreme reaction. Geeze.:rolleyes:
 
johntkd said:
Like i have said if this was me the marriage would be over I would be seriously afraid she would drug/poison something if she got mad as she has proven already she dont mind filling your food with substances she deems fit.

John
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Got some trust issues John?

Anyhow, vluvski,
My husband has food (wheat) allergies that caused gastric problems. Is there any way you or your hubby would be able to have that checked out? Or try an elimination diet.
 
johntkd said:
also note we are not talking about a spice or dehydrated “veggies” we are talking a man made substance, that very probablly 3 to 5 years from now will be found to be causing cancer…

ok if thats the case why does she admit he had to leave the room then before she added it??? answer that and tell me i am just looking for a fight.

Like i have said if this was me the marriage would be over I would be seriously afraid she would drug/poison something if she got mad as she has proven already she dont mind filling your food with substances she deems fit.

I mean come on people she proud of herself for “being so sneaky” thats what its all about a feeling of being superior not being healthful minded…
then she also brags about it online so we all know she been “drugging” her hubby into something she feels she wants to have.
not what he is or was…

John
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**Uh can someone say paranoid? You have blown this way out of proportion. She loves her dh and is giving him a fiber supplement that their doctor recommended. I certainly wouldn’t care if my dh did the same for me. I think the being so sneaky was meant in a cute way not in a control freak way. In fact if I refused to do something that I needed to for health I would hope my dh would do everything and anything to see that I did. **

**I’ve put soy protein and wheat germ in my dh’s smoothies before to make them healthier without telling him because he’d be grossed out. Metamucil has been around for over 20 years -all of sudden it going to found to cause cancer? :rolleyes: It’s made from psyllium husk not steroids. **
**You response is so over the top. At least puzzieannie’s post while I don’t agree with her opinion is reasonable. You really sound paranoid. I mean charge your wife with a felony because she gave you fiber to help you with a health problem? What kind of craziness is that? I would never do anything to hurt my dh, or “mold” him into the husband I wanted and I’m sure vluvski feels the same. **
She’s trying to help him because he’s suffering and isn’t following what the dr. recommended. This is out of love not control or malice. She has to be “sneaky” because he can’t seem to get past the image of Metamucil being for “old people”.
Your reaction is actually quite scary. I mean you throw all these crazy things that she might do next making it sound like the next thing she’ll do is poison her husband in his sleep. This is her husband and she loves him. She’s not some psycho from America’s Most Wanted.
 
johntkd said:
oh no its a lot different,and for me this would actually cause me major headaches for a while ( decaf) you didnt add something to the food/drink, you just bought a different type, this person added to it actually put a substance into a food or drink she was going to and did give to another human being.
maybe next week she will assume he needs to lose some weight and start putting crushed diet pills into his food.
or maybe he is not awake enough on the weekends to do all the honey do items she wants done so crush up some caffien pills and add them to his smoothie along with the other drugs she does
but of course these are all over the counter meds,drugs, and vitamins so they cant hurt anything right
and they will mold him into the person she wants not what he was or what she married so thats ok how dispicable
I really think i would rather have my spouse cheat on me than find out she was drugging me
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Oh my Lord. Are you joking? First of all, as wives, I think we know what would cause our husband to have a headache and what would not. I think you are a little dramatic going from Fiber being added to a smoothie in order to improve the health of your beloved…to drugging him to keep him awake on the weekends to do the chores? I am so tempted…lol…just kidding!!! Really…it is not that big of a deal. It seems to me you might be dealing with your own personal issues that are a little worse then what is going on here.
 
Come on, people! Divorce over a fiber supplement?! Poisoning! It’s a pretty big leap from V. wanting to help out her husband and his digestion to poisoning and fearing for one’s life. Get serious. It’s not much different than my mom telling my dad that the cake we got for my 15th birthday was ice cream cake and not frozen yogurt, since he claimed to hate frozen yogurt. He liked the cake, by the way. :rolleyes:
 
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my hubby HATES onions or so he thinks… but I can add it finely chopped to hot dishes and he hasn’t the slightest idea:D
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Oh, wow, don’t try that here! Dh adds onions to my food and I’m outta here! D.I.V.O.R.C.E.

