I'm soooo angry!!

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YinYangMom:
No, it doesn’t work for everyone, but it works for the majority, and at least you gave it a good shot - so you know it doesn’t work for you.

But to go on in misery without even exploring treatment and options because “I don’t have time nor money” is not fair to oneself.

There are four in our house. I’m the only one without ADD. At the office there’s one professor with ADHD. It is something one can live with, but it just requires really getting to know oneself, they nature of the symptoms, learning new behaviors to help keep one on track, if not focused. Meds are easier, but not necessary. The key is to find a compatible profession.

As for offering it up as a means to alleviate the symptoms, that’s not the point of offering it up. It doesn’t fix things or take away the pain or suffering here and now, just as Christ still had to feel every blow against him, every piercing on his head, hands, feet and side. What it does is place a value on the pain and suffering. Christ’s pain and suffering purchased salvation for us. Your pain and suffering can reduce the temporal affects of sin on the souls in purgatory or even your own (I’m not certain of that last part but I think I heard that somewhere - along the lines of indulgences).
Yeah, well, I am NOT working right now when I’m in college, if I did, it would be ten times worse. I would either fail in college or would get fired at work. So which one are you going to take? I took college because I have one more semester to go hopefully after this Fall 2005. However, my parents are totally aware of my situation and I have been blessed by having them support me. I have a very limited budget right now.

I’m not going to waste my money or my parents money on something that’s not going to work and that’s final!

I have been on meds for the last ten years and they don’t seem to help, I’m just the same person as before. I swear, I have a brain of a dinosaur for crying out loud, that’s what it feels like!

For THOSE of you who DON’T have a learning disability or a defect mentally, you are BLESSED! IF I had to choose, I’d rather be physically handicapped then mentally handicapped if some of you know what I mean. Thank God the day I’ll die!

Of course YinYangMom, you have no clue what it’s like. You don’t want to know what it’s like either! :o

Perhaps when I start taking the Eucharist, perhaps it will at least help me to deal with this better.
 
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Arlene:
Paris,
I haven’t had a chance to read the whole thread, but I just wanted to mention from a practical standpoint…

You are a college student with diagnosed learning disabilities. You should be able to get help on campus. My friend’s college daughter gets paid to take notes in her class which are then transcribed into braille. Maybe there are textbooks on audio or study guides, or tutoring that could help you. Look into your student services and see what they can do for/with you. Maybe they can help you with ways to study that will work better considering your needs.

You say this was diagnosed 10 years ago. You would have been in grade school. Did you receive any speech or occupational therapy? It seems like you may have fallen through cracks in the system, which would really suck. I wonder if there are any services available through your school.

There are medications, even homeopathics that help with focus and attention. My daughter has ADHD and takes a pharmaceutical grade fish oil. We learned that my daughter learns best kinesthetically. So she writes what she needs to remember. She makes flash cards for herself and the act of writing helps her remember.

Maybe not feeling like you are struggling so much with learning will help to ease the anger a bit.

I too struggle with anger. I take it to God. Once you are Catholic you will have the Sacraments to help you.

Good luck.
You ARE NOT DUMB. You learn differently.
To answer your question "what does the CC teach about being dumb?
It teaches that every life is valuable to God. God loves you exactly how you are. He made you, and he does not make mistakes.

Blessings,

Arlene
Yes, I do go to a community college (a four year college is NOT for an ADDic (lol!)!! I have been given accomadations everything from books on tape - doesn’t work- , someone else is taking notes for me, etc. but not matter what, I still can’t comprehend darn it!
😛

I am a visual learner (not to mention that I am an excellent illustrator) so yes, drawing pictures helps me too a little but I still can’t get the main idea like all the smart ones out there!

I swear, the only thing that is going to help me calm down is going by a calm lake at sunset and meditate but there is nothing close to where I live!
 
