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. . . . . . EMHC’s putting their fingers in my mouth!

After reading quotes and opinions from Mother Teresa, the pope, and countless others about the seeming lack of resect by receiving the host in my hand, I decided to go back to the “way I was raised” i.e. communion placed in my mouth.

I also don’t take the chalice so that I can avoid germs.

So it seems like at least half the time, I get a finger in the mouth.

I don’t know. Maybe a communion-on-the-tongue training class is in order. Or maybe oblong hosts.

Anyway, just a little rant. . . .
 
Two things.

One, open your mouth a little wider. This from a an EMHC that told me that 90% of the time when he touches someones mouth it is because they didn’t open their mouth wide enough.

Two, talk to your priest about training. 👍

I also hate getting a finger in my mouth.
 
I just make sure I sit on the side of the Parish where Father administers the Blessed Sacrament. If the Father and an EMHC switch, I quietly change lines.🙂
 
I did that to a few poor souls - they just didn’t open their mouths!! I tried not to but was worried about the host falling!
 
pollycarp said:
I did that to a few poor souls - they just didn’t open their mouths!! I tried not to but was worried about the host falling!
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This, and sticking your tongue out.

Our priests gave people some extra “lessons” about a month ago, instructing people that if they were going to receive on the tongue they needed to actually open their mouth and stick out their tongue.

Sometimes, it might be that EMHC (or even priests) are not fully trained on that, but speaking as an EMHC it is pretty hard to try and get a host in an areas that is about 1.5’’ (wide) by 1/2’’-3/4’’ (high) without touching someone’s mouth without literally tossing it.

From the point of view of the minister, they’re nervous too. They’re trying to do the best they can to get the host to your mouth, and believe me when I say nobody want touch someone else’s mouth.

If you want to receive COTT then absolutely you can, but don’t make it nearly impossible for the minister (ordinary or extraordinary) to get the host in your mouth. Really, you have to work together. Make the minister comfortable about getting the host on your tongue, and it will go smoothly.
 
That is the reason I receive in the hand if from an EMHC, on the tongue from a Priest or Deacon.
 
one more reason to get rid of EMHCs.

As a side note, Rome said that habitually using these people is a liturgical practice that is to be eliminated (cf. Vatican.va). Why not just start doing what Rome mandated…back in 1997.
To avoid creating confusion, **certain practices are to be avoided and eliminated **where such have emerged in particular Churches:
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— extraordinary ministers receiving Holy Communion apart from the other faithful as though concelebrants;
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— association with the renewal of promises made by priests at the Chrism Mass on Holy Thursday, as well as other categories of faithful who renew religious vows or receive a mandate as extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion;
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— the habitual use of extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion at Mass thus arbitrarily extending the concept of “a great number of the faithful”.
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If EMHCs are on a schedule, that is habitual.
 
EMHC’s are not Extraordinary Ministers as Rome intended. They distribute Holy Communion at every Mass. Why should we have them at all, except in extraordinary circumstances?. There are rarely an extraordinary number of people present at any Mass where their assistance is required, as described in the documents of the Church. They distribute Holy Communion even for daily Masses!

Priests never touch my tongue when giving me Holy Communion. Lay MHC’s almost always touch my tongue. I’m disabled, and a lay MHC comes to me to administer Holy Communion. I receive it in my hand, though it breaks my heart. I pray for the day when every priest distributes Holy Communion, whether or not he is the celebrant, and all deacons, and lay people stay out of the sanctuary.
 
Err, it would be toug for the deacon to fulfil his prescribed role in the Mass if he had to stay out of the Sanctuary.

due to the deacon shortage, the priest routinely exercises the deacon’s role as well as his own. There are parts of the Mass that are supposed to be the deacon’s (others will know bet than I, but I think that all the parts labeled “priest or deacon” are properly the deacon).

And in the East, we do have extradordinary minsters who only (are supposed to) distribute the Eucharist when there are too many people for the priest to handle in a reasonable amount of time. We call them “Deacons”

🙂

More sensuously, deacons are regular ordained clergy, dating to the first century. They are clergy, not laity. The problem is priests usurping diaconal roles, nt the other way around.

hawk
 
Jim_Dandy said:
I pray for the day when every priest distributes Holy Communion, whether or not he is the celebrant, and all deacons, and lay people stay out of the sanctuary.
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So you want Deacons out of the sanctuary? Aren’t deacons ordinary ministers of communion?
 
