I'm sorry but I have a dire question

[DatGangstaStuff]

I’m sorry that I caused you all trouble back a while back by being a jerk and all that. I hope you’ll forgive me… I’m very much in need of some advice from everyone here… You people think deeper than many of my Catholic friends…

I was walking around tonight all alone and found myself by a Planned Parenthood building… I got to thinking about it and it made me very angry (I hate abortion). This led to me spitting on the side of the building. Have I sinned? I thought I had, but then I wasn’t sure… Didn’t Jesus turn over the tables of the money changers in disgust? Surely spit isn’t as bad as that… I know that the spit still might have to be wiped off, but thats all it would take- I didn’t graffiti it or anything… My intent in spitting was to show disgust for that organization- not any person in particular in it… What do you think?

Also- this question is dual sided. As today is Sunday, I received Holy Eucharist this morning. Is spitting later in the day after receiving the Holy Eucharist sinful? Please, please let me know. I especially don’t want to be guilty of defiling the Lord!!!

Again, I know I’m back here with my tail between my legs so to speak, but I am humble, so have mercy.

Thank you.

 

[DatGangstaStuff]

Well… I guess I’ll go clean the spit off… Just because no one is answering and I’m afraid I injured Jesus.

 

[JezuUfamTobie]

Assuming this is a serious question… You’ve got guts, that’s for sure. For coming back I mean, not for spitting on a building. I admire your humility.

You also seem to have maybe a little, teensy tendency toward being scrupulous, eh? I sincerely doubt that you committed a mortal sin by spitting on this building. Your intent was not to harm anyone or damage property, and you most likely didn’t.

Now, that said, I would consider this to be a venial sin. In the passage you mention, Christ displays His just anger in a shocking and physical way. But He is God, he is the Just Judge and we are not. It is not our place to do anything so dramatic as spit on someone’s property in spite, or overturn their tables. We are called to love as Christ loves. I am sure you can think of many charitable and constructive ways to channel your anger at the holocaust of abortion. (Volunteering, praying, peacefully protesting, etc.) You might humbly mention this sin the next time you are in the confessional.

God bless!

 

[Viki59]

Hi.
I missed when you were being a jerk but am glad you’re back.

I don’t think spitting on a building is a sin. I’m often tempted to toss a rock through Planned Parenthood’s window, though I haven’t succumbed yet.
Maybe you should think about your attitude toward the people who work there. A saint would pray for their minds and souls, and many of them have actually changed their minds. Bernard Nathanson, for one – his book is great.

But righteous anger is appropriate in the face of such monumental evil as abortion clinics perpetuate. It won’t get us anywhere – only work and prayer will accomplish anything – but maybe anger will drive us to work and pray.
God bless.

 

[Zooey]

First, I’m glad you haven’t left us!
I have no idea how sinful it is to spit on Planned Parenthood…It was the building, its not like it was a person, but maybe this is a wake-up call for you to spend some time praying for the people who pray outside there? These folks must feel like spitting (or worse!!) all the time. Maybe, you could pray that they would be able to hold the anger, & be able to help to change some hearts & minds about abortion.
That seems to me like a good way to put your feelings about PP to work in a way that will be productive. There might even be some lives saved somewhere along the way, because the folks doing the sidewalk counseling were being held in prayer.

In any case, God bless.

 

[Mom_of_5]

No sins that I can see. Stop worrying so much about sinning. There are no perfect people, sometimes we anger, hopefully for all the right reasons, just keep your temper in check. I"ve seen people “spit” for less good reason. Don’t go clean the building, Let someone who works there get paid for cleaning rather than taking an innocent life.

God Bless,
Mom of 5

 

[WenckebachCath]

This is a “dire question”? Are you joking? I’m sorry, but I just don’t understand the urgency of this post. Are you pulling our legs?

 

[LilyM]

This is a “dire question”? Are you joking? I’m sorry, but I just don’t understand the urgency of this post. Are you pulling our legs?

Apparently not… and wasn’t this poster the same one accusing US of fostering scrupulosity because of people asking if ‘every little thing’ was a sin or some such? :ehh:

 

[BrownR]

Confess thy spit!

 

[Malcolm_McLean]

I was walking around tonight all alone and found myself by a Planned Parenthood building… I got to thinking about it and it made me very angry (I hate abortion). This led to me spitting on the side of the building. Have I sinned?

One of the reasons evil behaviour is evil is that there is no right or ideal way of dealing with it.
You could say that spitting is an appropriate display of disgust, or you could say it is childish, or even that you are using the abortion issue as an excuse for mob hate.