Just kidding, if you couldn’t tell. :rolleyes:
 
Good for you V! I’m glad that your husband is taking in more fiber as we Americans tend to consume far too little of it and it is such an important part of our diet. I don’t see anything wrong with what you’ve done, and can appreciate your lighthearted posting. It’s no different than making your husband a healthy dinner similar to what he usually likes but with more “health” (lower fat, higher fiber, whatever) provided you know his food tolerances and intolerances and would let him know if he had an adverse reaction. I’ve done that sort of thing many times.

The issue with bulletin boards like these and postings about marriages is that each of us has our own idea of a perfect marriage and what goes on in it (usually what we have is as close to “perfect” as we think a marriage can be.) I once posted something here in a fit of anger which I lived to regret and to wish I had never posted as it led to me having a lower opinion of myself and our marriage when my husband had no problems with it at all and for us it just “worked.” I say if your husband can accept it, and you’re doing it in his best interest, you deserve a thumbs up! 👍
 
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**Uh can someone say paranoid? You have blown this way out of proportion. She loves her dh and is giving him a fiber supplement that their doctor recommended. I certainly wouldn’t care if my dh did the same for me. I think the being so sneaky was meant in a cute way not in a control freak way. In fact if I refused to do something that I needed to for health I would hope my dh would do everything and anything to see that I did. **

**I’ve put soy protein and wheat germ in my dh’s smoothies before to make them healthier without telling him because he’d be grossed out. Metamucil has been around for over 20 years -all of sudden it going to found to cause cancer? :rolleyes: It’s made from psyllium husk not steroids. **

**You response is so over the top. At least puzzieannie’s post while I don’t agree with her opinion is reasonable. You really sound paranoid. I mean charge your wife with a felony because she gave you fiber to help you with a health problem? What kind of craziness is that? I would never do anything to hurt my dh, or “mold” him into the husband I wanted and I’m sure vluvski feels the same. **

She’s trying to help him because he’s suffering and isn’t following what the dr. recommended. This is out of love not control or malice. She has to be “sneaky” because he can’t seem to get past the image of Metamucil being for “old people”.

Your reaction is actually quite scary. I mean you throw all these crazy things that she might do next making it sound like the next thing she’ll do is poison her husband in his sleep. This is her husband and she loves him. She’s not some psycho from America’s Most Wanted.
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Ill admit my response shows some things that will probablly never happen but to put it in very very simple terms he said NO
fiber supplements,no means no just as it does with sex, drugs,torture, etc,
its funny how some people can make the word no into something other than a NO, had he said absolutly nothing about it then things would be different but he made it quite clear with that one key word, yet she took it upon herself to assume he really meant yes,

lets see, If he was a non Catholic and say his wife went in to have a baby had to have an emergency c section and was knocked out, the Dr asked him about tubes being tied because her next pregnancy could very well kill her and the baby,and he said yes even though he knows his wife would have said no then its ok by what you are saying cause he was looking out for her best interest even though it was totally against her will?
think about what you all are saying when you think this is so innocent…

and yes I do have some trust issues, and something such as this if i had given a direct NO would just enhance that, If you want to know why i have some trust issues I am willing to share in a private msg, But its legitimate for sure.and part of the reason is exactly something on this scale …

let me ask you all this when in your opinion does the word NO mean **NO **

I admit I am not a cradle Catholic and it seems I am the only one here that thinks this is not right and someone shouldnt do something to someone when they said No in the first place, is this Normal Catholic behavior to go behind someones back and “trick” them?
Or is it just the wives that are allowed to do this?
these are serious qurestions for me,not trying to be funny,

John
 
The difference between me going behind DH’s back and putting fiber supplements in his smoothie and him going behind my back to get my tubes tied while I am incapacitated is objective morality. It is at worst morally neutral to add fiber supplements to someone’s smoothie, assuming there are no known allergies or medical conditions. Consenting to having your wife’s tubes tied is always morally reprehensible- an objective evil, and a grave sin.

