In op-ed article, a mother praises condom party for teenagers

[jebojora]

Kendy:

but realize that if people are going to have sex anyway, then maybe, they should use condoms.

This is a cop out. People are going to do it anyway, doesn’t mean we should all bend to society.

While I always knew my mom would prefer that I wasn’t having sex, she told me that there were diseases out there and I should at least be safe and avoid a pregnancy, which I could not have afforded with a man I would not have wanted to marry.

Sorry to say, but you shouldn’t have been having sex. It’s not about what you Mom wants, it’s about what God wants. God says sex before marriage is wrong.

There are parents I know who allow their under-age children to drink alcohol at home. Same excuse…they’re going to do it anyway, so at least I know they’re safe. WRONG! You are teaching them that it’s okay to do something wrong as long as you are careful or control the outcome.

Now, I know you’re thinking if you can’t afford the baby and you can’t marry the man, why are you having sex? Fair enough, but if you had said that to me five years ago, I would have just laughed at you. So, as difficult as it was for my parents, they had to settle for the next best thing, my safety.

I have a 20 year old daugher and a 23 year old son. They both adhere to the teachings of the Church. Not for me, but because they love God. If either one them were to decide to have sex, and a child was born…that would be the consequences for their decision. It has nothing to do with me and what I want for them. If I hand them birth control…then I’m giving my tacit approval of sex outside of marriage. I can’t do that.

No we can’t make society suddenly agree that abstinence is the correct approach. But it’s so important to continue to stand up for the morals and values that God has laid down for us. Even when it seems like EVERYBODY else is giving in.

 

[Riley259]

jebojora:

This is a cop out. People are going to do it anyway, doesn’t mean we should all bend to society.

Sorry to say, but you shouldn’t have been having sex. It’s not about what you Mom wants, it’s about what God wants. God says sex before marriage is wrong.

There are parents I know who allow their under-age children to drink alcohol at home. Same excuse…they’re going to do it anyway, so at least I know they’re safe. WRONG! You are teaching them that it’s okay to do something wrong as long as you are careful or control the outcome.

I have a 20 year old daugher and a 23 year old son. They both adhere to the teachings of the Church. Not for me, but because they love God. If either one them were to decide to have sex, and a child was born…that would be the consequences for their decision. It has nothing to do with me and what I want for them. If I hand them birth control…then I’m giving my tacit approval of sex outside of marriage. I can’t do that.

No we can’t make society suddenly agree that abstinence is the correct approach. But it’s so important to continue to stand up for the morals and values that God has laid down for us. Even when it seems like EVERYBODY else is giving in.

Amen!!

 

[Kendy]

jebojora:

This is a cop out. People are going to do it anyway, doesn’t mean we should all bend to society.

Sorry to say, but you shouldn’t have been having sex. It’s not about what you Mom wants, it’s about what God wants. God says sex before marriage is wrong.

There are parents I know who allow their under-age children to drink alcohol at home. Same excuse…they’re going to do it anyway, so at least I know they’re safe. WRONG! You are teaching them that it’s okay to do something wrong as long as you are careful or control the outcome.

I have a 20 year old daugher and a 23 year old son. They both adhere to the teachings of the Church. Not for me, but because they love God. If either one them were to decide to have sex, and a child was born…that would be the consequences for their decision. It has nothing to do with me and what I want for them. If I hand them birth control…then I’m giving my tacit approval of sex outside of marriage. I can’t do that.

No we can’t make society suddenly agree that abstinence is the correct approach. But it’s so important to continue to stand up for the morals and values that God has laid down for us. Even when it seems like EVERYBODY else is giving in.

First of all, I was not a teenager. I was an adult. Second, my mother never opened up her home for me to have pre-marital sex. Third, there was never a doubt in my mind that my parents believed that pre-marital sex is a sin. They had made that loud and clear from as far back as I can remember. The decision to dismiss those teachings was mine and at no point did I think my parents had changed their mind about pre-marital sex. However, after it became clear to them that I was not listening, they wanted to make sure that I was safe. They never bought me contraceptives. They just told me to be careful, to avoid pregnancy and diseases.

