Immigrant-Bashers Will Lose the Evangelical Vote

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Imagine that an American politician, competing with a dozen other candidates for media attention, launched his presidential campaign by describing the nation’s evangelical Christians as a problem: “They’re charlatans who raise money from poor people to spend on private jets,” he says. “They have multiple affairs and sexually abuse children. And, some, I assume, are good people.”
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Millions of evangelical Christians would be fighting mad, and rightly so. While there have been a few, highly publicized cases of professing evangelicals committing these sins and crimes, the overwhelming majority have not. This charge against believers would be what the Bible calls bearing false witness, and what the world calls slander.
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wsj.com/articles/immigrant-bashers-will-lose-the-evangelical-vote-1437088338
 
Evangelicals don’t kill people every month.

Truths, I guess the Wall Street Journal and other media don’t want us to consider.

The authors no doubt, don’t understand what Trump said.
DONALD TRUMP: When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us economically.
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The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems.
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Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
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But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.
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It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably— probably— from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.
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realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/06/16/trump_mexico_not_sending_us_their_best_criminals_drug_dealers_and_rapists_are_crossing_border.html
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The authors continue the leftist pattern of conflating legal and illegal immigration as the same thing. They are not.
 
Deacon Jeff, I have been trying to find more on this to understand the history of it better. With your background, can you give some information on the history? I know there was something back in 1875 that limited some “undesirable” immigrants. I also thought there were some acts in the late 1700’s too, but I don’t know much about what those are.

Thanks,

John
 
And that was many years ago. I doubt if the history of Catholicism is spotless as well.

Thomas Jefferson has in fact, words regarding this, doesn’t he.

Polish, Irish and Italian immigrants were not killing American citizens regularly.

Oh, and illegals, where ever they are from have been polled, and their views are,

wait for it,

oh, yeah,

LEFT OF OCCUPATION WALLSTREET.

Great for the Pro-Life movement, isn’t it?? 🤷
 
Don’t forget that until ‘fairly’ recently, only “white” people were allowed full citizenship:
nytimes.com/2013/07/07/sunday-review/has-caucasian-lost-its-meaning.html?_r=0

“The Supreme Court, which can be more colloquial, has used the term in only 64 cases, including a pair from the 1920s that reveal its limitations. In one, the court ruled that a Japanese man could not become a citizen because, although he may have been light-skinned, he was not Caucasian. In the other, an Indian was told that he could not become a citizen because, although he may have been technically Caucasian, he was certainly not white. (A similar debate erupted more recently when the Tsarnaev brothers, believed to be responsible for the Boston Marathon bombing, were revealed to be Muslims from the Caucasus.)”

See Ozawa v. United States (1922):
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozawa_v._United_States
&
United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind (1923): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Bhagat_Singh_Thind

for further info
 
Leaving politics aside, I think there needs to be some laws with regards to immigration. Do I agree with the quota’s of the past… no. You mention that the Irish were some of those who they wanted to keep out, and I don’t disagree with that, but I do believe they and the Italians had some of the higher quota’s. I can’t find the source of where I saw that, but I will look for it (not that it really matters as I agree with your premise).

I think we should have some sort of common sense approach to immigration though. Yes, we are a nation built on immigrants. More than half of my Mom’s family died in Hungary during the 1950’s because they could not get into the US. I totally get why Latino’s would want to come to the USA… if I was in their shoes, I would do the same thing.

The common sense approach though I think we need to look at is making sure we are not letting into our country law breakers. How do we do that? I don’t know, but I have no issues with people who want to come here and live peacefully. Those who only want to come here and break the laws we need to find a way to keep out. Nobody wants them destroying where we live. Is that un-Christian to say that…?

Peace,

John
 
PaulfromIowa said:
The authors continue the leftist pattern of conflating legal and illegal immigration as the same thing. They are not.
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Since the leftist base will believe anything they’re told by the leadership, that leadership will continue to lie and mislead.
 
Also, for clarification, when you say the Know Nothing Party, you are referencing the old “Native American Party” which later became the “American Party” and I think fell apart back sometime in the 1860’s or 1870’s correct?

As far as the Four Pinocchio’s, The WP is a bit liberal leaning (and is there a paper that is totally fair an unbalanced… ha-ha… if you know of one, pleas let me know), but I do agree that Sen Sessions needs to state his sources for coming up with his statement. Are illegals committing crimes… sure they are; to what level though, I don’t fully know and I don’t know if anyone really knows.

Peace,

John
 
There are no rights after the right to life, the whole country does not need to be the mirror image of California.
 
Evangelicals are also our brothers in the pro-life movement and, like the Catholic Church, they feed the hungry every day in their charities.
 
So were the views of the Italian, Irish and Polish immigrants of the last century. Catholics were all pretty much democrats back then. Gee, you sound a lot like the APA. So do you advocate only allowing politically “conservative” immigrants in? Cause that is what the APA/KKK/Know Nothing Party wanted - (name removed by moderator)
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Sorry, I don’t equate 55,000,000 abortions of the unborn equal to the labor movement and Unions.

Indeed, times have changed.

As black prolifer Rev. Childress says, more blacks are killed in 3 days of abortion than in the entire history of the KKK.

Evangelicals are against abortion.
 
Who said anything about forbidding immigration? There are lots of people who would love to immigrate here but they are doing it the legal way. Why does someone who walks over the border have more right to immigrate than the ones who are honest in the law and waiting for several decades?

It seems like we are rewarding law breaking.
 
A beautiful post, you just summed up everything I wanted to say. Thank you!
 
We all know there are lots of Evangelical Spanish-speaking Churches, I’m certainly not sure about saying all of a sudden KKK, No-Nothing Party, Evangelicals. This may be an unfair comparison. Did they make up those old organizations? Yes, they did.
 
If you don’t have the right to life, there are none after that? What are you talking about? “Burial rights”???

I see nowhere that that is “anti-Catholic” nor “anti-American”.

The right to life supersedes all others, there is a famous expression, maybe I botched the quotation.
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Dem Co-Chair of Pro-Life Caucus:** ‘Without the Right to Life, No Other Rights Can Exist’****
cnsnews.com/news/article/dem-co-chair-pro-life-caucus-without-right-life-no-other-rights-can-exist
 
All countries have border laws, it is absurd to think differently.
 
(name removed by moderator), I repeat:

Sorry**, I don’t equate 55,000,000 abortions of the unborn equal to (supporting) the labor movement and Unions.** This is what Poles, Italians and Irish did in the past in supporting a liberal agenda.

Indeed, times have changed.

As black prolifer Rev. Childress says, more blacks are killed in 3 days of abortion than in the entire history of the KKK.

Evangelicals are against abortion.

I believe Jesus would not have us be so critical of our Christian brothers.
 
The Catholic Catechism instructs the faithful that good government has two duties, both of which must be carried out and neither of which can be ignored. The first duty is to welcome the foreigner out of charity and respect for the human person. Persons have the right to immigrate and thus government must accommodate this right to the greatest extent possible, especially financially blessed nations: “The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.” Catholic Catechism, 2241.
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The second duty is to secure one’s border and enforce the law for the sake of the common good. Sovereign nations have the right to enforce their laws and all persons must respect the legitimate exercise of this right: “Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants’ duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.” Catholic Catechism, 2241.
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usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/immigration/churchteachingonimmigrationreform.cfm
 
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