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Is it a mortal sin to get drunk on purpose? Is violation of any of the seven deadly sins a mortal sin?
 
Gluttony I’d say.

Getting drunk’s not good, we all know that! All things in moderation my son!

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  1. Yes - it meets the conditions of a moral sin being of grave matter, being done with intent, and being done with full knowledge.
  2. The seven deadly sins (pride, envy, anger, greed, sloth, gluttony, and lust) leads us to commit mortal sins. If one has one of the seven deadly sins, there are ways to counteract or eliminate them so as to not lead us into mortal sin.
 
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Is it a mortal sin to get drunk on purpose? Is violation of any of the seven deadly sins a mortal sin?
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yes abusing one’s body is a violation of the 5th commandment (assuming all the conditions for mortal sin are present, it is already grave matter, if there is full knowledge and consent, it is a sin). The sin is compounded by putting oneself in an altered mental state, because it is abuse of one’s unique human faculties that make us most like God, intellect, judgement, free will; and further compounded if you drive in that condition because you put others in danger.
 
Is it a mortal sin to get drunk on purpose? Is violation of any of the seven deadly sins a mortal sin?
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Today is my Birthday. I have been invited around a friends
for a meal. They will ope a bottle of wine and I will hve a whisey or two

Today is my Birthday. I have been invited arounda friens for a meal. I bootle of wine later follwed by glass of whiskey 😛

In moderation ‘no’ I would not thnk it does any harm 😛
 
moderation was not the question in OP. Deliberate drinking for the purpose of inebriation was the question, and yes it is sinful.
 
Remember when Jesus turned the Water into Wine, at that Wedding where they ran out of Wine.

I would say that was quite a deliberate act leading to quite a few sore heads the morning after.
I think Jesus clearly demonstrates that we are Free to live life with a passion.

Peace
 
Spirit_Driven said:
Remember when Jesus turned the Water into Wine, at that Wedding where they ran out of Wine.

I would say that was quite a deliberate act leading to quite a few sore heads the morning after.
I think Jesus clearly demonstrates that we are Free to live life with a passion.

Peace
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I take issue with your conclusion. The fact that Jesus turned water into wine in no way means that He is saying its okay for us all to go out and get drunk.
Getting drunk unintentionally is bad enough because you can end up being a danger to yourself and other people as you basically have lost control of all reason.
Moderation in drinking is okay but of course sometimes folks don’t stop and they might end up drunk.

However the OP is talking about people who go out with the deliberate intention of getting drunk. I would say that’s a grave sin.
 
The question really can’t be answered until you define ‘drunk’, and that can be defined a myriad of ways. I would say definately mortal sin when it begins to hurt your body badly, or make you act unchristian…ie picking fights, drinking until you are sick and hungover, etc…

A few to be lighthearted and fun is no sin! Unless it takes your mind off of the goodness of God and Creation! I think anything that can cause you to lose sight of the Creator and what is good is a sin.
 
I have a question regarding this. My friend invited me to a birthday party. She jokingly claims that the celebrators’ intend to serve beer and get everyone drunk. Now, I personally am not fond of beer and don’t want to get drunk, particularly now that I know that it’s a sin to get drunk. Even if I go to the party without the intention of getting drunk (but possibly still drink some beer), would it be sinful? Thanks and God bless!
 
sgtpepper said:
I have a question regarding this. My friend invited me to a birthday party. She jokingly claims that the celebrators’ intend to serve beer and get everyone drunk. Now, I personally am not fond of beer and don’t want to get drunk, particularly now that I know that it’s a sin to get drunk. Even if I go to the party without the intention of getting drunk (but possibly still drink some beer), would it be sinful? Thanks and God bless!
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If you you think you’ll enjoy the company, then I’d say that is a good thing. If you don’t want to get drunk, that’s a good thing too. Sip on a drink or two, and maybe switch to some soda. If your pretty entrench on not drinking very much at all, they’ll probably eventually let you be. If you your appearing to be on the fence, they’ll probably end up trying to persuade you. Just be firm and clear. The nice thing is you can keep an eye on them and make sure they get home safe.

When I go out with my friends, I tend to really stay away from the drinks myself. No worries about getting home, nor recovery time. Usually the fun is all the same. If you got good company, you’ll have a good time, drink or not.
 