Paris Blues:
Yeah, well, I am NOT working right now when I’m in college, if I did, it would be ten times worse. I would either fail in college or would get fired at work. So which one are you going to take? I took college because I have one more semester to go hopefully after this Fall 2005. However, my parents are totally aware of my situation and I have been blessed by having them support me. I have a very limited budget right now.
Well that is information that wasn’t present before. That’s great that you are in college and that your family supports you and that you are utilizing the services available to you through the school.

Congratulations on being one semester away from graduating, too. That’s a great accomplishment!
I’m not going to waste my money or my parents money on something that’s not going to work and that’s final!

I have been on meds for the last ten years and they don’t seem to help, I’m just the same person as before. I swear, I have a brain of a dinosaur for crying out loud, that’s what it feels like!
Another piece of the puzzle which wasn’t present earlier. So you have been under doctor’s care, you have tried various medications, and none are working on your focusing abilities.

The medications for your attention deficit should have had some affect, but not on your ability to comprehend - that’s part of your learning disability and something you live with forever. You learn to modify behaviors which are geared toward your disability so that you can progress, and that does seem to be working for you because you only have another semester of community collge. Look at what you’ve accomplished already.

But I’m not a physician, and you have your parents support, so I take your word that there is no medical solution to your problem and understand why you aren’t going down that path anymore.

Brain of a dinosaur or not - you have a functioning brain. God gave it to you and you are blessed with a talent for illustration. Do not minimize this gift…creativity, insight, perspective - and the ability to convey that to others through pen and paper is something I’d love to have…but I don’t.

You have a condition which you are convinced will not improve and will not go away. So why do you want to be like everyone else? Why are you trying to be like everyone else? You are unique. You are special. You are God’s own creation. Embrace what God gave you, use it for His good however He guides you to do so, and be happy with who you are - limitations and all.

Heck, even us ‘normal’ people aren’t equal with each other. I’d love to be able to comprehend things on a deeper level and I don’t have a disability to curse for my not being able to. I just can’t, because that’s not the gift God granted to me. But that’s OK. I do have other talents that I know other people don’t have so I focus on developing those and they bring me peace and happiness. I hope you can find your special talents and come to celebrate them.
For THOSE of you who DON’T have a learning disability or a defect mentally, you are BLESSED! IF I had to choose, I’d rather be physically handicapped then mentally handicapped if some of you know what I mean. Thank God the day I’ll die!
You know what? I’m not disabled, mentally or physically, but I too live each day thanking God for the day I’ll die. But it’s not because I’m miserable or feel worthless. It’s because heaven is much more appealing to me. This life is hard. An aging body is a pain. Not being able to help my children with their emotional problems is agony. Having to struggle with money matters, job security, medical expenses is tedious and scary. I wanna go where the grass is green all the time, the air is clear, the temperatures perfect, the love of God is all around me.
Of course YinYangMom, you have no clue what it’s like. You don’t want to know what it’s like either! :o
I have a clue. I don’t know entirely. But I have a clue because I have a husband with ADHD, both kids have ADD, and my son had a frightening bought of depression. I have a father and siblings with diabetes. I had a nephew who was born with a layer of his brain missing. He couldn’t talk, he couldn’t sit up on his own or walk. He had a wonderful smile and laugh and a gorgeous head of hair. He died at age 9.
Perhaps when I start taking the Eucharist, perhaps it will at least help me to deal with this better.
I believe it will. I’m so thrilled about your upcoming confirmation! Have you sat before the Eucharist at Adoration? You may find it more comforting than that sunset you long for. It has helped me a lot.
 
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YinYangMom:
The medications for your attention deficit should have had some affect, but not on your ability to comprehend - that’s part of your learning disability and something you live with forever. You learn to modify behaviors which are geared toward your disability so that you can progress, and that does seem to be working for you because you only have another semester of community collge. Look at what you’ve accomplished already.

But I’m not a physician, and you have your parents support, so I take your word that there is no medical solution to your problem and understand why you aren’t going down that path anymore.

Brain of a dinosaur or not - you have a functioning brain. God gave it to you and you are blessed with a talent for illustration. Do not minimize this gift…creativity, insight, perspective - and the ability to convey that to others through pen and paper is something I’d love to have…but I don’t.

