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Greenfields
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How do we work out how much we die to ourselves in loving Jesus? (as in the hymn,“Into your hands we commend our spirit O Lord” )
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JamalChristophr
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Stop asking difficult questions at such a late hour, and let us Americans go to bed. 
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Mary888
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I think… when we are unjustly accused or mistreated, if we feel the need for self-justification in front of the world or our oppressor we haven’t died enough for Him.
He said “they will come against you lying in my name.” When unjust things happen to us we are being tested by God.
He said “they will come against you lying in my name.” When unjust things happen to us we are being tested by God.
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Greenfields
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And in sacrificing our own interests ,and dreams and wants ?
Tis_Bearself
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I’ve wondered this myself. I can see letting go of all the sinful and selfish parts of me, but erasing the self entirely does not seem to be what Jesus is after, as it seems more like an Eastern religion concept.
Also wondered what it means to be “dead to the world” as one of the prayers I have been saying contains the wish that the person praying could become more “dead to the world” to just focus on Jesus. I understand about detachment from the world if it keeps you from God, but “dead to the world” sounds more like you’re not even seeing or appreciating God’s creations, and I cannot view that as a positive thing.
Also wondered what it means to be “dead to the world” as one of the prayers I have been saying contains the wish that the person praying could become more “dead to the world” to just focus on Jesus. I understand about detachment from the world if it keeps you from God, but “dead to the world” sounds more like you’re not even seeing or appreciating God’s creations, and I cannot view that as a positive thing.
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Benadam
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I’m not very good at dying for Him on my own. When the Grace comes, He comes to my aid. He lifts me up, and carries me and sets me back on my feet.
It’s after I recover, I can understand, I have returned to Jesus, a pebble from the mountain of His love.
I read this a few years ago it made an impact on me. Something I’ve carried around in my heart since.
It was written by Roman citizens in the first centuries who were struck by the peculiar behavior of the Christians in their midst. .
The Christians, when persecuted, rejoice at the opportunity to forgive, knowing forgiveness adds power to their prayers.
It’s after I recover, I can understand, I have returned to Jesus, a pebble from the mountain of His love.
I read this a few years ago it made an impact on me. Something I’ve carried around in my heart since.
It was written by Roman citizens in the first centuries who were struck by the peculiar behavior of the Christians in their midst. .
The Christians, when persecuted, rejoice at the opportunity to forgive, knowing forgiveness adds power to their prayers.
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Greenfields
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I don’t have any “likes”,but this is so very good to remember,thank you 
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Roseeurekacross
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It’s a tough question , I have been thinking about it.
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Benadam
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Thank you Greenfields. Glad you like it.
I have had a few experiences that I guess caused change in me significant eneogh to be able to explain a little. For me they are associated with suffering. Very much like that little poem I didn’t mean to write.
A trial, a situation of somewhat extremes. Someone or a number of people are angry or even hate you for reasons that have nothing to do with anything you’ve done but who you are., Some hate inside of the others. Very confusing…I think obstructions of grace are removed. A Christian witness. A deep exchange between the sufferer and the abuser become forgiver and forgiven.
I can’t say growth makes one feel different but the world changes. The meaning of things change. In the experience of suffering is a revelation of Christ that deepens the meaning of everything and everyone.
The meaning of the world changes and that meaning compels love. No decisions to be more this or be more that. it just is, because the world is more. To my loved ones, they mean more .That’s what happens to everyone growing in love for Jesus,but it’s hard to notice. But if you were to see a video of yourself 10 or 20 years then you might be embarrassed. That was me?
I have had a few experiences that I guess caused change in me significant eneogh to be able to explain a little. For me they are associated with suffering. Very much like that little poem I didn’t mean to write.
A trial, a situation of somewhat extremes. Someone or a number of people are angry or even hate you for reasons that have nothing to do with anything you’ve done but who you are., Some hate inside of the others. Very confusing…I think obstructions of grace are removed. A Christian witness. A deep exchange between the sufferer and the abuser become forgiver and forgiven.
I can’t say growth makes one feel different but the world changes. The meaning of things change. In the experience of suffering is a revelation of Christ that deepens the meaning of everything and everyone.
The meaning of the world changes and that meaning compels love. No decisions to be more this or be more that. it just is, because the world is more. To my loved ones, they mean more .That’s what happens to everyone growing in love for Jesus,but it’s hard to notice. But if you were to see a video of yourself 10 or 20 years then you might be embarrassed. That was me?
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