Fact is, when husband’s behave like children, sometimes it is necessary to treat them like children in order to keep them healthy. For example, coaxing a restless, punchy, over-tired child to bed by offering to read a book or sing a soothing song. If you asked or told the child to go to bed, he or she would say no. Similar with DH. He knows the fiber would be good for him and probably help his GI issues, but has an aversion to fiber supplements because “they’re for old people.” His NO is not directed at the idea of taking the fiber supplement, but at the thought of taking an old-people drug. Therefore, I administered the supplement in a way that was hip and cool instead of old-ladyish.
 
personally i think that the OP should be commended for finding a way for her dh to comply with the DR’s suggestion in a manner that he liked and seemed quite tastey. I have a medical condition that requires medications, which I do not like to take regardless of drs orders and the life threatening consequences. If my boyfriend didn’t make me do it, there are times where I would not take my meds. Some people need the extra push to do what’s best for their health and finding a way that her dh liked is an added bonus.
 
sasafr said:
personally i think that the OP should be commended for finding a way for her dh to comply with the DR’s suggestion in a manner that he liked and seemed quite tastey. I have a medical condition that requires medications, which I do not like to take regardless of drs orders and the life threatening consequences. If my boyfriend didn’t make me do it, there are times where I would not take my meds. Some people need the extra push to do what’s best for their health and finding a way that her dh liked is an added bonus.
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I understand what you and the OP are both saying,
On that note i am going to add something here about DRs
I have a close friend that works at a substance abuse facility,
from jan to feb they had 411 people walk through the doors wanting help breaking an addiction, 409 wer from Dr prescribed meds 2 were street drugs, that in itself is a scary thought.
I know when i went to have a simple knee surgery done I wewnt thru a hornedous amount of surgeons to find one thet didnt want to add morphine to the spinal, to the IV ( which i refused to have)
then a shot into the knee after surgery was done filled with morphine as well, then to top it all off wanted me to take oxycodone for pain after,
I finally found a dr whom would do surgery without a IV, or any drugs except the initial spinal.
anyways I have a lack of trust to Drs anyways but that is a very long drawn out story ( have had some really bad no rotten luck with anything medical.

anyways I guess we have to agree to disagree I think its very bad no matter what the intentions are to do something behind ones back esspecially after they said NO, he is an adult not a child,
as far as the tubal the whole reason I put in that he wasnt Catholic is because for most Non catholics its not a morality issue, and they look at us as “childish” to think the way we do, ( that term sound familiar?)

Oh well i see noone was able to answer when NO means NO
John
 
I applaud your motives and methods, especially since it doesn’t really sound like your husband has any real objection here, he’s just being a silly little man about the whole deal and knows that full well 😉 Though, I would agree about the ‘easy doses’ at first, just to let his body get used to the changes (and of course, always ask any and everyone to give you the entire rundown on their food allergies before you cook for them). Once it has though, he’ll likely feel so much better, and so will you (eww…I’d have been feeding him lentils and bran or nothin’ a long time ago). Once his body has made the adjustment, there are so many seriously delicious things he’s been missing out on, like hummus and Ethiopian food (mmm…lentils 😃 )

We kinda have the opposite problem here - my beloved has severe trouble with anemia - and doesn’t like the taste of meat! It was very hard to get past the system shock of eating meat at all, and the taste is still an issue, so we kinda hide it in stuff mostly. Fish goes over great though, so sushi and iron tablets pretty much get the job done. But iron tabs can make you pretty nauseous if you aren’t used to them, especially at the doses the poor thing had to take them (by prescription) for a long while. Everything ‘tasted like rust’ - gakk! Also, fresh spinach is awesome in all kinds of stuff, and definitely stirred into pasta sauce by the doublehandful! Whoever posted about that, way to get the family enjoying something so great! I should teach you my warm spinach salad recipe - EVERYone loves that, even if they think they won’t. Besides, it involves bacon. There aren’t many things most carnivores will pass up, if there’s even a hint there MIGHT be bacon in there somewhere. 😉

On the other hand I couldn’t handle chilis or other ‘hot’ spicing when we met. Hooboy, I learned fast (by necessity) and now I love em! Sambal oelek = great in almost anything, but it does take discipline and practice, whoo…Luckily we’re both good cooks too, and learn from each other all the time.