You have a condition which you are convinced will not improve and will not go away. So why do you want to be like everyone else? Why are you trying to be like everyone else? You are unique. You are special. You are God’s own creation. Embrace what God gave you, use it for His good however He guides you to do so, and be happy with who you are - limitations and all.

Heck, even us ‘normal’ people aren’t equal with each other. I’d love to be able to comprehend things on a deeper level and I don’t have a disability to curse for my not being able to. I just can’t, because that’s not the gift God granted to me. But that’s OK. I do have other talents that I know other people don’t have so I focus on developing those and they bring me peace and happiness. I hope you can find your special talents and come to celebrate them.

You know what? I’m not disabled, mentally or physically, but I too live each day thanking God for the day I’ll die. But it’s not because I’m miserable or feel worthless. It’s because heaven is much more appealing to me. This life is hard. An aging body is a pain. Not being able to help my children with their emotional problems is agony. Having to struggle with money matters, job security, medical expenses is tedious and scary. I wanna go where the grass is green all the time, the air is clear, the temperatures perfect, the love of God is all around me.

I have a clue. I don’t know entirely. But I have a clue because I have a husband with ADHD, both kids have ADD, and my son had a frightening bought of depression. I have a father and siblings with diabetes. I had a nephew who was born with a layer of his brain missing. He couldn’t talk, he couldn’t sit up on his own or walk. He had a wonderful smile and laugh and a gorgeous head of hair. He died at age 9.

I believe it will. I’m so thrilled about your upcoming confirmation! Have you sat before the Eucharist at Adoration? You may find it more comforting than that sunset you long for. It has helped me a lot.
Hmmmm…so then if the ADD is affecting my function to focus, than that must be the cause for my not comprehending! I mean, if I was focused, would I be able to comprehend stuff? How can you comprehend things if you’re not focused! LOL!

You asked me why I want to be like everyone else? Well, I don’t want to be like everyone else because what if they don’t believe in God or is whatever, not in that way! 😉 BUT I wish I could understand things better like everyone else I should’ve said. Look, it’s going to effect the work I do out in the real world if I don’t focus or comprehend what I need to comprehend and know for my degree! I guess it’s “not being a failure” like I have in the past. PERHAPS I NEED TO DENY MYSELF AND TAKE UP MY CROSS AND FOLLOW OUR LORD! And THAT includes failing in the real world perhaps?

But really, I NEED to know the info in order to function - would the word - in the world, and it makes it difficult for an ADDic!

Look at it this way: my private art teacher has a learning disability yet she’s a beautiful painter. She told me she had an instructor who didn’t understand her needs and was mean to her. She finally got fed up with how he was treating her and went up to his desk one day and asked him to draw this horse (I guesss he had a statue or a picture of a horse). He looked at her and said something like, what? I can’t do that! I don’t understand or can see how to draw that!

Well, THAT’S what it felt to her for not understanding the academic work! She had the understanding of how to draw and not the understanding of academic stuff but the instructor did have the ability to understand what he was teaching yet NOT the ability to draw.

That’s what it feels like! That’s the CLOSEST I can get to let people have an IDEA what it feels like. I’m not saying that to be rude or anything but it’s a good illustration!
 
Paris Blues:
Hmmmm…so then if the ADD is affecting my function to focus, than that must be the cause for my not comprehending! I mean, if I was focused, would I be able to comprehend stuff? How can you comprehend things if you’re not focused! LOL!
You physician would be able to diagnose that. ADD is the inability to focus, but it is also possible your brain is unable to comprehend for other reasons besides the ADD.

Comprehension is the ability to understand what it is you are taking in - either by sound, sight, touch, smell.

Attention is the ability to focus on a sight, sound, touch, smell long enough to take in the message so that you can process it.

It’s like the Memory Card game. When your opponent flips two cards to see if they are a match, you only have a short period of time to take in whatever is on that card. Your brain might be able to see the entire image and identify it completely (say, it’s a coffee cup)…or your brain sees the entire image but only processes the handle of the cup, not the whole cup…or it takes in the background colors and not the image at all.

