Immediate end of the world for Paul?

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Is there an alternative view to the one that says that Jesus and Paul believed in an immediate end of the world? I think Jesus’ words can be explained by the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 but what about Paul’s words to the Thessalonians and Corinthians that seem to imply they were expecting Jesus to come back very soon… were they really wrong? If someone knows an article that offers an explanation I’d appreciate the link…
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Hi Fineca,

There is a lot of scriptural evidence to show that the early Christians believed that Jesus would be back in a relatively short time. He had told the apostles that he would come like a thief in the night, but I suppose that they found it very hard to believe that that could mean within hundreds or thousands of years. They had known Jesus face to face, and they so longed for Him that they couldn’t believe that he would make them wait very long.

It is the one thing that they did not know. We do not know either, but the end of the world could come any time. Hence the urgency of evangelization that the Church is always conscious of.

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how do we understand this:
Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. Luke 21:31

Usually Jesus’ words in the whole discourse are interpreted to mean the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in AD 70, but if at that time the kingdom of God had come near, then the kingdom couldn’t be the Church or the end of the world because the Church had already started 40 years before and well the end hasn’t come yet…

What is the kingdom of God here?
 
I would say that the kingdom here (Luke 21:31) refers to the end… and that the nearness can be understood in this way: when someone gets very sick or is badly injured and then recovers, that person may say that they were “near” to death. The reality is that, in surviving, they are nearer now –temporally speaking – than they were then. Similarly, Jesus’ words can be understood to mean that the destruction of Jerusalem brought those who experienced it to an experience of judgment that is “near” or approximate in degree to what will be endured by all of us when we witness the final judgment and see the destruction of God’s enemies. And so the nearness of the kingdom in this verse could be understood as referring to the “nearness” or similarity of experience.

That said, there is also an element of timing being discussed in these verses, and that would be the real thrust of Jesus’ words. But I would say that the timing aspect has to do with the implication found in the “sign” of the destruction of the temple, and not with the destruction of the temple itself. In other words, the destruction of the temple is a picture of the final display of God’s wrath against all ungodliness. And so the kingdom did not come soon after the destruction of the temple because the kingdom will come soon after that which the destruction of the temple points to – i.e., the final judgment – comes to pass.

I would take Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians as referring to individual believers. Our time is always very short. “For”, as James says, “you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes” (4:14). With every passing day, we can say with Paul, “salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed” (Rom. 13:11). So when Paul refers to the “appointed time” in 1 Cor. 7:29, I take it to mean the day of my - or anybody’s - death. And his words following where he says, “the present form of this world is passing away” (1 Cor. 7:31), I would take as a statement of fact pertaining to the nature of this world, not as a statement about how soon it is until the end of the world takes place. And this agrees with John where he tells us not to love the things in the world and writes, “the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever” (1 John 2:17). Not that it will happen very soon, but that the things of this world are of a transient nature.

Paul writes in 1 Thessalonians that “we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord…” (4:15). I would take this as referring to how things will take place when the Lord comes, but not as a statement referring to when the Lord will come. Otherwise, one would have to conclude that Paul knew for a certainty that he would still be alive when Christ returned, because he said “we” which always includes “me.” 🙂 But Paul, as with all believers in the Lord, does not know when Jesus will return. This is made clear by his discussion about his own death in Philippians chapter 1: “Yet which I shall choose I cannot tell” (v. 22). So I would take the “we” as referring to those Christians who are alive when Jesus returns, whenever that may be, which does not necessarily include any of the Christians that this letter was addressed to, although it could have. As the previous poster mentioned, Jesus will return like “a thief in the night” (1 Thess. 5:2), and no one knows the day or the hour (cf. Mark 13:32). So let us make the “best use of the time, because the days are evil” (Eph. 5:16) and “Stay awake” (Mark 13:32; 1 Thess. 5:6).

What do you think? As Augustine once wrote to Jerome: “If you know any better way, my beloved brother [or sister], in which it can be explained, I beseech you by the Lord to favor us by communicating to us your exposition” (Letter 132).

May the Lord be with you,
Pete
 
how do we understand this:
Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. Luke 21:31

Usually Jesus’ words in the whole discourse are interpreted to mean the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in AD 70, but if at that time the kingdom of God had come near, then the kingdom couldn’t be the Church or the end of the world because the Church had already started 40 years before and well the end hasn’t come yet…

What is the kingdom of God here?
Two questions are being asked by the disciples. Luke places the two questions and answers in different chapters. 1 When will the Temple be destroyed? and 2 What will be the sign of Your coming at the close of the age?

Luke 21:5-33 answers the first and Luke 17:22-37 answer the second.

So, to answer your question. Yes the church had already been around, but before 70 A.D. Christianity was assumed by most in the ancient world to be a small sect within Judaism. The Temple’s destruction cleared the way for the Church’s growth. Publicly the Kingdom could now be recognized.
 
There were false teachers in Paul’s day that claimed that the second coming had already occurred which is the one error that Paul had to deal with in his letters. On the other side, he did not want believers to become slack and unprepared to meet Jesus either at the second coming or at death. So, he was teaching an urgenecy in our daily walk with the Lord, but was correcting the claim that Jesus had already returned a second time.

Second, Paul taught christians be ready, when Jesus did return because only the Father knows when that will be. Jesus himself said he did not know when it will be.

Peter points out in 2 Peter 3, that his coming will be sudden, and we should live as not to be caught asleep. And he taught that God is NOT slow about his promises.

2 Peter 3
The Day of the Lord
1Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking. 2I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.
3First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

8But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.[a]

11Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.**That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.

14So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position. 18But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.**
 
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