Kendy

 

[Riley259]

Kendy:

First of all, I was not a teenager. I was an adult. Second, my mother never opened up her home for me to have pre-marital sex. Third, there was never a doubt in my mind that my parents believed that pre-marital sex is a sin. They had made that loud and clear from as far back as I can remember. The decision to dismiss those teachings was mine and at no point did I think my parents had changed their mind about pre-marital sex. However, after it became clear to them that I was not listening, they wanted to make sure that I was safe. They never bought me contraceptives. They just told me to be careful, to avoid pregnancy and diseases.

Kendy

The use of contraceptives is wrong and ultimately harmful to relationships - maybe that should have explained more clearly why this was the case.

 

[Rosalinda]

I studied overseas for six years and left home while still a teenager and a virgin. My parents were concerned and no doubt worried a lot as I pursued my dreams so far from home. Nevertheless, I can never imagine them advising me to practice mortal sin safely; they prayed and put their trust in the Lord: not in contraceptives. For my part, while my peers were engaged in wild parties and sex orgies I continued to live a sacramental life. Yes, I was an anomaly- especially as expectations from an “American” girl were based on stereotypes- acquired from exported American movies, TV and music which made foreigners believe I was morally dissolute too. I don’t pretend my understanding for Catholic moral teaching was very profound. The pill had come out and it was confusing to me why Pope Paul VI had banned it; it seemed such a practical solution at the time with its promise allowing women to develop their career goals; take control of their lives. Even so, I gave the obedience of faith while a more in depth understanding came at a latter time when I finally read the encyclicals of Paul VI and JPII.

Today, I’m ever so grateful for the wisdom of Holy Mother Church; following her teachings, I was protected from so much sorrow and misery. As naive as it sounds, I remembered the story of St. Maria of Goretti who chose death rather than sin at the young age of only thirteen when a young man had tried to seduce her to commit an immoral act with him. Struggling with all the temptations of the world, the memory of that little girl gave me courage and fortified my will. To those who love God nothing is impossible.

How sad it is so many parents not only distrust their children but the abundant grace of God and compromise truth with a safety net which their children fall through like snowflakes into the burning pit.

 

[Kendy]

Rosalinda:

I studied overseas for six years and left home while still a teenager and a virgin. My parents were concerned and no doubt worried a lot as I pursued my dreams so far from home. Nevertheless, I can never imagine them advising me to practice mortal sin safely; they prayed and put their trust in the Lord: not in contraceptives. For my part, while my peers were engaged in wild parties and sex orgies I continued to live a sacramental life. Yes, I was an anomaly- especially as expectations from an “American” girl were based on stereotypes- acquired from exported American movies, TV and music which made foreigners believe I was morally dissolute too. I don’t pretend my understanding for Catholic moral teaching was very profound. The pill had come out and it was confusing to me why Pope Paul VI had banned it; it seemed such a practical solution at the time with its promise allowing women to develop their career goals; take control of their lives. Even so, I gave the obedience of faith while a more in depth understanding came at a latter time when I finally read the encyclicals of Paul VI and JPII.

Today, I’m ever so grateful for the wisdom of Holy Mother Church; following her teachings, I was protected from so much sorrow and misery. As naive as it sounds, I remembered the story of St. Maria of Goretti who chose death rather than sin at the young age of only thirteen when a young man had tried to seduce her to commit an immoral act with him. Struggling with all the temptations of the world, the memory of that little girl gave me courage and fortified my will. To those who love God nothing is impossible.

How sad it is so many parents not only distrust their children but the abundant grace of God and compromise truth with a safety net which their children fall through like snowflakes into the burning pit.

It’s good that you remained faithful to the church, but I didn’t. My parents had very good reason to distrust me. No matter how much it pained them, they would rather have me sinfully alive than sinfully dead. It’s not like they stopped preaching that premarital sex is wrong.