Now with the ADD the problem is that while that card is exposed as much as you’d like to just look at the card to take in as much information as you can, your brain jumps over to the music playing in the background, or the loose thread that’s on your sleeve or on your opponent’s sleeve, or basically anything BUT the card that is exposed. Before you know it your brain brings you back to the card but it’s now flipped over.

While your brain is able to distinguish a cup from a dog, or blue from red (that’s your comprehension), the ADD didn’t allow you to soak up the images long enough to make that distinction.

But what if your brain is able to distinguish between a cup from a dog, but it can’t, for whatever reason, distinguish between an english stein, coffee mug, or a porcelain tea cup. Then your comprehension would be limited and it has nothing to do with the ADD. You see both images entirely but they are both cups, no more, no less. The details get lost in your brain.
PERHAPS I NEED TO DENY MYSELF AND TAKE UP MY CROSS AND FOLLOW OUR LORD! And THAT includes failing in the real world perhaps?
You do not need to FAIL. I think that’s what I’m trying to get across to you. You are already SUCCEEDING. Why are you setting yourself up to fail from this point forward? God gave you special talents. He has a purpose for those talents and for you. You WILL succeed at being the best you can be because you love the Lord and you have Faith. Will it be as easy as it is for ‘normal’ people? No. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. Please stop saying you’re doomed for failure because you have mental limitations.

The thing is, from the research I’ve read over the years about AD/HD most people who have this are quite intelligent and quite creative. It’s almost like geniuses being social inept. They can’t help it, it’s just the way their brains are wired, but they still manage to find a niche for themselves in society and usually are large contributors to the advancement of their fields - math, science, art, literature. The movie “A Brilliant Mind” comes to mind, have you seen it? As does Bill Gates, Einstein and others…

How did they do it? I don’t know.
Where they happy people? Maybe, most, probably not.
Where they important to this world? Absolutely.

One thing I know is that ADDers are able to focus for incredible amounts of time on certain tasks…each person is different. I believe that is how they survived…they found their niche and carved a living out of that. My son is gearing toward cinematography and my daughter is gearing toward theater because they find they are able to do those things for hours at a time. They know they would not survive in an office job or get through medical school. Your art teacher found hers, you need to find yours.
But really, I NEED to know the info in order to function - would the word - in the world, and it makes it difficult for an ADDic!

That’s what it feels like! That’s the CLOSEST I can get to let people have an IDEA what it feels like. I’m not saying that to be rude or anything but it’s a good illustration!
It’s frustrating, it’s excrutiating, I get that. But it’s the way it is, it’s not going to change, so your teacher found her outlet - her way to function in the world, make a living, and be happy with what she does despite her limitations. You can and you will, too.

Is your art teacher still angry about her limitations? If not, ask her how she got past that.
 
Paris Blues,
You are me. Everything you said I could have wrote. Except for the facials. 😃

What I discovered is that there are eight forms of intellegence and when you get really shorted in some then you get amped up in others. You sound like you got a whopping amount of existential/theological intellegence. Its the difference between intellegence and wisdom.

Our society is really geared towards only a couple forms of intellegence. More than anything I want to be a priest. But I just cant work and study at the same time like you. Plus I just cant work my logic like they want me to in classes. I have come to understand people like us aren’t dumb. I might have flunked out of the Seminary in my early twenties but in my thirties I pray more than then and am still chaste. God gave me strengths that just arent recognized by the institutions that run the world.

There are some things that I do better than even some of the professors at my local seminary that I talk to on a regular basis. Like recognizing obscure patterns within scripture. Recently I wrote a simplified book on Catholic Mysticism and was told there were no errors except for some theological terms which is of course not my forte.

You are not dumb. I wish I had a website to refer you to but I dont. Some of the eight forms are spatial, athletic, musical, existential…cant remember the rest, not because I am dumb, but because my strengths lie elsewhere.

I hope this helps.

