I'm so sneaky

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you are very correct about the name publishing by the priest, and it did get me relentless Junk mail for about a month.seems every Kirby salesman had that bulletin.lol
but thats not the issue here lol
Its about having food tampered with , and directly with something a person has already said a positive NO to. thats the point here he said NO she went against his wishes and did it anyways, I actually talked to several people today including my parents and mentioned this particular issue, you all had me thinking i was a little out there, not one of about 20 people I mentioned this to would even dream of doing just this, they agree its total deception and disrespect, and that I am not nuts
I think the nuts part came from you’d divorce your wife if she put a fiber supplement in your food and be afriad the next thing she might do is poison you. You may want to ask your parents/friends if that would be their reaction. That and all those extreme scenarios you threw out there.

I realize you past thread is not the issue here. Just trying to point out your were not a troll -just someone who has reactions that can be pretty extreme sometimes.
 
For the record, I did eventually tell my husband that I put the fiber supplements in the smoothie. He groaned then shrugged, but there was no dramatic threat of divorce, no suggestion that he can no longer trust me. He married me knowing full well that I am a tease, a prankster, and especially a sneaky cook. I try to get away with as much as I can, and often make a game out of it, having him guess the secret ingredient.

The whole idea was an experiment. I wanted to find an avenue for the fiber that would be agreeable to him, and apparently it worked. He asked for a smoothie, and taking advantage of the opportunity, I fixed it as I saw fit. As the chief preparer of food in our household, it is always my prerogative to fix meals and snacks as I please. Ever heard of the placebo effect? It works with food, too, and sometimes not for positive results.

They were not brand name Metamucil by the way, but the generic equivalent with orange flavor. He even commented that liked the orange flavor in the smoothie and wanted more orange in it. I told him I could add a lot more orange next time.👍
He knew you were a “sneaky cook”?

well that definatly changes things to a better point,
not using the name he was against adds to that.

The gal that added to our spaghetti and my coffee is known for adding to her cooking as well but she ALWAYS tells me before I even take a bite if its something I might be against,or havnt had before. I may sound like an a** but I usually am willing to try most anything twice,as long as I am aware of it, I admit I do sometimes say I dont even want to know,till after I try it
( if it looks like barf or something)
 
I think the nuts part came from you’d divorce your wife if she put a fiber supplement in your food and be afriad the next thing she might do is poison you. You may want to ask your parents/friends if that would be their reaction. That and all those extreme scenarios you threw out there.

I realize you past thread is not the issue here. Just trying to point out your were not a troll -just someone who has reactions that can be pretty extreme sometimes.
Ok thanks for not thinking i am a troll.👍

I am ugly but not that bad ( at least the pic she put up dont quite resemble me)…

actually 6 of the men i mentioned this too would have ended the marriage and 7 of the wives would be out of there, with 3 others being unsure, the rest of the men said they would be extremly POed but would prolly get over it. and my mom and dad would have both tossed each other out and they been married 51 years

yes I admit i have a lot of trust issues, in this day and age you almost have to,
Its a issue i work on, but seems everytime i start to trust someone they mess me over in some way either rip me off or lie to me…on that note I am a very trusting person in many other ways, Its just hard for me to have “total trust” in a human.
Like i said there is one human on this earth that I have trust (total) in and she knows whom she is…the same gal who adds fiber to my coffee and spaghetti, But also tells me before I try it…

Drs I dont trust as far as I can spit or throw them and never ever will
 
I find it hard to believe people would get divorced over fiber in a smoothie… It doesn’t say much for their commitment to marriage. What ever happen to “in good times and in bad” . I can think of much much worse things to happen to a marriage than this.
 
deception is deception. It’s not morally neutral.

I’m amazed at the number of people justifying deception.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

You are expecting a good result, from something that begins with a lie.
By the way, my 2 year old helps me make the smoothies. He sees everything that goes into it. Where’s the deception in that? Just because he doesn’t understand that its good for him, doesn’t mean I’m being deceptive.

As far as a trust issue is concerned, my wife “sneaks” things into food all the time and tells me later. Do I get angry and feel deceived? On the contrary - I know she is acting in my best interest healthwise and she is simply doing so creatively. I love and trust her more now than I ever have.

I’m not going to get scrupulous about a few “sneaks” that are for my betterment.

