Immortality in this life?

[holyghost]

i think the reason that carnal immortality appeals to me (and others) more than spiritual immortality is because here in this life we still have our own will and theres dynamism, but when we get to Heaven or Hell its going to be static and we will all have to give up our will. something about finding our own happiness here in this life has an appeal. the thought of totally submitting to God in Heaven (or being a prisoner in hell) is scary.
and this world wouldnt be so bad to live in eternally if it werent for all the evil.

With all due respect: Yuck! Earthly immortality is sooo not appealing to me! Sounds like a lot of confinement and loneliness actually. I’d be longing to escape if I were stuck here forever, especially knowing that there was something bigger and better, more spiritual than me

 

[GEddie]

With all due respect: Yuck! Earthly immortality is sooo not appealing to me! Sounds like a lot of confinement and loneliness actually. I’d be longing to escape if I were stuck here forever, especially knowing that there was something bigger and better, more spiritual than me

??? I don’t get it.

You would still be you even after death. Just dead.

ICXC NIKA

 

[holyghost]

??? I don’t get it.

You would still be you even after death. Just dead.

ICXC NIKA

Are you forgetting that there’s life after death? Sigh

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Same reason the Second Person of the Trinity was. So interested, in fact, that He became Incarnate. Love. The point is getting all of us here to there. The Kingdom of God is among us. Those in the Kingdom of God are among us. When you pass, you will still be among us.

But we are not the Second Person of the Trinity. Besides, as someone else rightly pointed out, I’d rather remain in my body than observe the world through the unknown and intangible eyes of the spirit. The reason? Again, because the latter bears a level of detachment that cannot be denied.

The point is, what if I’m not ready to go from ‘here to there’? There is still so much I want to know ‘here’ from the perspective of one who still lives ‘here’.

Glory be to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

There is no end. And you will know it all. You already do, you just have trouble accessing it here.

Ah yes. I’ve always did wonder about that. Yet, why is it so many people, Catholics even, who are so hell-bent on watching out for the end of days?

Honestly, it’s just made me more curious. Even if the world wouldn’t end, how far do you think mankind would have gone one more millennium from now?

 

[Julia_Mae]

But we are not the Second Person of the Trinity. Besides, as someone else rightly pointed out, I’d rather remain in my body than observe the world through the unknown and intangible eyes of the spirit. The reason? Again, because the latter bears a level of detachment that cannot be denied.

LOL! Wat? Level of detachment? Yes, in fact, in a way that mystics understand, you are, will be, oned with God. But you think that means detachment? That’s the complete opposite of what is Real.

The point is, what if I’m not ready to go from ‘here to there’?

Which you? The you that didn’t realize the nature of things and thinks this is either all there is or what is next could ever be somehow lesser? Or the true self, the spirit that is already longing for Home?

Ah yes. I’ve always did wonder about that. Yet, why is it so many people, Catholics even, who are so hell-bent on watching out for the end of days?

I haven no idea what you are talking about or why you think I would be “watching out” for the “end of days” when I just quoted the Glory Be that says world without end. You were the one who said you wanted to stay until the end as if there were such a thing, I didn’t bring it up.

Honestly, it’s just made me more curious.

Then you’ll be delighted to know you will not be missing a thing in your view from the Afterlife.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

LOL! Wat? Level of detachment? Yes, in fact, in a way that mystics understand, you are, will be, oned with God. But you think that means detachment? That’s the complete opposite of what is Real.

See, that’s my point. By detachment, I mean there is no longer any significance to showing concern for the world. You’re dead. You’re in heaven. Why should the state of the world matter? These are some of things I know plenty of mystics (and wannabe mystics) have been quoted for.

Which you? The you that didn’t realize the nature of things and thinks this is either all there is or what is next could ever be somehow lesser? Or the true self, the spirit that is already longing for Home?

But again, what if I’m not yet longing for home? What if I’ll long for something else first, like how the rest of the world would reach that end? Heck, what if I want to see what would happen if I let the rest of humanity go before me?

I haven no idea what you are talking about or why you think I would be “watching out” for the “end of days” when I just quoted the Glory Be that says world without end. You were the one who said you wanted to stay until the end as if there were such a thing, I didn’t bring it up.

Surely you’re aware of all the end-times craze that tends to pop up on these boards every now and then? I know you quoted the Glory Be but it’s just that why would it say this yet people are encouraging end-times fascination and speculation among Catholics?

Then you’ll be delighted to know you will not be missing a thing in your view from the Afterlife.

When I read some quotes on detachment from some of the saints, I can’t say I agree.