S
sweller
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I am a Protestant and I actually want to become a Catholic. One thing really hangs me up. Not Mary, not praying to saints, not smells and bells, not the consubstantial eucharist, not even the Papacy but… the sacrament of Holy Orders! Yes, I have read my Catechism and I still don’t get it. I hope you can clarify this for me.
The catholic church says it is, quite literally, the body of Christ, as it is unified by His Body and Blood made present in the Eucharist. Those outside the church are outside this body because the Eucharist served is not really Christ’s body, it is just a symbol that in now way imparts Grace on the faithful. Even if a non-Catholic Church were to believe that they were feasting on a consubstantial eucharist it would not be so because of… Holy Orders, right?
Anyway, my problem with this is… How can the Priest be everything and nothing? In one sense, his ordination, placing him in the line of apostolic succession gives him the power to make Christ “really present” in the Eucharist. What is this power and where does it come from? Because, you do admit there are faithful Christians outside of the Catholic Church (though you say they are not participating in the fullness of Christ’s salvic work, but forget that), though they cannot make Christ “really present” in the Eucharist. So a faithful Christian, outside the Catholic Church and apostolic succession, cannot make the Lord present in the Eucharist, but, correct me if I am wrong, an unfaithful catholic priest can, simply because he was ordained. So, the Catholic priest is everything in the sense he is a necessary condition for the Eucharist to be present, but the priest is also nothing, because his ability to make exercise the Eucharistic mystery is in no way dependent on him and his faith.
Thus, in my mind, the sacrament of Holy Orders seems like a fabrication to me, since it has little to do with the faith of the individual priest. And since it holds together your whole Chruch structure, I have reservations becominig catholic. Please explain this for me.
The catholic church says it is, quite literally, the body of Christ, as it is unified by His Body and Blood made present in the Eucharist. Those outside the church are outside this body because the Eucharist served is not really Christ’s body, it is just a symbol that in now way imparts Grace on the faithful. Even if a non-Catholic Church were to believe that they were feasting on a consubstantial eucharist it would not be so because of… Holy Orders, right?
Anyway, my problem with this is… How can the Priest be everything and nothing? In one sense, his ordination, placing him in the line of apostolic succession gives him the power to make Christ “really present” in the Eucharist. What is this power and where does it come from? Because, you do admit there are faithful Christians outside of the Catholic Church (though you say they are not participating in the fullness of Christ’s salvic work, but forget that), though they cannot make Christ “really present” in the Eucharist. So a faithful Christian, outside the Catholic Church and apostolic succession, cannot make the Lord present in the Eucharist, but, correct me if I am wrong, an unfaithful catholic priest can, simply because he was ordained. So, the Catholic priest is everything in the sense he is a necessary condition for the Eucharist to be present, but the priest is also nothing, because his ability to make exercise the Eucharistic mystery is in no way dependent on him and his faith.
Thus, in my mind, the sacrament of Holy Orders seems like a fabrication to me, since it has little to do with the faith of the individual priest. And since it holds together your whole Chruch structure, I have reservations becominig catholic. Please explain this for me.