In The Beginning

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Faith1960 said:
Science tells us the Big Bang started with a speck (singularity?) the size of part of a proton and then exploded and expanded, still expanding to this day.
Genesis said God created from nothing. A speck is not nothing. Is Genesis wrong?
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God’s will created the universe which would include a speck if that is what started it all. The big bang is a theory in which quantum physics says that there is much room between the particles that comprise matter. God in His infinite knowledge and power could compress all matter into something very small if He so chooses. Genesis just gives a discourse on that creation using the best knowledge and writing style of the time. I find that there is no conflict with science vs Genesis in that one has to know the limits of the writing style and it’s purpose for being written…
 
anixx said:
In Genesis is described the creation of all things, including the Universe we live in. There is nothing in creation that does not come from God.
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So, you made a fallacious statement regarding what the Catholic Church believes and when asked to elaborate, you simply refer to Genesis? 🤷
 
Nacho45 said:
So, you made a fallacious statement regarding what the Catholic Church believes and when asked to elaborate, you simply refer to Genesis? 🤷
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Before throwing your self at my jugular, check the discussion that led to that particular answer. I wasn’t asked to elaborate, but to answer a simple question. 😛 God bless!
 
anixx said:
Before throwing your self at my jugular, check the discussion that led to that particular answer. I wasn’t asked to elaborate, but to answer a simple question. 😛 God bless!
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A question you have yet to answer.
 
Gorgias said:
No.

First off, Genesis is not a science book.

Second, science isn’t telling us where the ‘speck’ came from. If you want to assert the Big Bang, and simultaneously look to Genesis, you need to identify the source of the ‘speck’. If it’s God, then we still have creation ex nihilo.
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Pretty much nailed what I was thinking.

I would add:

Science is not in the business of absolute truth. Science works with approximate, changeable truths. For example, Newton posited a “clockwork” universe where, if you knew enough about the state, position, and so on of every particle, you could (in theory) calculate every later stage of that universe. If this were true, what would become of our free will? However, along comes (not Einstein’s relativity, although that did change some of Newton’s frames of reference) quantum theory and Heisenberg, who realized that you could never get that knowledge to start with, and so all those precise calculations are impossible. By the 1930s, most experts realized that Newton’s clockwork universe was simply wrong. But, for many purposes, it is “close enough” in the real world.

Hence, you need not worry about whether the Big Bang theory conflicts with Genesis. The Big Bang is a theory and model; it does not claim to be the final truth. It remains (always, as science) open to revision, or even replacement by a more accurate model. Our faith, however, speaks of eternal truths, because revealed by God, and we hope we have an accurate understanding of these truths.
 
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