Can someone site for me where drunkeness is grave matter?

I cannot find it in the Catechism.
Not trying to pick a fight here, just wondring if this is grave matter as defined by the Church.

Thanks.
 
Yes, drunkenness is a sin! There is no question about it. The Holy Spirit, through God’s Word, places it in the same league as idolatry, sexual promiscuity, and murder. According to Galatians 5:21 drunkenness causes you to “not obtain the kingdom of God”. That places it in the territory of mortal sin.

Drunkenness is mentioned in the Catechism here where it explains the “Different Kinds of Sins” and immediately before the section on “The Gravity of Sin: Mortal and Venial Sin”.

Galatians 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornication, uncleanness, immodesty, luxury,
20 Idolatry, witchcrafts, enmities, contentions, emulations, wraths, quarrels, dissensions, sects,
21 Envies, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like. Of the which I foretell you, as I have foretold to you, that they who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God.

Romans 1:12-14
12 The night is almost gone, and the day is near Therefore let us lay aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
13 Let us behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and sensuality, not in strife and jealousy.
14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh in regard to its lusts.

Luke 21:33-35
33 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
34 And take heed to yourselves, lest perhaps your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkenness, and the cares of this life, and that day come upon you suddenly.
35 For as a snare shall it come upon all that sit upon the face of the whole earth.

Hosea 4:10-11
10 And they shall eat and shall not be filled: they have committed fornication, and have not ceased: because they have forsaken the Lord in not observing his law.
11 Fornication, and wine, and drunkenness take away the understanding.

Isaiah 5:11-12
11 Woe to you that rise up early in the morning to follow drunkenness, and to drink till the evening, to be inflamed with wine.
12 The harp, and the lyre, and the timbrel, and the pipe, and wine are in your feasts: and the work of the Lord you regard not, nor do you consider the works of his hands.

Sirach 31:38-40
38 Wine drunken with excess raiseth quarrels; and wrath, and many ruins.
39 Wine drunken with excess is bitterness of the soul.
40 The heat of drunkenness is the stumblingblock of the fool, lessening strength and causing wounds.
 
Thanks for the quotes Llowell.

Though I do not question that it is a sin, I’m still wondering if it necessary grave matter.

I do see from your quotes that it is a sin, for sure, but it’s not specifically addressed as grave matter as far as I can see.

I cannot see us making a judgement as wholeheartedly as it occurs on this thread that it is a mortal sin, when I cannot ascertain whether it is grave matter or not.

I’d like to take this one step at a time.

Thanks though! 🙂
 
HailMary said:
Yes because you destroy the image of God in your mind by doing so.
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Hi HailMary 🙂

As per my post above, that’s not really a valid argument.

The only time we can say yes, it is a Mortal sin, is when it fulfills the three requirements:

*Mortal *sin is a sin being done with Full consent, Full knowledge and it needs to be defined as Grave Matter.

I’m still trying to find where and if the Church defines drunkedness as grave matter…no luck yet.
PM
 
2290 The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.
 
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2290 The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.
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Thanks Fix.

This shows that the only time the Church deems it as Grave matter is if you endanger your own, or someone else’s life as a result of being drunk.

So, If I’m at my house, or at a bar and take a taxi home, or any number of other instances, that does not endanger my life, it remains a venial sin.

A sin none the less, and something that removes us from God, surely, but not Mortal sin, by which you need to go to confession before you receive our Lornd in the Eucharist.

PM
 
thistle said:
I take issue with your conclusion. The fact that Jesus turned water into wine in no way means that He is saying its okay for us all to go out and get drunk.
Getting drunk unintentionally is bad enough because you can end up being a danger to yourself and other people as you basically have lost control of all reason.
Moderation in drinking is okay but of course sometimes folks don’t stop and they might end up drunk.

However the OP is talking about people who go out with the deliberate intention of getting drunk. I would say that’s a grave sin.
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One of the biggest curses of ‘western civilisation’ is alcohol…if you read the full history of the settlement of America you will see how the indigenous population were often encouraged to partake in alcohol , whilst simultaneously signing away their tribal land. The same thing happened in Africa !!! In other words this cunning liquid has decimated entire peoples…never mind countless marriages ruined ; traffic carnage ; alcoholism…ect.ect. The youth especially should be made well aware of its dangers…:mad:
 
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