Darin
 
Paris Blues:
For the last few days or so, I’ve been quite angry at God for letting me suffer with attention deficit disorder, anxieties and anger problems as well as a learning disability. I know some of you think I am not that kind of person but I’m being extremely t otally honest with you all here!

First of all, I feel like my brain is like so dumb and I can’t seem to function great in this “business” world. Well, I can but I struggle like hell. Why the heck would God let me struggle with this? My brain is so limited.

Second, I have a reading comprehension problem as well so how the heck can I understand the CCC or the Bible itself if I don’t know how to comprehend what I’m reading? Well, I wll say that I can read but it’s at a lower level and more like I need to have “lames terms”! It stinks, it really does!

Third, I can’t seem to concentrate or focus praying due to my dumb brain not being able to focus on meditating, praying, etc. like I have to struggle at it and then when I finally get the prayer out, it doesn’t mean a thing anymore. As if I was praying in vain because my mind is focused only on me trying to focus to pray, does that make sense?

I was diagnosed with all these problems at least 10 or so years ago and have been in hell suffering with them up 'till now.

I am so angry! I wish I was dead, I really do! And I REALLY HATE to say this but in my situation, life is a CURSE when you go through what I go through. It ain’t a blessing! But that’s how I feel. You guys really have no idea of terrible this is.

Now I know some people say well, offer it up! I did and it didn’t do anything, no peace, no nothing. I am too angry to even offer it up! Some of you guys obviously don’t know me but I can get extremely angry…so angry that I cuss when I’m praying! Like, Lord why the heck are you letting me suffer this cra p? that’s how angry I am!

I also can’t help but think the devil is at it again. You know, like tempting me with evil, impure thoughts that no one else would think, etc.

If anyone else here on this forum is going through something very similar, I would like to know how they deal with it.

Some of you on this forum will think that I’m going overboard with this but I just can’t seem to deal with it anymore!

Could you guys help me in trying to deal with this because I’m going to have it for the rest of my life (which causes me more dread!)?

Also, what does the CC teach about being dumb? :rolleyes:
I donot know what the CC teaches, but if you do not stop calling my beautiful sister in Christ Nicole dumb I am going to pop you one right on the noggin - and then I’ll have to go to confession …
 
Paris Blues:
I swear, the only thing that is going to help me calm down is going by a calm lake at sunset and meditate but there is nothing close to where I live!
Try sitting in front of Jesus in the tabernacle instead. You will feel His graces washing over you as you sit in the river of His Mercy and Love. Or if you have Eucharistic adoration available – GO! Even if it’s just for 15 minutes. Lay your burdens at the foot of our Savior and He will help you with them.
 
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DarinHamel:
Paris Blues,
You are me. Everything you said I could have wrote. Except for the facials. 😃

What I discovered is that there are eight forms of intellegence and when you get really shorted in some then you get amped up in others. You sound like you got a whopping amount of existential/theological intellegence. Its the difference between intellegence and wisdom.

Our society is really geared towards only a couple forms of intellegence. More than anything I want to be a priest. But I just cant work and study at the same time like you. Plus I just cant work my logic like they want me to in classes. I have come to understand people like us aren’t dumb. I might have flunked out of the Seminary in my early twenties but in my thirties I pray more than then and am still chaste. God gave me strengths that just arent recognized by the institutions that run the world.

There are some things that I do better than even some of the professors at my local seminary that I talk to on a regular basis. Like recognizing obscure patterns within scripture. Recently I wrote a simplified book on Catholic Mysticism and was told there were no errors except for some theological terms which is of course not my forte.

You are not dumb. I wish I had a website to refer you to but I dont. Some of the eight forms are spatial, athletic, musical, existential…cant remember the rest, not because I am dumb, but because my strengths lie elsewhere.

I hope this helps.

Darin
Hi! May God bless you to become a priest!

I also heard that God USES THE WEAK so I guess I should start being more humble.