CSJ
 
I find it hard to believe people would get divorced over fiber in a smoothie… It doesn’t say much for their commitment to marriage. What ever happen to “in good times and in bad” . I can think of much much worse things to happen to a marriage than this.
you are so missing the point its not about the fiber, you are merely seeing the surface.
Its about the fact HE said NO to that fiber, so she spiked his foods with it, why is it so hard to grasp that fact has nothing to do with what went in, could have been a piece of trash or a bar of gold, it dont matter the fact of the matter remains

He said he didnt want the fiber, and wouldnt take it, she took it upon herself because she felt he should have it to “sneak” it into his food, which took away his free choice of what goes into his body.
so basically in that marriage he is not allowed to have an opinion or a choice its what she deems.

**thats the point **has nothing to do about fiber, has everything to do with HIS right as a HUMAN ADULT to deny something.if a person cannot HONOR such a simple request what will things be like down the road when it involves something much more important,

I will use a couple of EXTREME examples

I carry a DNR ( do not resusitate) I do not want to be plugged into a machine to keep me alive,in a car accident it would be easy for a spouse possibly unhurt to “lose” the card,paper etc and force you to be on a machine possibly for decades, wouldnt you rather have someone with you that will honor your wishes.
or do you want someone whom cannot be trusted to allow your wishes…

John

P.S. I can think of many reasons a marriage ends, attend the pre marriage weekends that the church makes you take before marriage after spending several hours talking about how to put the toilet paper on the roller properly because that is one of the major causes of divorce ( they think). tell me this isnt an issue.
 
Your concern for your husband’s health is admirable, but please don’t sneak anything into his food or drinks. Even if it’s something like fiber, it’s just not a good idea to slip things into another person’s food. I’ve had things slipped into my food before (not by my husband though), and not only was it dangerous, it made me sick. I don’t know if there are any medications out there that conflict with fiber supliments, but slipping anything isn’t a good idea. If it hurts him, makes him sick, or worse, you could be in big trouble. Secondly, although you’re doing it out of concern for your husband’s health, it’s very inappropriate for you to do this. As I said, I’ve had bad experiences with people doing this to me, and I didn’t appreciate it one bit. It’s just not a nice thing to do, although (as I mentioned before) your concern for your husband’s health is admirable. Also, if he said no, then you 200% have no right at all to spike his food with something he doesn’t want. I would be thoroughly livid if my husband did that to me. I would actually have no choice but to tell my doctor and have her record the incident. What you’re doing is a very dangerous and disrespectful thing. Please don’t do this to your spouse. And you should tell him what you’ve been doing.
 
you are so missing the point its not about the fiber, you are merely seeing the surface.
Its about the fact HE said NO to that fiber, so she spiked his foods with it, why is it so hard to grasp that fact has nothing to do with what went in, could have been a piece of trash or a bar of gold, it dont matter the fact of the matter remains

He said he didnt want the fiber, and wouldnt take it, she took it upon herself because she felt he should have it to “sneak” it into his food, which took away his free choice of what goes into his body.
so basically in that marriage he is not allowed to have an opinion or a choice its what she deems.

**thats the point **has nothing to do about fiber, has everything to do with HIS right as a HUMAN ADULT to deny something.if a person cannot HONOR such a simple request what will things be like down the road when it involves something much more important,

I will use a couple of EXTREME examples

I carry a DNR ( do not resusitate) I do not want to be plugged into a machine to keep me alive,in a car accident it would be easy for a spouse possibly unhurt to “lose” the card,paper etc and force you to be on a machine possibly for decades, wouldnt you rather have someone with you that will honor your wishes.
or do you want someone whom cannot be trusted to allow your wishes…

John

P.S. I can think of many reasons a marriage ends, attend the pre marriage weekends that the church makes you take before marriage after spending several hours talking about how to put the toilet paper on the roller properly because that is one of the major causes of divorce ( they think). tell me this isnt an issue.
Actually he said no metamucil… not no to fiber. She didn’t give him metamucil. She gave him a smoothie which had fiber in it. The objection to metamucil had nothing to do with it’s content(fiber and sugar) but everything to do with it being an ‘old persons drug’ it’s reputation as such would be in the name of th eproduct and how it is advertized. He objected to products marketed to old persons… not to all fiber. My point is that she didn’t dishonor his wishes in the first place… He wanted to be rid of constipation, He didn’t want to take metamucil. So she gave him a fiber smoothie, not metamucil. She didn’t give him something he said no to she didn’t give him poision, she didn’t hide his DNR or even plot his murder. She gave him fiber in a smoothie.
 