Dirt said:
I just make sure I sit on the side of the Parish where Father administers the Blessed Sacrament. If the Father and an EMHC switch, I quietly change lines.🙂
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Receive COT in my parish from a priest or deacon and you’re likely to be touched on the tongue or lips. Age and deteriorating hand/eye coordination. The EMsHC are much better at distributing COT for the most part.
 
As someone who distributes Holy Communion on a regular basis at Mass I come across very few COTers who correctly open their mouth and present their tongues to receive the host.

In some cases it’s almost like trying to thread the host between clenched jaws. I suspect many are uncomfortable with the condition of their teeth.
 
SenorPaulito said:
As someone who distributes Holy Communion on a regular basis at Mass I come across very few COTers who correctly open their mouth and present their tongues to receive the host.

In some cases it’s almost like trying to thread the host between clenched jaws.
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It’s funny, isn’t it? It’s called Communion on the Tongue (COTT), and yet many people who choose to receive that way keep their tongue firmly planted behind their teeth or just at their lips as if it were Communion in the Mouth (CITM).

Yes, ministers need to be properly catechized, but so too do those who choose to receive COTT so that it doesn’t become CITM. I think the best way to describe it would be “stick your tongue out as if you were going to lick something”; think of this Einstein picture (being reverent and not goofy of course). Then the minister will be able to place the host on your tongue without issue.
 
Castello said:
That is the reason I receive in the hand if from an EMHC, on the tongue from a Priest or Deacon.
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The priests don’t get extra lessons on how to distribure communion on the tongue. The priest who teaches our seminarians also teaches diocesan EMHCs. Most of the time it is because the people don’t open their mouths and stick out there tongues. I can’t tell you how many people just grab it with their teeth and don’t even stick their tongue out. Then there are those who only stick it out a little. How can anyone get the host on it, priest or not priest.
 
maryjk said:
One, open your mouth a little wider. This from a an EMHC that told me that 90% of the time when he touches someones mouth it is because they didn’t open their mouth wide enough.
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Will do. Thanks.
 
Joannm said:
The priests don’t get extra lessons on how to distribure communion on the tongue. The priest who teaches our seminarians also teaches diocesan EMHCs. Most of the time it is because the people don’t open their mouths and stick out there tongues. I can’t tell you how many people just grab it with their teeth and don’t even stick their tongue out. Then there are those who only stick it out a little. How can anyone get the host on it, priest or not priest.
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I’ve yet to come across a priest in this part of the country who is not expert at placing the host on the tongue. Guess it is just a grace they receive without need for lessons.
 
As you can see, I haven’t made a great deal of posts on CAF. However, it seems that the “pat” answer in every thread in the “Liturgy and Sacraments” section is to suggest that you write your local Bishop and insist on some sort of immediate sanctions, just short of excommunication, in order to prevent this “liturgical abuse” from happening again!

Deal with it by moving over to “the Priest” line if you want to receive on the tongue.

I go to the Latin Mass at a parish in my city about once a month. I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard the priest say, “open wider” … “stick your tongue out”.

I know you are ranting (and so am I) but, Jeez Louise, isn’t that a bit picking nits here?
 
I know what you mean. When I go to the OF, I’ve received hand sanitizer residue in my mouth from EMHC’s who don’t know how to hold the host properly for COTT.

My FSSP priest holds the hosts differently than other priests and EMHC’s who are more familiar with CITH.

The other problem I have at the OF is the priest stuffing the host in my mouth while I’m still trying to say Amen.

My solution has been to start kneeling to receive communion. It has solved all COTT issues in the OF.
 
dochawk said:
Err, it would be toug for the deacon to fulfil his prescribed role in the Mass if he had to stay out of the Sanctuary.

due to the deacon shortage, the priest routinely exercises the deacon’s role as well as his own. There are parts of the Mass that are supposed to be the deacon’s (others will know bet than I, but I think that all the parts labeled “priest or deacon” are properly the deacon).

And in the East, we do have extradordinary minsters who only (are supposed to) distribute the Eucharist when there are too many people for the priest to handle in a reasonable amount of time. We call them “Deacons”

🙂

More sensuously, deacons are regular ordained clergy, dating to the first century. They are clergy, not laity. The problem is priests usurping diaconal roles, nt the other way around.

hawk
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I see now that my post was poorly worded. I meant that all priests and deacons assigned to the parish should distribute Holy Communion at every Mass and lay persons should stay out of the sanctuary. The word “deacons” was before the comma; the comma to me meant that “deacons” belonged with “priests,” and lay people were a separate category.
 
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