Also- this question is dual sided. As today is Sunday, I received Holy Eucharist this morning. Is spitting later in the day after receiving the Holy Eucharist sinful? Please, please let me know. I especially don’t want to be guilty of defiling the Lord!!!

Again, I know I’m back here with my tail between my legs so to speak, but I am humble, so have mercy.

Thank you.

Spitting out the Holy Eucharist is a serious sin, if done with the intention of showing contempt or defiling it.
It is a sin, but not normally a very serious one, to violate social manners. If you live in a Western country probably spitting in public is regarded as offensive, but not really grossly so.

 

[deb1]

This is a “dire question”? Are you joking? I’m sorry, but I just don’t understand the urgency of this post. Are you pulling our legs?

I think that the poster is young man so he is probably at an age when he is worried about what exactly constitutes right and wrong behavior.

 

[kellie]

I’m sorry that I caused you all trouble back a while back by being a jerk and all that. I hope you’ll forgive me… I’m very much in need of some advice from everyone here… You people think deeper than many of my Catholic friends…

I was walking around tonight all alone and found myself by a Planned Parenthood building… I got to thinking about it and it made me very angry (I hate abortion). This led to me spitting on the side of the building. Have I sinned? I thought I had, but then I wasn’t sure… Didn’t Jesus turn over the tables of the money changers in disgust? Surely spit isn’t as bad as that… I know that the spit still might have to be wiped off, but thats all it would take- I didn’t graffiti it or anything… My intent in spitting was to show disgust for that organization- not any person in particular in it… What do you think?

Also- this question is dual sided. As today is Sunday, I received Holy Eucharist this morning. Is spitting later in the day after receiving the Holy Eucharist sinful? Please, please let me know. I especially don’t want to be guilty of defiling the Lord!!!

Again, I know I’m back here with my tail between my legs so to speak, but I am humble, so have mercy.

Thank you.

I need to ask, are you afraid of dying young and being in a state of mortal sin and not being able to enter Heaven?

You seem young, and your gangsta name seems to imply a risky life. You seem so worried about upsetting Jesus so much, that is why I ask this.

 

[wcknight]

Spitting on an abortion clinic or almost anywhere else in not a serious sin, and spitting some time later after Communion , assuming you have completely swallowed the Eucharist and have left the Church, is not a serious sin either. UNLESS you are trying to show disrespect to the Body and Blood of Christ.

Spitting is considered by many folks as ill mannered or rude, but once in a while you get a hair ball or build up of ‘stuff’ and it’s got no where to go but out on the grass or elsewhere. We certainly don’t want to swallow it.

 

[FCEGM]

I’m sorry that I caused you all trouble back a while back by being a jerk and all that. I hope you’ll forgive me… I’m very much in need of some advice from everyone here… You people think deeper than many of my Catholic friends…

I was walking around tonight all alone and found myself by a Planned Parenthood building… I got to thinking about it and it made me very angry (I hate abortion). This led to me spitting on the side of the building. Have I sinned? I thought I had, but then I wasn’t sure… Didn’t Jesus turn over the tables of the money changers in disgust? Surely spit isn’t as bad as that… I know that the spit still might have to be wiped off, but thats all it would take- I didn’t graffiti it or anything… My intent in spitting was to show disgust for that organization- not any person in particular in it… What do you think?

Also- this question is dual sided. As today is Sunday, I received Holy Eucharist this morning. Is spitting later in the day after receiving the Holy Eucharist sinful? Please, please let me know. I especially don’t want to be guilty of defiling the Lord!!!

Again, I know I’m back here with my tail between my legs so to speak, but I am humble, so have mercy.

Thank you.

I doubt if your spitting was sinful, but a spiritually more profitable way for you to channel your anger would be to join with other Catholics in a prayer vigil at Planned Parenthood or other such facilities. Contact your parish to see if there is a group that regularly does this. Also, instead of spitting, sprinkling the sacramental of blessed salt would be more efficacious.

claretiantapeministry.org/teachings/SALT.html

 

[DatGangstaStuff]

Thank you for your advice… Last night was a hell of a night for me… I had to wipe up the spit and then burn the kleenex… I did so for the sake of the Eucharist more than for the clinic’s sake…

As for this being a scrupulous or idle fear, maybe it was when thinking about whether I had offended by spitting on the clinic, but any question that considers the Holiness of the Eucharist is not excessive in my sight.

People need to stop caring about my name… Its just for fun. I’m not in danger of death (I don’t think), although I constantly worry about dying with mortal sin… Though after I’ve Confessed and received Communion I feel like I want to die sometimes so I can stop worrying so much and just rest…

God’s Will be done.

