Incest victims and family dynamics

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Here is a great article on understanding the family dynamics of incestuous families.

Unfortunately, incest is real for too many people and associated with so much shame. Anyone who falls in this category, has a long journey ahead of them which is often overwhelming, painful, with a host of survival tactics from dissociation, splitting, denial, extremely low self-worth, difficulty trusting, physical, spiritual, and emotional pain, and repressed memories.

If you know a loved one (which you probably do and are unaware of it) this article is educational.

survivorshandbook.com/the-incestuous-family/
 
I would also be surprised if these problems, like so many in our times, are not also occurring on a first-generation basis at an alarming rate. I don’t have statistics, I think they’d be impossible to know, but I highly suspect that due to various societal break-down, the widespread societal rejection of most taboos, and the role of electronic communication in allowing very small segments of the population to communicate and get a sense of community values surrounding aberrant behaviors, we’re living in very emotionally-wounded and emotionally-dangerous times. IOW, someone with predatory inclinations in Great-Grandpa’s time might have felt a pariah, might have felt there was no one in the world who would approve of his behavior, even as family shame and a code of silence about the topic was giving greater “protection” from exposure. Someone with predatory inclinations in our times, in contrast, might belong to an internet forum in which others not only encourage the behaviors but worsen them by validating them in various ways. There is more willingness to put a light on the behaviors that get them dealt with–for which we can be very thankful!–but also far more validating voices also being heard by those who want to hear them. It is a very dangerous world.

IOW, these are problems that are going to show up even in families where the problem was entirely unknown two generations ago. No one with these problems whose family does not quite fit the “typical” picture should feel that means anything.
 
In all the research I have done on this topic. What is true for every situation is the cause is always because of a deprivation of love and respect. It is a scenario where every one is a victim. The perpetrator was usually a victim of abuse, who then in an unconscious manner (I say unconscious because they are motivated by some subconscious trigger that they often don’t understand) tries to resolve the abuse by acting it out, therefore making more victims. Even the mothers of these children were more than likely victims of abuse. Everyone is a victim.

“Only hurt people, hurt people.”
 
In all the research I have done on this topic. What is true for every situation is the cause is always because of a deprivation of love and respect. It is a scenario where every one is a victim. The perpetrator was usually a victim of abuse, who then in an unconscious manner (I say unconscious because they are motivated by some subconscious trigger that they often don’t understand) tries to resolve the abuse by acting it out, therefore making more victims. Even the mothers of these children were more than likely victims of abuse. Everyone is a victim.

“Only hurt people, hurt people.”
When you are over 18 and inflict abuse upon children you are not a “victim”, you are a predator.
 
In all the research I have done on this topic. What is true for every situation is the cause is always because of a deprivation of love and respect. It is a scenario where every one is a victim. The perpetrator was usually a victim of abuse, who then in an unconscious manner (I say unconscious because they are motivated by some subconscious trigger that they often don’t understand) tries to resolve the abuse by acting it out, therefore making more victims. Even the mothers of these children were more than likely victims of abuse. Everyone is a victim.

“Only hurt people, hurt people.”
Hurt people are the only kind there are. We are a sorry race in that respect. It is relatively rare, however, for a wound to have no prospect of being healed.

There is, however, a real difference between a strong precipitating temptation and an excuse. The only person who wouldn’t be at all culpable for this kind of behavior is someone who had never been taught that it was morally repugnant or someone who truly had no ability to resist the impulse to offend. That doesn’t mean all who are culpable are equally culpable, but even the scientists who doubt whether free will has a physiological basis believe that people do best when they choose their actions *as if *they had free will! Removing all culpability is a false compassion in a world where forgiveness is available to the contrite.

Lack of a knowledge of this particular moral law cannot be assumed in anyone of marriageable age. No one old enough to have a child escapes the knowledge that sex with the child is utterly taboo. For instance: No one ever brings this kind of past up at a dinner party and finds to their surprise that sex between children and adults is forbidden, and especially sex between children and parents.

Likewise, if anyone has ever been driven against his or her will to engage in sex, let alone sex with a minor, that person has belonged in a secure setting…that is, a setting in which he or she would be totally denied the opportunity to offend. That would be a dangerous level of mental illness, too dangerous to expose to the unsuspecting.

This is why, though, it so important to let victims know they have options and that their situation is not unique or inevitable. If you don’t know you can break the cycle, if you don’t know you can have the dominant player stopped, if you are never told that the threats of perpetrators are empty threats, you may fail to use free will that you have. That is a tragic sort of ignorance.

I do take your point, though. How is a perpetrator who was suffers from a literally unspeakable compulsion supposed to feel safe in coming into the light? This is a sin where the sinner is very often hated and reviled, rather than lead compassionately to a place where the compulsion will never again win the day. That is also tragic, because as you imply, it too often keeps the cycle going.
 
When you are over 18 and inflict abuse upon children you are not a “victim”, you are a predator.
She was pointing out the tragic reality that the two groups are not mutually exclusive. “Common sense” would say that victims are the least likely to become offenders, but the opposite is true.
 
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