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Canuck000
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This year, Dec.8, Immaculate Conception Holy Day is on a Sun. Is the Holy Day of Obligation on the Sun also? Or how does this work. Excuse my ignorance, I’m a new Catholic as of Easter 2013.
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bsroufek
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The Saturday vigil counts for Sunday obligation, even when a particular Sunday is a Holy Day (actually all Sundays are Holy Days).
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Canuck000
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Thanks, I always attend the Sat. vigil and Sun morning, but I was wondering if “another Holy Day” was designated for the Holy Day of Immaculate Conception day since it falls on a Sun (Holy Day), this year.
So, there is not another day designated?, besides?.
Now I’m confusing myself.
So, there is not another day designated?, besides?.
Now I’m confusing myself.
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bsroufek
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No, we don’t hold another feast day (during the week?) because the solemnity falls on Sunday.Thanks, I always attend the Sat. vigil and Sun morning, but I was wondering if “another Holy Day” was designated for the Holy Day of Immaculate Conception day since it falls on a Sun (Holy Day), this year.
So, there is not another day designated?, besides?.
Now I’m confusing myself.
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marty1818
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The celebration of the Immaculate Conception is moved to Monday Dec. 9th. Since Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception is the patroness of the U.S. it is always a Holy Day of Obligation and is never abrogated no matter what day of the week it falls on. So you will need to go to mass for the 2nd Sunday of Advent as well as mass for the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception.
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marytk
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Yes if it wasn’t during Advent, the Feast of the Immaculate Conception would over ride a Sunday of Ordinary time. During Lent and Advent the celebration of Solemnities is moved. (Like St Joseph and the Annunciation during Lent) And as said above since this is our patroness it will still be a day of obligation.
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thistle
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Here in the Philippines when Dec 8 falls on a Sunday then both Sunday and Immaculate Conception obligations are on the same day. Going to a separate Mass is not required.
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SuscipeMeDomine
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Monday, December 9 is not a holy day of obligation in the United States.
This is from the USCCB liturgical calendar:
- Since December 8, 2013, is the Third Sunday of Advent, the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary is transferred to Monday, December 9, 2013. The obligation to attend Mass, however, does not transfer. The optional memorial of Saint Juan Diego Cuauhtlatoatzin, December 9, is omitted this year.
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Canuck000
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Some great answers here, and I thank you all. I’m still learning so much.
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liturgyluver
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No - it is not a day of obligation this year.
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marty1818
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I stand corrected. Should say Second Sunday of Advent.
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1ke
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In the Church, feast days have a hierarchy-- called a rank.
IC is a solemnity. A solemnity would outrank a Sunday of Ordinary Time, but not a Sunday of Advent, Lent, or Easter.
In many cases when that happens, the feast is simply not celebrated that year. Important solmenities can be transferred to another day to be celebrated with their proper readings, etc.
That is what happens this year with IC. IC is transferred to Dec 9, displacing the feast or optional memorial that would normally be on Dec 9. However, the obligation to attend Mass is not transferred.
So, if you want to attend Mass for IC, it will be celebrated on Dec 9 probalby at whatever normal daily mass time your parish has.
Honestly, it takes a pretty big scorecard to understand all the intricacies of the ranking of feasts. So, I just look every year on the Liturgical Calendar on the USCCB website where they have it all sorted out for me!
Are you in the US or Canada? IC is not a day of obligation in Canada.
IC is a solemnity. A solemnity would outrank a Sunday of Ordinary Time, but not a Sunday of Advent, Lent, or Easter.
In many cases when that happens, the feast is simply not celebrated that year. Important solmenities can be transferred to another day to be celebrated with their proper readings, etc.
That is what happens this year with IC. IC is transferred to Dec 9, displacing the feast or optional memorial that would normally be on Dec 9. However, the obligation to attend Mass is not transferred.
So, if you want to attend Mass for IC, it will be celebrated on Dec 9 probalby at whatever normal daily mass time your parish has.
Honestly, it takes a pretty big scorecard to understand all the intricacies of the ranking of feasts. So, I just look every year on the Liturgical Calendar on the USCCB website where they have it all sorted out for me!
Are you in the US or Canada? IC is not a day of obligation in Canada.
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twf
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Good point about Canada. The IC of OL is NEVER a day of obligation in Canada - only Christmas and Mary, Mother of God (Jan 1) are, with Epiphany, Corpus Christi, and a couple others moved to the nearest Sunday instead. I find that many posters assume that CAF is an Americans-only club and respond accordinglyIn the Church, feast days have a hierarchy-- called a rank.
IC is a solemnity. A solemnity would outrank a Sunday of Ordinary Time, but not a Sunday of Advent, Lent, or Easter.
In many cases when that happens, the feast is simply not celebrated that year. Important solmenities can be transferred to another day to be celebrated with their proper readings, etc.
That is what happens this year with IC. IC is transferred to Dec 9, displacing the feast or optional memorial that would normally be on Dec 9. However, the obligation to attend Mass is not transferred.
So, if you want to attend Mass for IC, it will be celebrated on Dec 9 probalby at whatever normal daily mass time your parish has.
Honestly, it takes a pretty big scorecard to understand all the intricacies of the ranking of feasts. So, I just look every year on the Liturgical Calendar on the USCCB website where they have it all sorted out for me!
Are you in the US or Canada? IC is not a day of obligation in Canada.
.From your username, are you living in Canada? If so, Dec 8 is not a Holy Day of Obligation ever.
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Chatter163
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A feast or memorial may be skipped on a given year when it falls on a a Sunday, but never a solemnity, which is always transferred to to the first free (i.e., unimpeded) day. Frequently the Solemnities of St. Joseph and the Annunciation are impeded by Holy and/or Easter Weeks, and are transferred beyond the Easter Octave. This sometimes means a delay of two weeks in the celebration of the solemnity, but it is never skipped.
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1ke
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As I said, feast days can be skipped, solemnities are transfered.
I was talking generally about feast days. Solmenities are a specific kind of feast day, they are important, therefore they are transfered… I believe in my post I said can, but that really should have said “are”.
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VivienneJ
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Indeed! I have even been taken to task when I have suggested that responses to this type of question need to be modified by the statement that this is coming from a USA perspective and people in other countries need to check what their bishops have decided. (In neither of the countries where I attend Mass is Immaculate Conception a HDO. and in checking to answer this question, I was reminded that neither is All Saints Day - that would be Arabia and South Africa, for the sake of anyone from anywhere else+.)I find that many posters assume that CAF is an Americans-only club and respond accordingly
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yaycatholic
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In Spain this year, they’re celebrating the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception on December 8 itself since the Episcopal Conference got permission from the Congregation of Divine Worship; and the I.C. is also Spain’s Patroness (along with S. James the Great).
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MissRose73
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In the USA, this is our Patronal Feast Day, it is a holy day regardless if it has to be move to a different day or not. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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