You’re right, I’m not dumb - though the reason I say that sometimes is because I FEEL like that. We all have our strengths and weaknesses and we need to focus on the strengths more. I guess I get too caught up in trying to do everything good and all even though I know I am not going to learn that fast like everyone else. 😦 Oh well.

Though it’s amazing because yesterday I had to talk to a counselor about something and I simply prayed, “Jesus, you’re with me here” and as I was talking to her, I understood what the heck she was talking about! I was amazed because usually I can’t do that. I KNEW it was our Lord!

Jesus said, “without me, you can do nothing!”

:amen:
 
Paris,

I don’t have a “ME-ology” problem. I want to be Protestant and take the easy way with Burger King theology - picking and choosing or just plain inventing what to believe in like give me instant salvation but hold the hope, and endurance with fear and trembling. Give me instant pleasure but hold the suffering Gods word warns us about. Let me read the Bible but treat others poorly. Sin is OK since I’m allready forgiven and Christ died on the cross and took all my past present and future sins away. Etc… ad nausium…

BUT, Jesus founded a Church that has led me to the truth in Him. I am human and sin. I drift. But His visible body on earth, His Catholic Church is allways there and ready to pick me up and say, “Your sins are forgiven…”, etc. His Church is there so I can participate in His sacrifice of the Mass. His Church is there to learn me His truth when I wonder from it. He loved me so much He gave me His Body to watch out for me, even when the parish priest doesn’t even know my name.

God did give me freewill and a clear mind to accept His offer of Grace with. If we use logic - not emotion - we become Catholic. That’s why God gave us a brain, to overcome the emotion Satan tempts us with.

We all have our own passion(suffering) to deal with. Imagine the suffering of Saint Kolbe in a NAZI death camp and offering his life for that of a Jew, a Jew who is still alive today the last I checked with a large and wonderful family. Is your passion as great as his? Sometimes we just feel like our suffering is great when in fact it just takes some time to deal with it.

When I garden in my Mary garden I use an MP3 player because I can’t allways concentrate on prayers either, I just learned to compensate, so can you.

JMJ
 
I don’t have a “ME-ology” problem. I want to be Protestant and take the easy way with Burger King theology - picking and choosing or just plain inventing what to believe in like give me instant salvation but hold the hope, and endurance with fear and trembling. Give me instant pleasure but hold the suffering Gods word warns us about. Let me read the Bible but treat others poorly. Sin is OK since I’m allready forgiven and Christ died on the cross and took all my past present and future sins away. Etc… ad nausium…
Wow, tell us how you REALLY feel about all of us protestants. 🙂 Your distaste for us is evident. It’s christians like you that make God so hard to believe in. If you learn to show a little love for your brothers and sisters in Christ you can get WAY further in a conversation with us. 😃
 
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Singinbeauty:
Wow, tell us how you REALLY feel about all of us protestants. 🙂 Your distaste for us is evident. It’s christians like you that make God so hard to believe in. If you learn to show a little love for your brothers and sisters in Christ you can get WAY further in a conversation with us. 😃
Well, Singin, this IS a Catholic website and you are on the Apologetics forum, in case you’ve lost your way here too. Sorry that you are always offended. Our distaste is not with you personally. It’s with man-made styles of worship, out of step with what Jesus himself wanted. Protestants just blow Jesus off and do their own thing, all the while believing (sincerely I’m sure) that they are doing right. (There are none more blind than those who WILL NOT see) No need to drag out the old the laundry list again, I know you’ve heard em’ all by now. No, we don’t have a distaste for you. We wish and pray your eyes are opened one day. Maybe they will. Maybe that’s why you are here. The Lord works in mysterious ways.
 
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RiverRock:
Well, Singin, this IS a Catholic website and you are on the Apologetics forum, in case you’ve lost your way here too. Sorry that you are always offended. Our distaste is not with you personally. It’s with man-made styles of worship, out of step with what Jesus himself wanted. Protestants just blow Jesus off and do their own thing, all the while believing (sincerely I’m sure) that they are doing right. (There are none more blind than those who WILL NOT see) No need to drag out the old the laundry list again, I know you’ve heard em’ all by now. No, we don’t have a distaste for you. We wish and pray your eyes are opened one day. Maybe they will. Maybe that’s why you are here. The Lord works in mysterious ways.
Hey, I know we don’t have a distaste for Protestants but your last post sure isn’t witness to that.

