In your opinion, what is the worst crime?

[BornInMarch]

What do you think the worst crime someone can commit is?
Why do you think this is the worst crime?
What do you consider a just punishment for it?

Disclaimer: I am looking for PERSONAL OPINION, so please don’t say “we can’t know for sure so you shouldn’t even ask”. Also, please everyone be respectful.

 

[BeetleJuice]

Hmm… I have remembered hearing that the worst SIN (which I will consider a crime) is receiving Eucharist in the state of mortal sin. But if this is personal opinion, I’m sorta of jumping between several things… Murder would probably be foremost among them, followed closely by sacrilege and adultery. Murder is probably the worst crime to me because it’s just so unjustifiable. Even from an atheist standpoint, murder couldn’t be ever be justifiable. Taking another’s life is just so extreme… but then again, there are other very extreme things also. Cheating on the one who loves you is just evil. Sacrilege, from my own personal religious standpoint, would have to be the worst crime. None of us deserve to consume the Lord’s own flesh and blood. But to receive it after we completely and knowingly went against him? That ain’t right. So, in conclusion… murder, when looked at from both a religious AND a societal (social?) point of view, is the worst crime in my honest opinion. When looked at from just a religious standpoint, sacrilege, I must say, would probably be the worst…

 

[boomerang]

I think the worst thing is for a parent to crush their child’s mind and spirit with mental and physical abuse. That’s worse than just killing them flat out.

 

[1newcatholic]

What do you think the worst crime someone can commit is?
Why do you think this is the worst crime?
What do you consider a just punishment for it?

Disclaimer: I am looking for PERSONAL OPINION, so please don’t say “we can’t know for sure so you shouldn’t even ask”. Also, please everyone be respectful.

I think it’s probably a tie between torture and murder.

 

[John_Lazarus]

I think murder may be it for me.

It is *possible *to recover from just about anything else. You don’t come back from murdered.

 

[CB_Catholic]

Murder. That includes abortion & euthanasia, and not one is worse than another. They are all murder and the blood of the victim cries out to God, as it did in Genesis.

 

[nojesusnopeace]

Blasphemy of The Holy Spirit, the only unforgivable crime everything else is forgiven. Man may not punish it, but man’s punishments aren’t eternal.

You can come back from murder. Most soldiers that came back from the desert do. Theyre murderers, but still forgiven if they call on the name of our savior and feel true remorse. Dont pretend it isn’t murder just because an imperfect country led by imperfect people condoned it.

 

[DaveBj]

Forcible rape of a child. I can’t think of any crime worse than that, including murder.

 

[Mulligan2]

Certainly not the most pleasant thread topic.

To me it would be a tie between sexual abuse of children, murder, and torture / permanently maiming someone.

 

[soulfree]

Most crimes against children or weak, challenged, helpless people. Ultimately, though, the worst crime is allowing miserable, hopeless people to live when they only sigh after death. i’m talking about hell.

 

[mikekle]

Forcible rape of a child. I can’t think of any crime worse than that, including murder.

I dont agree with that, murder of that child would be MUCH worse, as once they are killed, that is it, they are not here anymore and never will be, at least with being raped or abused, they do go on living and breathing, and eventually WILL reach adulthood and hopefully get help for this…again, once you are murdered, none of this can ever happen, its all over that very second.

For that reason, its murder imo. nothing else even comes close, there is literally nothing worse you can do to a person than to take their life away.

 

[BornInMarch]

You can come back from murder. Most soldiers that came back from the desert do. Theyre murderers, but still forgiven if they call on the name of our savior and feel true remorse. Dont pretend it isn’t murder just because an imperfect country led by imperfect people condoned it.

Are you trying to offend people?

American soldiers overseas are NOT murderers. The Laws and Customs of War say that a soldier is only a murderer if he shoots an emery who surrendered. Shooting enemies in combat is self defense.

Now back to the main topic at hand.

 

[nojesusnopeace]

Are you trying to offend people?

American soldiers overseas are NOT murderers. The Laws and Customs of War say that a soldier is only a murderer if he shoots an emery who surrendered. Shooting enemies in combat is self defense.