I will use a couple of EXTREME examples
Yes, and you’ve used several previously that you then refused to discuss further when their factuality and relevance was questions. Once again, your examples are required recasting the particulars of the OPs situation to a degree that your example was obviously not relevant to the events described. Your pattern of repeatedly tossing out and then immediately abandoning only tenuously relevant but outrageously extreme examples is standard trolling behavior and was what brought forth my accusation previously, that you’ve reverted to it yet again isn’t doing much at all for your credibility.

Can you give us a good reason why you’ve repeatedly refused to answer the direct question as to whether you are claiming that his “no” to taking a fiber supplement should be extended to mean he should never again be offered a dish that contains an ingredient high in soluble fiber as a relatively normal ingredient without being notified in advance? (Your actual answer would be nice too, but I’m thinking you’ve refused to answer because you know you are projecting your own hang-ups on this situation)

Can you also give us a good reason why you keep using the word “spiked” regarding the inclusion of a food grade ingredient in a "dish’ where including that ingredient is not unusual. E.g. if someone adds coconut to a cookie recipe, do you say they have “spiked” their cookies with coconut? How about cream in the potatoes used to make shepherd pie, is that “spiking” the dish with a dairy product?
 
I’d say it’s pretty common cookery parlance though too, in the ‘hm…I can’t make it out, but what is that taste/effect?’ sense. ‘Spiking’ with coconut for a subtly smoother, sweeter taste has a somewhat different sound to me than ‘spiking’ with an entire category like dairy products – that one does sound like you’re trying to provoke a possibly unhealthy reaction! Of course, that’s probably just me opining about cream in shepherd’s pie. Yuk. Anyway, the term in cookery probably comes from the practice of using alcohol-based flavorings to enhance all kinds of things, like using vanilla extract in chocolate chip cookies (and if you’re out, a shot of bourbon works great too 😉 ); the actual alcohol cooks out, entirely or mostly, depending on what you’re making, but it reacts with other ingredients as it burns off in ways that make unique and interesting tastes (caramelizing various sugars, producing new esters and so forth).

One more time – naturally, alwaysalwaysalways find out about food allergies, religious prohibitions, and so forth before cooking for people, but the OP knew the victim just fine.😛 To me, it sounds like her husband was trying to ‘ask without asking’ for exactly what she made for him, and he liked what he got. If you never want any surprises whatsoever in your food, cook for yourself! Otherwise, relax and enjoy. 🙂
 
‘Spiking’ with coconut for a subtly smoother, sweeter taste has a somewhat different sound to me than ‘spiking’ with an entire category like dairy products – that one does sound like you’re trying to provoke a possibly unhealthy reaction!
Considering he has been using the term to categorize adding food grade fiber in a smoothie as functionally equivalent to adding true drugs, poisons, and other non-food items, I was actually questioning how/why he was categorizing it within that same connotation. He has been specifically excluding / ignoring that fiber sources are among the legitimate ingredients to include in preparing a smoothie, so it is clear he was not using it in the cooking sense (which I honestly hadn’t heard of before in a “positive” sense, but I did see references along the lines you described when I went and looked to get a better grip on the usage of the word).
Of course, that’s probably just me opining about cream in shepherd’s pie. Yuk.
That may have been a poor example because of regional quirks, then again that the recipe varies without those used to one style knowing to alert others that their’s is different underlines that people normally do not pre-declare all the ingredients of a food when it is prepared according to what the understand to be a reasonable ingredient. (In these parts it is frequently made with mashed potatoes, into which cream is often added during the mashing for better consistency.)
but the OP knew the victim just fine.😛 To me, it sounds like her husband was trying to ‘ask without asking’ for exactly what she made for him, and he liked what he got. If you never want any surprises whatsoever in your food, cook for yourself! Otherwise, relax and enjoy. 🙂
Which is probably more the point that I think others have been making. For someone with a known paranoia about changes to what is expected and always having to be informed of and give advance approval of every detail that may impact them it would be inappropriate to try to circumvent their “safety” controls without grave reason. However, someone living in that extreme needs to realize it is not a betrayal of trust in the relationships of other parties for them to not follow the same regimen between themselves, and that essentially condemning others for not following his own chosen controls is unreasonable, especially when unwilling to consider significant details of the situation.
 