 

[Alterum]

… I had to wipe up the spit and then burn the kleenex…

I constantly worry about dying with mortal sin… Though after I’ve Confessed and received Communion I feel like I want to die sometimes so I can stop worrying so much and just rest…

You are suffering from scrupulosity. I don’t think that sort of behavior is quite normal. Certainly, you shouldn’t be in constant fear of dying in mortal sin. I would be worried that you have a somewhat distorted view of Catholic teaching. A good friend of mine suffered from scrupulosity for a long time; it seemed to manifest as obsessive behavior and frequent anxiety. Can you talk to a (good) priest about these things?

 

[deb1]

Thank you for your advice… Last night was a hell of a night for me… I had to wipe up the spit and then burn the kleenex… I did so for the sake of the Eucharist more than for the clinic’s sake…

As for this being a scrupulous or idle fear, maybe it was when thinking about whether I had offended by spitting on the clinic, but any question that considers the Holiness of the Eucharist is not excessive in my sight.

People need to stop caring about my name… Its just for fun. I’m not in danger of death (I don’t think), although I constantly worry about dying with mortal sin… Though after I’ve Confessed and received Communion I feel like I want to die sometimes so I can stop worrying so much and just rest…

God’s Will be done.

One of the aspects of being a Christian is that we each struggle with our own individual weakness and sins. I, certainly, have a whole horde of faults that I have to overcome.

I think that you are suffering from scrupulosity. But don’t worry, you aren’t alone in having to fight against this.

 

[m134e5]

I’m sorry that I caused you all trouble back a while back by being a jerk and all that. I hope you’ll forgive me… I’m very much in need of some advice from everyone here… You people think deeper than many of my Catholic friends…

Don’t worry about it- this is an online forum. People shouldn’t be affected too much by what is said, since most of us spend the majority of their time at their jobs/school, and with their family and friends. We don’t lose sleep over what is said here (at least I don’t).

I was walking around tonight all alone and found myself by a Planned Parenthood building… I got to thinking about it and it made me very angry (I hate abortion). This led to me spitting on the side of the building. Have I sinned? I thought I had, but then I wasn’t sure… Didn’t Jesus turn over the tables of the money changers in disgust? Surely spit isn’t as bad as that… I know that the spit still might have to be wiped off, but thats all it would take- I didn’t graffiti it or anything… My intent in spitting was to show disgust for that organization- not any person in particular in it… What do you think?

That may be a venial sin. Instead of doing that, pray for all those affected by those horrible places.

Also- this question is dual sided. As today is Sunday, I received Holy Eucharist this morning. Is spitting later in the day after receiving the Holy Eucharist sinful? Please, please let me know. I especially don’t want to be guilty of defiling the Lord!!!

No, just don’t spit out the Sacrament or anything.

 

[onceagain]

What you need is to pick up a new hobby. Who trolls Catholic forums?

 

[McKevin]

I’m sorry that I caused you all trouble back a while back by being a jerk and all that. I hope you’ll forgive me… I’m very much in need of some advice from everyone here… You people think deeper than many of my Catholic friends…

I was walking around tonight all alone and found myself by a Planned Parenthood building… I got to thinking about it and it made me very angry (I hate abortion). This led to me spitting on the side of the building. Have I sinned? I thought I had, but then I wasn’t sure… Didn’t Jesus turn over the tables of the money changers in disgust? Surely spit isn’t as bad as that… I know that the spit still might have to be wiped off, but thats all it would take- I didn’t graffiti it or anything… My intent in spitting was to show disgust for that organization- not any person in particular in it… What do you think?

Also- this question is dual sided. As today is Sunday, I received Holy Eucharist this morning. Is spitting later in the day after receiving the Holy Eucharist sinful? Please, please let me know. I especially don’t want to be guilty of defiling the Lord!!!

Again, I know I’m back here with my tail between my legs so to speak, but I am humble, so have mercy.

Thank you.

Dude! Don’t be offended, but I think your story is kind of funny. It seems that you have a good heart but struggle with walking the walk. Am I right? (I’m usually not), but do know that the church teaches that the moment that host is received and starts to be digested by your digestive system you can no longer offend the presence of Christ by either spitting or vomitting. So you didn’t sin brother! But your love for Christ is evident! Welcome back and stick around, ok, I’m new here to and I like reading your posts…it’s all a journey and we’re all at different stages.

God bless you - God’s Gangsta for sure!

McKevin

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