Immaculate Conception

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Two questions:
  1. God granted Mary a special privilege in the Immaculate Conception. He allowed her to be conceived without the stain of original sin. Why doesn’t God do this for everyone?
  2. Also, another question: Mary was conceived without original sin. Does she also need salvation? Is Jesus also her savior?
 
Two questions:
  1. God granted Mary a special privilege in the Immaculate Conception. He allowed her to be conceived without the stain of original sin. Why doesn’t God do this for everyone?
Then there would be no need for a Savior and the relationship of God and man would be very different.
  1. Also, another question: Mary was conceived without original sin. Does she also need salvation? Is Jesus also her savior?
Yes; She said so Herself.

The difference is when She was saved: at the moment of conception.
 
Two questions:
  1. God granted Mary a special privilege in the Immaculate Conception. He allowed her to be conceived without the stain of original sin. Why doesn’t God do this for everyone?
  2. Also, another question: Mary was conceived without original sin. Does she also need salvation? Is Jesus also her savior?
  1. Only God knows.
  2. Yes and yes.
 
Your answer to both questions is slightly contradictory, in that for the first answer, none of us would need a savior for precisely the same reason that the Blessed Mother does in your second answer. I would say that for the first question the reason that the Blessed Mother is given this grace distinct from us, is because it shows us first a greater understanding of who Christ is in relation to us, and by presenting Christ in the pure vessel of the Blessed Mother, he shows us that He is the high priest, the Word of God, and the Bread of Life. Just as the ark of the covenant (think Indiana Jones) contained the ten commandments or the Word of God on the stone tablets, the staff of Aaron, and an urn containing the mysterious Manna from Heaven, the New Ark contains the fulfillment of those types–God in the flesh, so to speak. The second reason is because it shows us a greater understanding of who Mary is in relation to Christ. She is the Ark of the New Covenant. In ancient Isreal, there was simply nothing holier than this one vessel, the Ark of the Covenqnt. It was where God himself resided by overshadowing the Ark, just as the Archangel Gabriel foretold the overshadowing of Mary by the Holy Spirit, or as David exclaimed in 2 Samuel, “how is it that the Ark should come unto me,” Elizabeth in the Gospel of Luke exclaimed, “how is it that the Mother of my Lord should come unto me”. Even the same Greek word for “exclaimed” is used in both 2 Samuel and Luke, and is used only four other times (anophoneo) in the old testament and in each case was used in praise and shouting before the Ark of the Covenant by the Levites, or priestly class. It is worth noting that Elizabeth in her “shouting praise” (once again, anophoneo) of Mary is, in fact, a Levite as well.

For your second question, the answer is yes of course, since Mary herself exclaims as much from the Magnificat, taken from the gospel of Luke, “my spirit rejoices in God my Savior”. John Dun Scotus, a catholic theologian and philosopher from the 13th century was one the first to develop the theology that while Mary was without sin, she would still be in need of a savior by explaining that while one might be saved from a pit after having fallen in, Mary singularly was saved from the pit before having fallen in. In both cases, there is need of a Savior, but only the latter was free from the pit or “stain” of sin.
 
Your answer to both questions is slightly contradictory, in that for the first answer, none of us would need a savior for precisely the same reason that the Blessed Mother does in your second answer. I would say that for the first question the reason that the Blessed Mother is given this grace distinct from us, is because it shows us first a greater understanding of who Christ is in relation to us, and by presenting Christ in the pure vessel of the Blessed Mother, he shows us that He is the high priest, the Word of God, and the Bread of Life. Just as the ark of the covenant (think Indiana Jones) contained the ten commandments or the Word of God on the stone tablets, the staff of Aaron, and an urn containing the mysterious Manna from Heaven, the New Ark contains the fulfillment of those types–God in the flesh, so to speak. The second reason is because it shows us a greater understanding of who Mary is in relation to Christ. She is the Ark of the New Covenant. In ancient Isreal, there was simply nothing holier than this one vessel, the Ark of the Covenqnt. It was where God himself resided by overshadowing the Ark, just as the Archangel Gabriel foretold the overshadowing of Mary by the Holy Spirit, or as David exclaimed in 2 Samuel, “how is it that the Ark should come unto me,” Elizabeth in the Gospel of Luke exclaimed, “how is it that the Mother of my Lord should come unto me”. Even the same Greek word for “exclaimed” is used in both 2 Samuel and Luke, and is used only four other times (anophoneo) in the old testament and in each case was used in praise and shouting before the Ark of the Covenant by the Levites, or priestly class. It is worth noting that Elizabeth in her “shouting praise” (once again, anophoneo) of Mary is, in fact, a Levite as well.

