Indulgences for non-Catholics

[idiopathogen]

I guess when he was born in a manger, in the incarnation, He certainly left the “glory” of heaven, but His own personal glory could never be set aside.

 

[LilyM]

Do you have a reference for Christ “laying down His glory?” I can think of a couple of him “laying down his life,” but never His glory. The cross gave God great glory displaying perfect righteousness and love at the same time.

Christ’s High Priestly prayer in John 17 was in preparation for that moment of glory.

In becoming human he laid down His glory - in becoming first a weak and dependent babe and then a feeble and physically limited (ie fallling asleep in the boat because He was tired, sweating blood, whippable and killable) man, He laid down His glory. That’s why He didn’t ALWAYS go around looking as He did at His Transfiguration or walking through locked doors as after His Resurrection, at which times He was in His full glory.

 

[idiopathogen]

I understand what you mean Lily. His personal glory was certainly covered most of His 33 years here, but to lay it aside would suggest He no longer was “Jesus Christ the same, yesterday, today, and forever.” The immutability of His person is a characteristic of God, “the same was in the beginning with God,” etc.

But my question was do you have a reference for that phrase? I don’t disagree with the idea of Him covering His glory, which He did in lowly grace, but it would be impossible for him to abandon His glory as a person of the trinity.

 

[idiopathogen]

I’m still curious regarding my post #2.

Is the indulgence system more motivating, or the mp3 of J. Hyland in “Holy Scriptures.” I understand if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, but be honest with your answer.

Is there a missing piece to the puzzle when Christians listen to such ministry and get no such indulgence system, or is God able to work through His word without the aid of human ideas?

 

[tito]

Found your concern intriguing as you mentioned being a non-catholic but did not say, although by your concern I gather you are of a christian persuassion? Mormon? Jehovah’s Witness? or other? Non-catholic protestants need not be concerned about indulgences since Purgatory is a catholic doctrine and it applies to the temporal punishments due for unsatisfied venial sins not confessed or have done penitence for on this side of eternity. Whatever is not atoned for here will be cleansed there. Indulgences apply for these impurities but not for sin that is mortal. However, if you are a protestant (I am surrounded by baptists where I live) their theology differs in that the sacrifice on the Cross by Jesus satisfy for all the sins of the world and therefore theologically there is no place for Purgatory. This is a question that a priest of any local parrish near you will be able to answer for you.