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I just want to add these to illuminate Joe1:
Since it is just a theory, there is nothing to reconcile to. Evolution theory is still far from validation. it is not a natural law such as Law of Thermodynamics.
Eulogies and last additions obviously can not be written by Moses himself. But as long as that someone is authorized by Moses to put his thoughts in writing is considered as from Moses himself. Even in today’s world as long as a message is from the office of the CEO, the message is considered as from him although he may not have written it himself but by an approved source, typically the secretary or in ancient times an amanuensis. It is not uncommon to ask someone to add last sentences after they are gone. Moses knew when he is going and he made those preparations in Deu 31. Obviously Deu 34 can not be written by him.
Gen 1:21 and Gen 1:24 all came before Man. i.e. sea monsters and beasts. In fact after creation of Man, God rested.
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Vico
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Some living things change over the generations, an adaptation that produces a new variety, such as the Italian wall lizard.I just want to add these to illuminate Joe1:
Vico:
Since it is just a theory, there is nothing to reconcile to. Evolution theory is still far from validation. it is not a natural law such as Law of Thermodynamics.
Eulogies and last additions obviously can not be written by Moses himself. But as long as that someone is authorized by Moses to put his thoughts in writing is considered as from Moses himself. Even in today’s world as long as a message is from the office of the CEO, the message is considered as from him although he may not have written it himself but by an approved source, typically the secretary or in ancient times an amanuensis. It is not uncommon to ask someone to add last sentences after they are gone. Moses knew when he is going and he made those preparations in Deu 31. Obviously Deu 34 can not be written by him.
Gen 1:21 and Gen 1:24 all came before Man. i.e. sea monsters and beasts. In fact after creation of Man, God rested.
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ericc
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Obviously God intend his Creation to continue to function e.g. adapting to environment pressures or breeders after he is done with the major works.
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Roseeurekacross
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Joe I am not going to wade through the answers.
God is the author of creation and also sustains that creation. Therefore God sustained all that has ever existed and will ever exist, including dinosaurs.
Catholics should be reading the Old Testament
- In a historic- critical way- it is written in Ancient Near East and Greco-roman cultural lenses.
We see Abraham as the first historical figure. We read Noah and the first Covenant between God and all creatures , through Noah. The second Covenants between God and us is given to historical Abraham, the Third covenant to Moses in the Ten Commandments . Jesus then gives us the new Covenant.
We read how God wants us to know He created life, ordered His everything, and Sustains life in Genesis.
We know, through Dei verbum that there are inconsistencies and things in the Old Testament, things we would question, like slaughter and war. We know God is speaking to us through these books though.
- The Old Testament is a sacred text of God’s word in human language, what God wanted us to know for salvation history.
- We read the Old Testament as Christocentric. It is written, every word, authored in what God wants us to know for salvation history, to prepare the peoples for the appearance of Jesus and the new covenant between God and His Chosen, in the Paschal Mysteries.
- We read the Old Testament as books of wisdom, of daily life, hymn books, prayer books, psalms of struggle and reaffirming whatever happens, God is with us.
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People go all creation and forget , its not just creation, it’s sustaining and ordering that creation. Even now, till the end.
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Yes, that is why one can say that God created dinosaurs, but without certainty of the time that the dinosaur was created relative to man.Vico:
Obviously God intend his Creation to continue to function e.g. adapting to environment pressures or breeders after he is done with the major works.
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AlNg
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Did the flood cover the whole earth or was it regional, situated near present-day Armenia or Turkey?
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ericc
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No idea. The Bible is not intended to be a geography book.
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AlNg
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But doesn’t Genesis say that every living creature was blotted out by the flood?
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Vico
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Genesis 6ericc:
But doesn’t Genesis say that every living creature was blotted out by the flood?
National Geographic has an article on this topic and the theory, which has some evidence, that the melting glaciers from the last ice age raised the water level in the Mediterranean and flooded the Black Sea area through the Bosporus. There is evidence of a former shoreline 400 feet below the current level of the Black Sea and a flood about 5,000 B.C., said Robert Ballard, underwater archaeologist, in 2012. He thinks he found evidence of a massive flood that submerged a vast geographical area, not claiming it to be Noah’s Flood.
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So the flood was regional and not global?
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Vico
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Local per the article. If all the glaciers melted the sea levels would rise by 70 meters (230 feet) worldwide.Vico:
So the flood was regional and not global?
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AlNg
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This is where some will see the contradiction, since the Genesis account says that all living creatures on earth were killed by the flood (except for those on the Ark). Also, even if the flood were global, I am not sure about fish, sea mammals and insects being wiped out?
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Vico
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Yes, per the Hebrew word eh’-rets used in Genesis 6 for earth means (Strong’s Concordance):Vico:
This is where some will see the contradiction, since the Genesis account says that all living creatures on earth were killed by the flood (except for those on the Ark). Also, even if the flood were global, I am not sure about fish, sea mammals and insects being wiped out?
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Roseeurekacross
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Noah is awesome. As is the first Covenant God gave us, through Noah.
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ericc
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Didn’t include fishes and aquatic animals nor crustaceans etc.
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Roseeurekacross
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None of the sea creatures would have survived the flood. The oceans would become fresh water
Unless God wanted them to survive
Unless God wanted them to survive
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There are about 8.7 million spices worldwide. Between 1-2 million of them are animal. I don’t think that with the current technology we can build a ship which can accommodate 1-2 million animals.
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AlNg
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Even if the flood were regional and not global?
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Vico
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“Every being on earth”. The word translated to earth can mean: district, region.
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