Immorality vs. Illegality

[Michaelo]

Does immorality warrant illegality?

 

[ConallCernach]

Well, missing the Sunday obligation is immoral. But the Catholic Church also supports the divide between Church and State. So I think that no is the answer. However, morality triumphs legality in terms of importance (think Nuremburg trials).

I could very likely be wrong though.

-Pax

 

[Michaelo]

So where do we draw the line with regards to when immorality actually does warrant illegality?

 

[ConallCernach]

That may be left for the State. Like, landlord’s (State) make the rules for the tenants. It’d be nice if those rules also obliged with the municipalities rules (in this case God’s laws), but I think that judging the landlord is a job of the municipality. Here would be how I would look at how things are to be addressed:

But there may be a few different cases:

Laws may also cover things that are immoral to do, then you have a double whammy.

Laws may permit things that are immoral to do, then you still shouldn’t do it.

Laws may try to force you to do things that are immoral, you still shouldn’t do it.

Pax

 

[SteveGC]

So where do we draw the line with regards to when immorality actually does warrant illegality?

The line should be drawn such that illegality is never separated from immorality.

The problem is, one is of God (morals), and the other is of man (laws).

Until men (and women) of law-making power turn perpetually toward God for all their understanding, this line will never be drawn as it should.

And so we pray…

God Bless

 

[linuxgeek71]

Well, missing the Sunday obligation is immoral. But the Catholic Church also supports the divide between Church and State.

No, the state is subject to the Church precisely because moral law must be a guide for state law. State law should be designed in such a way to help people make the correct choices and build moral fiber. That said, making every moral law into a state law is probably not the correct way. There must be some room to dissent, or you will have problems. There must also be left room for private belief, though not necessarily public action on such beliefs.

 

[DavidFilmer]

Does immorality warrant illegality?

That’s a strange question. Does immorality warrant (ie, sanction or justify) illegality? I could distill that question as: Does wrong justify wrong? Is someone justified in doing illegal actions because they are immoral?

Is that what you really meant to ask?

 

[IrishJoe]

no but one would be justified to do moral things that were illegal. However society doesn’t work like that as we all are supposed to have to agree on things. Rality is that politicians in ivory towers make the rules

 

[ConallCernach]

No, the state is subject to the Church precisely because moral law must be a guide for state law. State law should be designed in such a way to help people make the correct choices and build moral fiber. That said, making every moral law into a state law is probably not the correct way. There must be some room to dissent, or you will have problems. There must also be left room for private belief, though not necessarily public action on such beliefs.

That’s more or less what I was referring to.

Pax