Now back to the main topic at hand.

Thou shalt not kill. Doesn’t say though shalt not kill except in war. No, I’m not trying to offend. Are you saying the bible offends you? The laws and customs of war are man’s law.

 

[soulfree]

Thou shalt not kill. Doesn’t say though shalt not kill except in war. No, I’m not trying to offend. Are you saying the bible offends you? The laws and customs of war are man’s law.

There is also nothing, no hint whatsoever in anything Jesus ever did or said that justifies killing in self-defense.

 

[nojesusnopeace]

There is also nothing, no hint whatsoever in anything Jesus ever did or said that justifies killing in self-defense.

That’s correct
Matthew 5:39
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Worked out for Ghandi…

 

[BornInMarch]

There is also nothing, no hint whatsoever in anything Jesus ever did or said that justifies killing in self-defense.

In the bible, Moses kills an Egyptian Man. The man was beating a slave, and had Moses not killed him the Egyptian probably would have beat the slave to death. The only person who tells Moses that this was bad is another human (one who probably did not know that Moses was saving someone’s life). Even then, Moses does not run away out of shame over killing the man but instead does so because he does not want to be executed (beating slaves was legal in Egyptian Society).

There is not a single scene where God tells Moses that he should not have killed the Egyptian Man. In fact, God is still willing to choose Moses as the one to free the Jews.

Likewise, after the Jews are freed they need to conquer their promise land. This involved war and killing, but it was the only way (plus their enemies practiced human sacrifice).

Fastforward a few books later, and Jesus is using a whip to clear out a temple when he finds that the corrupt clergymen turned it into a black market.

The bible makes it clear that it is not murder if it is to save yourself/someone else.

 

[pollylodges]

Saint Michael, the archangel, defend us in battle, be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil, may God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do you, O’ Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God thrust into Hell Satan and all the other evil spirits who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

Amen.

†

Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name.

Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread.

And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Amen.

†

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.

Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.

Amen.

†

 

[soulfree]

In the bible, Moses kills an Egyptian Man. The man was beating a slave, and had Moses not killed him the Egyptian probably would have beat the slave to death. The only person who tells Moses that this was bad is another human (one who probably did not know that Moses was saving someone’s life). Even then, Moses does not run away out of shame over killing the man but instead does so because he does not want to be executed (beating slaves was legal in Egyptian Society).

There is not a single scene where God tells Moses that he should not have killed the Egyptian Man. In fact, God is still willing to choose Moses as the one to free the Jews.

Likewise, after the Jews are freed they need to conquer their promise land. This involved war and killing, but it was the only way (plus their enemies practiced human sacrifice).

Fastforward a few books later, and Jesus is using a whip to clear out a temple when he finds that the corrupt clergymen turned it into a black market.

The bible makes it clear that it is not murder if it is to save yourself/someone else.

You know not everything that is related in the Ancient Testament was pleasant to God. Don’t mistake silence for approval. AND divorce was allowed in Moses’ time because of the “hardness of their hearts”, from Jesus’ point on, divorce was no longer allowed.

 

[Ender]

Thou shalt not kill. Doesn’t say though shalt not kill except in war. No, I’m not trying to offend. Are you saying the bible offends you? The laws and customs of war are man’s law.

Jesus said a number of things that show he did not condemn all killing.But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. (Mt 18:6)

*Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. *(Mt 15:3-4)
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[Ender]

What do you think the worst crime someone can commit is?

Murder.

Why do you think this is the worst crime?

Because this is what the church teaches.*The murderer is the worst enemy of his species, and consequently of nature. To the utmost of his power he destroys the universal work of God by the destruction of man, since God declares that He created all things for man’s sake. Nay, as it is forbidden in Genesis to take human life, because God created man to his own image and likeness, he who makes away with God’s image offers great injury to God, and almost seems to lay violent hands on God Himself ! *(Catechism of Trent)

What do you consider a just punishment for it?

We’ve been told that too.For your lifeblood I will surely require a reckoning… Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for God made man in his own image. (CCC 2260)
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