So yeah, I think a few people are coming down way too hard on you here. You made something both tasty and healthy, and that’s one of the most satisfying things anyone can do for the people they love, and I know you and your spouse are together on that part! Some people have some nutty ideas about trying new things, but most of the time they just want their hand held a little, and that’s a lot of what love’s about, after all. A votre sante!
 
johntkd said:
I understand what you and the OP are both saying,
On that note i am going to add something here about DRs
I have a close friend that works at a substance abuse facility,
from jan to feb they had 411 people walk through the doors wanting help breaking an addiction, 409 wer from Dr prescribed meds 2 were street drugs, that in itself is a scary thought.
I know when i went to have a simple knee surgery done I wewnt thru a hornedous amount of surgeons to find one thet didnt want to add morphine to the spinal, to the IV ( which i refused to have)
then a shot into the knee after surgery was done filled with morphine as well, then to top it all off wanted me to take oxycodone for pain after,
I finally found a dr whom would do surgery without a IV, or any drugs except the initial spinal.
anyways I have a lack of trust to Drs anyways but that is a very long drawn out story ( have had some really bad no rotten luck with anything medical.

anyways I guess we have to agree to disagree I think its very bad no matter what the intentions are to do something behind ones back esspecially after they said NO, he is an adult not a child,
as far as the tubal the whole reason I put in that he wasnt Catholic is because for most Non catholics its not a morality issue, and they look at us as “childish” to think the way we do, ( that term sound familiar?)

Oh well i see noone was able to answer when NO means NO
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John - get over yourself! We’re talking fibre here not horse tranquillisers. Her husband SAID he wanted to get rid of his digestion problems, but wasn’t prepared to actually do what was necessary to make it happen. So she in a sense did go against his express will, yes. If both of them know it’s what’s best for him then why not?

Tell me what you’d do if you had a child (or a university student wife for that matter) who said she didn’t want to fail school but was unreasonably refusing to do the studying she needed to pass? If you truly had her good at heart, you’d not just sit around and say ‘oh well, she said she didn’t want to do her study and no means no’ - you’d darn well MAKE her do it!

Some things are too important to ignore in a loved one. To ignore them actually is contrary to a loving attitude. Education is one. Health is another.
 
johntkd said:
I understand what you and the OP are both saying,
On that note i am going to add something here about DRs
I have a close friend that works at a substance abuse facility,
from jan to feb they had 411 people walk through the doors wanting help breaking an addiction, 409 wer from Dr prescribed meds 2 were street drugs, that in itself is a scary thought.
I know when i went to have a simple knee surgery done I wewnt thru a hornedous amount of surgeons to find one thet didnt want to add morphine to the spinal, to the IV ( which i refused to have)
then a shot into the knee after surgery was done filled with morphine as well, then to top it all off wanted me to take oxycodone for pain after,
I finally found a dr whom would do surgery without a IV, or any drugs except the initial spinal.
anyways I have a lack of trust to Drs anyways but that is a very long drawn out story ( have had some really bad no rotten luck with anything medical.

anyways I guess we have to agree to disagree I think its very bad no matter what the intentions are to do something behind ones back esspecially after they said NO, he is an adult not a child,
as far as the tubal the whole reason I put in that he wasnt Catholic is because for most Non catholics its not a morality issue, and they look at us as “childish” to think the way we do, ( that term sound familiar?)

Oh well i see noone was able to answer when NO means NO
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gee whizzzz…It is not like she is buying crack rock off of the street and poppin it in a smoothie. Drugs are one thing, naturally occuring fiber is another. Get a grip…you really have some trust issues. The man NEEDS fiber as per a DOCTOR. He is now getting fiber. I think all the wives are breathing a big sigh of relief that our hubbys are not you!!!:tsktsk: :banghead:

…oh and "no means no" really does not apply in this situation…come on relly…geesh:confused:
 
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