Of course, that’s probably just me opining about cream in shepherd’s pie. Yuk.
He said cream in the potatoes in Shepherd’s Pie. Mashed potatoes are normally made with milk or cream. So, if you’ve ever had Spepherd’s Pie, chances are it’s contained milk or cream.
 
Oh, I like cream and/or butter in regular mashies just fine. But the way I learned to make shepherd’s pie (both with meat and vegan), the mash remains plain, with a little salt and pepper, maybe even garlic, then baked with probably a little more crust to it than many styles. Butter or cream could burn too easily during the baking, but a pat of butter on top for the non-vegan-dairy’s-okay people works excellently. So yeah, of course it’s regional/personal style. I would probably love you guys’ versions too, it just sounded odd for a sec, especially since I misread it more like ‘cream in the filling’. :o
 
Yes, and you’ve used several previously that you then refused to discuss further when their factuality and relevance was questions. Once again, your examples are required recasting the particulars of the OPs situation to a degree that your example was obviously not relevant to the events described. Your pattern of repeatedly tossing out and then immediately abandoning only tenuously relevant but outrageously extreme examples is standard trolling behavior and was what brought forth my accusation previously, that you’ve reverted to it yet again isn’t doing much at all for your credibility.

Can you give us a good reason why you’ve repeatedly refused to answer the direct question as to whether you are claiming that his “no” to taking a fiber supplement should be extended to mean he should never again be offered a dish that contains an ingredient high in soluble fiber as a relatively normal ingredient without being notified in advance? (Your actual answer would be nice too, but I’m thinking you’ve refused to answer because you know you are projecting your own hang-ups on this situation)

Can you also give us a good reason why you keep using the word “spiked” regarding the inclusion of a food grade ingredient in a "dish’ where including that ingredient is not unusual. E.g. if someone adds coconut to a cookie recipe, do you say they have “spiked” their cookies with coconut? How about cream in the potatoes used to make shepherd pie, is that “spiking” the dish with a dairy product?
i WILL PUT THIS IN BOLD BEING AS i HAVE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION YOU JUST CHOOSE TO NOT READ THE ENTIRE POST… i CANT IMAGINE WHY YOU ARE SO STUCK ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT UNDERSTAND THIS IF YOU CAN , NOONE HAS THE RIGHT TO SPIKE ANYONES FOOD, OR DRINK WITHOUT CONSENT,IF SHE IS GIVING HIM OATMEAL COOKIES AND THEY HAVE NO ADDED SUPPLEMENTS THEN THATS FINE HE KNOWS WHAT TO EXPECT, IF SHE ADDS HER “SECRET INGREDIENTS” THEN NO SHE HAS NO RIGHT WITHOUT TELLING HIM… CAN YOU READ THIS NOW???

Now can you give me a good reason why you didnt read any of my entire posts??? and then chose to try and run me down without doing just that reading…msg #92 on page 7 answered your question and now i have answered it yet again, you still have not answered mine when does the word NO mean NO to you???


** last I knew that word didnt have a yes meaning in the dictionary **

the word “spiked” comes from the fact she herself admits to being sneaky about it, she dont normally add that to a smoothie, this was the first time for her so its "spiked"

 
i WILL PUT THIS IN BOLD BEING AS i HAVE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION YOU JUST CHOOSE TO NOT READ THE ENTIRE POST… i CANT IMAGINE WHY YOU ARE SO STUCK ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT UNDERSTAND THIS IF YOU CAN , NOONE HAS THE RIGHT TO SPIKE ANYONES FOOD, OR DRINK WITHOUT CONSENT,IF SHE IS GIVING HIM OATMEAL COOKIES AND THEY HAVE NO ADDED SUPPLEMENTS THEN THATS FINE HE KNOWS WHAT TO EXPECT, IF SHE ADDS HER “SECRET INGREDIENTS” THEN NO SHE HAS NO RIGHT WITHOUT TELLING HIM… CAN YOU READ THIS NOW???

Now can you give me a good reason why you didnt read any of my entire posts??? and then chose to try and run me down without doing just that reading…msg #92 on page 7 answered your question and now i have answered it yet again, you still have not answered mine when does the word NO mean NO to you???