What it does witness to is that you are angry and tired and frustrated with the “Jesus lovers who cannot see the Truth which is right in front of them” (not your words, but basically yours and a lot of other peoples’ perspective)…and I’m sure you’re frustrated with the situation not the people…but you are lashing out at the people to express your frustration. It’s in the tone and choice of words you use to communicate in their presence.

Yes, this is a Catholic forum, but Catholic Answers invites all people to visit so they can ask questions and get answers. Here CA is reaching out to non-Catholics, non-Catholics respond to the invitation - and then get hit with a post which says ‘this is a Catholic board’, along with negative toned words describing the non-Catholic’s beliefs.

Keep in mind that by posting here you also represent Catholic Answers in that this is their home. You are a guest as much as the non-Catholic and you treating others rudely insults the host (let alone Christ, whom you represent - being Catholic and all yourself).

Read your posts before you hit the ENTER button. If you can hear Jesus’ voice in your words, press the button. If not, touch it up a bit.

Peace.
 
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RiverRock:
Well, Singin, this IS a Catholic website and you are on the Apologetics forum, in case you’ve lost your way here too. Sorry that you are always offended. Our distaste is not with you personally. It’s with man-made styles of worship, out of step with what Jesus himself wanted. Protestants just blow Jesus off and do their own thing, all the while believing (sincerely I’m sure) that they are doing right. (There are none more blind than those who WILL NOT see) No need to drag out the old the laundry list again, I know you’ve heard em’ all by now. No, we don’t have a distaste for you. We wish and pray your eyes are opened one day. Maybe they will. Maybe that’s why you are here. The Lord works in mysterious ways.
I’d like to know what you know about me that says I ‘blow Jesus off’. Do you know my heart??? Do you know where I come from and what kind of a relationship I have with God? Do you even know ME? The answer to all these questions is NO. I am so tired of catholics (not all mind you but some a minority 😉 ) who get up on their high horse and spit on the ‘lowly’ protestants who stand up and ask questions. Who mock those around them trying to find their way to God. And who berate them every chance they get.

Am I offended by your post? Not in the least. I was just pointing out the distaste that I perceived coming from the post. Do I care if you like me or not… or even that you think that I, and my fellow protestant brothers and sisters, are morons (Don’t deny it to make yourself sound more charitable than you actually are… It’s right there in your post and the words you choose 🙂 )? No, I don’t care at all. You may think my ideas, research, faith, and beliefs are idiotic but I do not feel compelled from God to change them so as long as He and I are ok… Then I am GREAT! 👍 Thank you for caring about me and wanting me to know YOUR truth but I believe that God has shown me mine. We are both children of God and will reside with Him someday side by side and I will be happy to see you. You’ve got a big hug waiting for you!
 
I’ll just lightly skip over the protestant/catholic arguement developing above and get straight back to the issue at hand.

When I had a problem not dissimilar to yours i asked Our Lady for help by giving my all to her. It worked, :). Maybe you should try it?

In Christ.

Andre.
 
Again, in all seriousness. If a person has taken medication for years upon years with no results or improvement whatsoever, it could help you to contact an exorcist in your diocese or state. I am really serious here. Many times when medications fail it is because demons are affecting your body. No, your not possessed…but you are oppressed. Remember, the word exorcism simply means “blessing.” Even a priest may be willing to do this for you. If you experience opposition continue trying.
 
Dear Paris Blues,

I’m sorry I didn’t read this whole thread, but I wanted you to know that I heard you, and I knew you weren’t kidding.

Last week something very strange happened – about the time of a funeral Mass I played piano/organ for, and I was nearly disabled for three or four days. I was so depressed I thought about being dead quite a bit. It was probably the deepest depression I’ve ever experienced, except for one last spring that lasted several months.