For your second question, the answer is yes of course, since Mary herself exclaims as much from the Magnificat, taken from the gospel of Luke, “my spirit rejoices in God my Savior”. John Dun Scotus, a catholic theologian and philosopher from the 13th century was one the first to develop the theology that while Mary was without sin, she would still be in need of a savior by explaining that while one might be saved from a pit after having fallen in, Mary singularly was saved from the pit before having fallen in. In both cases, there is need of a Savior, but only the latter was free from the pit or “stain” of sin.
Who are you replying to?
 
Two questions:
  1. God granted Mary a special privilege in the Immaculate Conception. He allowed her to be conceived without the stain of original sin. Why doesn’t God do this for everyone?
  2. Also, another question: Mary was conceived without original sin. Does she also need salvation? Is Jesus also her savior?
Every sin is a betrayal of God who loves us.

There are two ways God can be your savior. He can forgive your sin by grace. He can protect you from sin by grace. In your life God probably does both. Mary never betrayed her Son. God saved her by protecting her from sin.

The rest of us are sinful. Those who say they have a clear conscience suffer from poor memory.
 
But the OP didn’t answer questions. The reply referred to answers, not questions. Right?
OK, I see it follows your 1st. post & now I understand why you might question who he was responding to. But, having reviewed the post again, I still think he was referring to the OP 🤷
 
OK, I see it follows your 1st. post & now I understand why you might question who he was responding to. But, having reviewed the post again, I still think he was referring to the OP 🤷
The OP asked two questions.

The OP did not respond to those questions.

jbecknell began his/her response with “your answer to both questions is slightly contradictory…”

How could someone asking two questions, with no response, be considered to having an answer that is slightly contradictory?
 
Who are you replying to?
My apologies for not using quotes to make my response a bit clearer. Cat Herder attempted to respond to the questions that the original poster asked. I was responding to Cat Herders’s answers while at the same time attempting to offer my own answers to the original post.
 
My apologies for not using quotes to make my response a bit clearer. Cat Herder attempted to respond to the questions that the original poster asked. I was responding to Cat Herders’s answers while at the same time attempting to offer my own answers to the original post.
Thanks! Appreciate the clarification! Sincerely.

As Cat Herder noted, Mary needed salvation as much of any of us.

Does that help?
 
Thanks! Appreciate the clarification! Sincerely.

As Cat Herder noted, Mary needed salvation as much of any of us.

Does that help?
Thanks for your response. In Cat herder’s answers, she mentioned that we would not need a savior if all were saved by being immaculately conceived in her first answer, while mentioning that Mary, while being immaculately conceived, did need a savior in her second answer. It sounded a bit confusing and i just sought to clarify it for the original poster. The Blessed Mother was saved in her perfection, while we were saved in our imperfection. And that Savior is the same for both of us, our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
Thanks for your response. In Cat herder’s answers, she mentioned that we would not need a savior if all were saved by being immaculately conceived in her first answer, while mentioning that Mary, while being immaculately conceived, did need a savior in her second answer. It sounded a bit confusing and i just sought to clarify it for the original poster. The Blessed Mother was saved in her perfection, while we were saved in our imperfection. And that Savior is the same for both of us, our Lord Jesus Christ.
Mary, like all humans, requires Christ for salvation. That’s what the Catholic Church teaches.
 
Why must we question these truths ? God can do anything. Isn’t that enough to accept it ?

Kyrie eleison
 
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