** last I knew that word didnt have a yes meaning in the dictionary **

the word “spiked” comes from the fact she herself admits to being sneaky about it, she dont normally add that to a smoothie, this was the first time for her so its "spiked"

Sheesh, relax.

I still remember insisting how I didn’t like elk meat one night at my aunt and unlce’s house. We were having lasagna for dinner. My aunt asked me how I liked it, and I said it was delicious. Then she informed me it was made from elk meat. She served it to me knowing that I claimed to not like it. That really wasn’t wrong of her, in my opinion. In fact, she broadened my horizons, so I aprreciate her being sneaky.

Sometimes you have to realize you don’t get to be in control of everything all the time. Think about how many women there are with trasured family recipes that feature a “secret” ingredient. They are not obligated to reveal their secret to you, and it is your loss if you are such a control freak that you choose to miss out on some of these creations, which are almost always made with love. The smoothie the OP made for her husband was certainly made with love.
 
the word “spiked” comes from the fact she herself admits to being sneaky about it, she dont normally add that to a smoothie, this was the first time for her so its "spiked"

Being sneaky is being sneaky - ‘spiked’ is different. ‘Spiked’ means adding an actual drug or poison of the legal or illegal variety (alcohol, narcotics, aspirin, cyanide or such). If you’re going to use words, learn their proper meanings.

Psyllium husks are not a drug at all, and certainly not poisonous. Go to a healthfood store or even a supermarket, look a packet of psyllium husk in the eye and tell me it’s a drug! It’s bran - like you have in your bran cereal or your wholemeal bread. Only not from wheat, oats or rice, which are the most common sources, but from a different plant. So her adding it, whatever else it may have been, was not ‘spiking’.

Psyllium is a completely natural and harmless food product, unless you have some very rare disease of the intestine, not a drug in any way, very commonly added to different foods, you’ve almost certainly eaten it yourself without knowing it in different breads, cakes or breakfast cereals.

As has been said by a previous poster - every time you eat anything prepared by another person you’re almost certainly getting ingredients you don’t know about, and likely getting stuff you’d claim not to like if you DID know, so the only way to avoid it is to only cook for yourself.

Your loss if you’re so mistrustful of anyone that you do.
 
Sheesh, relax.

I still remember insisting how I didn’t like elk meat one night at my aunt and unlce’s house. We were having lasagna for dinner. My aunt asked me how I liked it, and I said it was delicious. Then she informed me it was made from elk meat. She served it to me knowing that I claimed to not like it. That really wasn’t wrong of her, in my opinion. In fact, she broadened my horizons, so I aprreciate her being sneaky.

Sometimes you have to realize you don’t get to be in control of everything all the time. Think about how many women there are with trasured family recipes that feature a “secret” ingredient. They are not obligated to reveal their secret to you, and it is your loss if you are such a control freak that you choose to miss out on some of these creations, which are almost always made with love. The smoothie the OP made for her husband was certainly made with love.
I understand all that about secret family recipes But the man said a direct No to the fiber she did it anyways, thats not love that is trying to be the controller
 
I understand all that about secret family recipes But the man said a direct No to the fiber she did it anyways, thats not love that is trying to be the controller
…and I said I didn’t want elk.
 
Being sneaky is being sneaky - ‘spiked’ is different. ‘Spiked’ means adding an actual drug or poison of the legal or illegal variety (alcohol, narcotics, aspirin, cyanide or such).

Psyllium husks are not a drug at all, and certainly not poisonous. Go to a healthfood store or even a supermarket, look a packet of psyllium husk in the eye and tell me it’s a drug! It’s bran - like you have in your bran cereal or your wholemeal bread. Only not from wheat, oats or rice, which are the most common sources, but from a different plant.

Completely natural and harmless food product, unless you have some very rare disease of the intestine, not a drug in any way, very commonly added to different foods, you’ve almost certainly eaten it yourself without knowing it in different breads, cakes or breakfast cereals.
ahh but you see this is where this whole things takes a turn, because the man said NO to it originally it becomes “spiked”
because she knew he didnt want it yet plotted the whole thing out to the point she scrambbled when he left the room to add it,
if it was so harmless the way she did it and with so much love why not add it in front of him,

because SHE SPIKED it
 
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