Incredible disrespect shown toward Pope in Barcelona

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I wouldn’t overly worry about protests against the Pope. Whoever said being Christian is supposed to lead to acceptance in the world? Christ certainly did not. Quite the opposite. Of course the Pope as representative of Christianity will attract opposition.

Spain is a non Christian area. Circa 15% of the Spanish are catholic and a percentage or so of the rest may belong to other christian groups.

Clearly I’m excluding cradle catholics who may be in some ways culturally catholic but don’t actualy attend and are de facto agnostics or deists. Of course among the 85% who don’t practise Catholic Christianity there will be those to whom the Pope is a red rag to a bull. It goes with the territory.
 
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Anyway I am going to pray for you with my boyfriend. We’ll also pray for you when we go to Mass. :gopray2::gopray2:

Maybe I’ll even ask some friends and family to pray for you as well. I won’t say who you are, that wouldn’t be right, just ask them to say a special prayer for someone on a message board. :highprayer:

I wish you the best. I hope your heart is filled with the love of Jesus Christ and if it isn’t I hope you find that love and cherish it, as I do.
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God Bless!
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your going to pray for me with your boyfriend? your gonna pray for others while you commit acts of sodomy, perversion, and vileness?? If you cherish Christ as you say you do, you wouldn’t be committing vile acts of sin presumptuously. Here is a wonderful example of the BEAM in another persons eye

And yes the crusades were justified in most parts. If you knew anything about history you would know the crusades were started by the Muslim invasions and was a defensive measure to protect Europe, Jerusalem also included since it was invaded by the Muslims … Without the crusades Europe would have become Islamic and YOU would probably be facing the death penalty right now under sharia law.

Have some respect for our fallen christian knights and brethren…

But then again this is actual history I am bringing up with you, which I doubt you will understand…

And I do not take away my reply. Acts of extreme sacrilege should be punished by authorities. What that group of sodomites did is akin, in my eyes, to going into a Jewish temple and sacrificing a pig on the altar.

Remember what Elijah did to those pagan priests??
But according to Catholicism we are all guilty (and deserving of death and damnation).
Stained by Original Sin.
yes, according to our depraved state. However an innocent, like an unborn child, is only effected by original sin, not mortal sin. The Church is not against capital punishment either. The Church does NOT view all crimes or sins as equal…Some are mortal, some are venial.

There are times however when sin becomes so exceedingly large that the cries of people reach to the heavens. Like in the pre-deluge, Egypt, and Sodom and Gomorrah. When God killed by fire and brimstone, plagues, floods, and exiles. Or when Peter struck down Ananias and his wife, Sapphira, for lying to God, or when Herod was struck down.

 
your going to pray for me with your boyfriend?
Yes. 🙂

your gonna pray for others while you commit acts of sodomy, perversion, and vileness??
No, that would be very weird. :eek: We’re going to continue praying for you when we go to Mass and when we pray our daily rosary.

If you cherish Christ as you say you do, you wouldn’t be committing vile acts of sin presumptuously. Here is a wonderful example of the BEAM in another persons eye
Why would you say that? I’m not judging you.

And yes the crusades were justified in most parts. If you knew anything about history you would know the crusades were started by the Muslim invasions and was a defensive measure to protect Europe, Jerusalem also included since it was invaded by the Muslims … Without the crusades Europe would have become Islamic and YOU would probably be facing the death penalty right now under sharia law.
**I know a lot about history, thank you very much.

While it is true that the Crusades did begin to combat the Muslims; not all were that way. The Albigensian Crusade comes to mind. That had nothing to do with Muslims, the Albigensian Crusade was to eliminate all who practiced Catharism.

The Crusades of the Teutonic Order were done to force people to convert.

Also the Swedish Crusades, Wendish Crusade were again NOT against Muslims.

The Stedinger Crusade was was against fellow Roman Catholics! :bigyikes:**

Have some respect for our fallen christian knights and brethren…
Why do you think I don’t have respect for them. I am not calling them names or saying anything bad about them. 🤷

But then again this is actual history I am bringing up with you, which I doubt you will understand…
There’s no need to try and insult me. For what it’s worth though; I was a member of the National Honor Society, so I know a lot more then you think. 👍

And I do not take away my reply. Acts of extreme sacrilege should be punished by authorities. What that group of sodomites did is akin, in my eyes, to going into a Jewish temple and sacrificing a pig on the altar.
**Boy, I disagree with you on that one. Honestly I think what those gay men did was waaaaaaay WORSE! They not only disrespected the Pope, but also EVERY SINGLE Catholic in the world.

However, kissing in a public street is NOT extreme sacrilege.**

Remember what Elijah did to those pagan priests??
**How many modern-day Catholic saints have gone and killed people? **

yes, according to our depraved state. However an innocent, like an unborn child, is only effected by original sin, not mortal sin. The Church is not against capital punishment either. The Church does NOT view all crimes or sins as equal…Some are mortal, some are venial.

There are times however when sin becomes so exceedingly large that the cries of people reach to the heavens. Like in the pre-deluge, Egypt, and Sodom and Gomorrah.
MANY historians would argue that the sin of Soddom and Gomorrah was greed and not sodomy. 👍

When God killed by fire and brimstone, plagues, floods, and exiles. Or when Peter struck down Ananias and his wife, Sapphira, for lying to God,
Well, it was not Peter who struck them down it was God. Peter only questioned them about why they did not give all the money, from the plot sale, to the Church. When he questioned Ananias; Ananias collapsed and died. When Sapphira is questioned; she too is not killed by Peter.

or when Herod was struck down.

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