Kendy

 

[Clonereject1138]

TarAshly:

Sex between two married consenting adults can be fun, and often looked forward too. Sex is more than just for producing babies and its way more than robotics, its about connection and love as well and when two people love each other it can be A LOT of fun, and VERY looked forward too. just my :twocents:

Sexuall activity is for procreation and the spread of the human race, as well as the combinging of husband and wife into one flesh…

No wonder people are soo messed up. It’s a duty, one in which, we should derive as little pleasure(shudder the word just sounds perverse) as possible. Just my :twocents:

Perversion(otherwise know as pleasure)=Hell. Fine Here ya go! :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents:

 

[Clonereject1138]

Rosalinda:

Today, I’m ever so grateful for the wisdom of Holy Mother Church; following her teachings, I was protected from so much sorrow and misery. As naive as it sounds, I remembered the story of St. Maria of Goretti who chose death rather than sin at the young age of only thirteen when a young man had tried to seduce her to commit an immoral act with him. Struggling with all the temptations of the world, the memory of that little girl gave me courage and fortified my will. To those who love God nothing is impossible.

How sad it is so many parents not only distrust their children but the abundant grace of God and compromise truth with a safety net which their children fall through like snowflakes into the burning pit.

Just as they say: “Lord may I die before sinning”

 

[Neithan]

Clonereject1138:

No wonder people are soo messed up. It’s a duty, one in which, we should derive as little pleasure(shudder the word just sounds perverse) as possible. Just my :twocents:

I know your heart’s in the right place, but this is *exactly *the kind of wrong-headed thinking which caused the reactionary sexual explosion of the 1960s, followed by the steep moral decline in which we are wallowing today.
Pleasure is good, it comes from God. In fact, every act of the will is for some particular good–Sin is when a lesser good is chosen in place of a greater. In the case of masturbation or fornication, the good of sexual pleasure is lesser than the good of chastity, therefore it is sinful–gravely sinful because of the degree of difference. The right choice is to keep sex for marriage, that way both sexual pleasure and chastity are preserved.

Perversion(otherwise know as pleasure)=Hell. Fine Here ya go!

Another gross misunderstanding. Perversion is the *misuse *of pleasure against nature. No one purposely chooses to be perverted solely for the sake of being a pervert, but they act in perverse ways because of the pleasure derived therefrom. The objective evil is basically that a lesser good of personal pleasure is chosen in exchange for the greater good of nature.
FYI masturbation is perverse but fornication is not (technically), unless artificial contraception is used.

Young people need to realise that the Church wants nothing more than their ultimate happiness, and every sin is actually sacrificing some happiness in the long run. Fornication, masturbation, contraception etc. etc. will not make you happy! When one comes to this realisation, all sin will lose its appeal (at least rationally; concupiscence remains an issue).

 

[dafalax]

Clonereject1138:

Sexuall activity is for procreation and the spread of the human race, as well as the combinging of husband and wife into one flesh…

No wonder people are soo messed up. It’s a duty, one in which, we should derive as little pleasure(shudder the word just sounds perverse) as possible. Just my :twocents:

Perversion(otherwise know as pleasure)=Hell. Fine Here ya go! :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents:

I’d like to know your source on this because it sure isn’t in the catechism. Sex’s purpose is both unitive and procreative. How can it be unitive if you don’t give and receive pleasure from it? Your duty is to give and receive this pleasure with your spouse, not to be a receptacle for bodily fluids.
Pleasure is not perversion. Perversion when the pursuit of pleasure becomes greater than your pursuit for God. Perversion happens when you break His laws (fornication, masturbation, etc.) or seek earthly pleasures immoderately. God gave us wine, but warns against drunkenness. God gave us sex and all it’s many splendoured aspects, but expects us to use this GIFT within marriage. You should read Theology of the Body. Our bodies are gifts from God and must always be viewed as such. Remembering this will help you to use your body wisely and chastely according to your station in life.