It surprised me that I got that way, but I was able to keep from doing anything stupid, and I knew the whole time it would pass – and pass it did, rather quickly.

The thing that I think made a great deal of difference, is that I’m learning to deal with my “bipolar” or whatever it is that I have/am/do.

Through a great deal of self-study of philosophy and religion from both Catholic and non-Catholic sources, contemplative prayer and even these forums, I believe I have gotten to the point where I have “learned” to handle these things better.

The depth of that depression last week did surprise me, almost to the point that I was intellectually curious about it and regarded myself a bit of a lab rat while at the same places feeling angry and sad.

Then, like a “brain freeze” when I eat ice cream too fast, it slacked off even though it seemed it would last forever.

During this depression, I knew a great deal more. I slept a lot, and spent much time in introspection – something shrinks don’t tend to recommend – but then I got out of it.

So I guess I’m not invulnerable emotionally, but compared to four years ago when they locked me in the booby hatch, I’m James Bond next to Barney Fife.

Also from your post I noticed that this has been going on a while, and wondered whether your being “diagnosed” 10 years ago might have actually contributed to your problems? Just wondering… sometimes I think when one is put in the situation of a psychiatric patient, one is practically expected to behave a certain way and have certain problems. My first instinct is to tell you, don’t believe them. You may have limitations; one I have is that I normally read slowly – one of the reasons I didn’t scope this whole thread before posting.

Gosh I don’t know what I want to say that might be actually useful. I hear you. THEY have said I’ll probably “have nervous trouble for the rest of my born days” but right now, and in general except for last week, I can’t think of a time I’ve ever been happier. Each time I go down and back up, I get back up a little faster, and when I go down I’ve learned to realize that This Too Will Pass.

Also one thing I’m fairly convinced of, is that most “mental illness” is more likely caused by environment than by some freak “chemical imbalance.” I’m also convinced there are spiritual solutions to these problems – of course I’m not saying to discontinue seeing a medical doctor or anything. If you are interested in hearing more about some of the things I’ve studied that have helped, please feel free to PM me. I’m often a bit reluctant to name non-Catholic philosophers and spiritual advisors out here in the open. Last time I mentioned Deepak Chopra, though, and his “Seven Spiritual Laws of Success” video I didn’t get beaten up too badly – maybe it’s all in my mind. 😛

Alan
 
I was rather depressive as a teenage, and go on this way until I joined charismatic renewal a few years ago. I was literally healed by singing songs of praises to God.

Being “not so bright” as seen by the world does not neccessarily make us “truly” not bright, because wisdom from God is much more precious than wisdom of men.

In our search of answer to the big question “WHY” God has made us this way (as asked by Job in the book of Job), we are to learn God’s wisdom.

Thus through our live we are to learn to be wiser and wiser according to God’s own teaching. And His tool to teach us is no other but our own daily lives.

I remember one of the songs most often sung in my prayer group was like this :

I will enter His gate with thanksgiving in my heart
I will enter His court with praise
I will say this is the day that the lord has made
I will rejoice for He has made me glad.

He has made me glad…
He has made me glad…
I will rejoice for He has made me glad.

I went home truly feeling glad. And I knew it was not only “illusion” because the gladness sustained me longer and longer. Now I do not need any songs to keep my mood. I am depression free. And yes I still sing songs of praises.

God bless in your journey Paris Blues.
 
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YinYangMom:
If you can hear Jesus’ voice in your words, press the button. If not, touch it up a bit.
Great advice. This will help me for future posts. 👍
 
Paris Blues:
Second, I have a reading comprehension problem as well so how the heck can I understand the CCC
Many people who do not having reading comprehension problems find the CCC difficult to wade through. I would highly suggest looking for a copy of the Baltimore Catechism. It was for many years the preferred Catechsim of the Church, because it explains matters of the Faith in a very straight-forward, easy to comprehend manner.

Check out this link:

tanbooks.com/index.php/page/shop:flypage/product_id/371/
 
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