A translation of the order is exactly what I’m looking for. I would also like to have the Latin text, so I can learn it. I’ve already started learning some Latin hymns, such as “Panis Angelicus,” “Ave Maris Stella,” and “Tantum Ergo,” though I don’t know how to sing them in Latin all the way through yet. I was able to get English translations for the hymns mensioned above, along with the Latin texts. If I can do the same thing with the TLM, that would be great!If you can listen to a translation of the Order beforehand and then learn the Latin versions of a couple main parts (the Agnus Dei and the Sanctus, etc.) as well as what each ringing of the bell means (that’s a good way to know where in the liturgy the priest is). Then, like anything else, it will take a few times to learn when to kneel, stand, etc.
Click here. This may be one source for what you are seeking.A translation of the order is exactly what I’m looking for. I would also like to have the Latin text, so I can learn it. I’ve already started learning some Latin hymns, such as “Panis Angelicus,” “Ave Maris Stella,” and “Tantum Ergo,” though I don’t know how to sing them in Latin all the way through yet. I was able to get English translations for the hymns mensioned above, along with the Latin texts. If I can do the same thing with the TLM, that would be great!
The Mass is a liturgical rite. It is definitely about saying things and doing things in a special order. Additionally, the Mass is the fullness of Christ in all of His mysteries. So, it’s not just His cross and death, but His birth, life, resurrection, ascension and expectation of His return in glory also.You can participate just fine in the TLM, Mass is not about saying things and doing things in a special order. Mass is Calvary where you unite yourself to the saving sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, and pray for yourself and the world. I don’t think the Blessed Mother said much when she stood under the cross, but she’s the one to imitate when attending Mass.
Everything you said is true and I don’t disagree.Reggie, the fact is that some people cannot participate to the same degree you seem to expect or that is considered expected in the NO Mass. For centuries, many people faithfully attended Mass without being able to read a missal. I have heard of EF masses where you can’t hear a word the priest is saying. If you can’t follow along and be in step with the prayers said by the priest, that is OK.
Mass is not just “a visual experience” and it’s more than a liturgical rite. It’s Christ himself, true God and true man coming down on the altar renewing his covenant with us in the sacrifice of Calvary. The most important active participation in mass ( according to JP2) is interior participation through adoration, thanksgiving and supplication. If someone is blind that does not at all exclude them from the greatest prayer there is.Everything you said is true and I don’t disagree.
Pope Leo XIII taught that the faithful could say the rosary during Mass (since they couldn’t hear or understand the priest anyway).
This rendered the Mass entirely a “visual experience”. Certainly, I’ve been to many silent low Masses with no sermon or English readings.
The experience is silence and whatever visual cues one can find.
How does someone who is totally blind participate in that?
Basically, you go and offer private prayers or whatever kind of prayer you want.
True in the past people not only couldn’t read the missal, but they were forbidden from having hand-missals with vernacular translations (the Holy See forbade translations of the Mass).
This make sense and is consistent. If the Latin language was necessary to preserve doctrine then it doesn’t make sense for people to read the vernacular.
The priest represents the people in mass, he stands at the edge of heaven and intercedes on our behalf. Of course we should try to join in the sacrifice as much as we can. Foremost by interior active participation. There’s no need to panic if you don’t hear every word. Mass is the greatest mystery on earth and if we could understand it fully we would die, of love.But how can you participate in the liturgy of the word if you can’t hear or read the word? And join with the priest in asking forgiveness for our sins, praising God in the Gloria, attend attentively to the consecration, pray for the living and the dead, etc. if you don’t even know when he is doing those things? Finding a priest who speaks fairly loudly and sitting up front would be my best suggestions. There must be missals in braille.
Of course, you can attend mass without this if you must, but why would you want to do so if there is an alternative? The mass should be communal worship in which we each join individually.
Good questions. Basically, you cannot participate in the liturgy of the word if you cannot hear or read the word. This is major problem with the silent Low Mass (especially for people who are vision-impared). We have had Mass where there is no music, no audible prayers and no vernacular readings. That is perfectly licit. But there is the problem I mentioned. That Mass can be perceived almost entirely on a visual basis.But how can you participate in the liturgy of the word if you can’t hear or read the word? And join with the priest in asking forgiveness for our sins, praising God in the Gloria, attend attentively to the consecration, pray for the living and the dead, etc. if you don’t even know when he is doing those things? Finding a priest who speaks fairly loudly and sitting up front would be my best suggestions. There must be missals in braille.
Of course, you can attend mass without this if you must, but why would you want to do so if there is an alternative? The mass should be communal worship in which we each join individually.
Really? Are you sure? I think what they banned was an explicitly vernacular only missal which was written with the goal of having the Mass said in the vernacular. The latin mass, (in the 19th and 20th centuries atleast) usually supplied at minimum a translation of the ordinaries and the Canon.Everything you said is true and I don’t disagree.
Pope Leo XIII taught that the faithful could say the rosary during Mass (since they couldn’t hear or understand the priest anyway).
This rendered the Mass entirely a “visual experience”. Certainly, I’ve been to many silent low Masses with no sermon or English readings.
The experience is silence and whatever visual cues one can find.
How does someone who is totally blind participate in that?
Basically, you go and offer private prayers or whatever kind of prayer you want.
True in the past people not only couldn’t read the missal, but they were forbidden from having hand-missals with vernacular translations (the Holy See forbade translations of the Mass).
This make sense and is consistent. If the Latin language was necessary to preserve doctrine then it doesn’t make sense for people to read the vernacular.
Prior to Pope Leo XIII’s ruling, vernacular translations of the missal were not permitted.Really? Are you sure? I think what they banned was an explicitly vernacular only missal which was written with the goal of having the Mass said in the vernacular. The latin mass, (in the 19th and 20th centuries atleast) usually supplied at minimum a translation of the ordinaries and the Canon.