Ineptitude of Government run Health Care?

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In many areas, people do – for example, private security firms patrol many shopping malls, parking lots and neighborhoods.

Remember, the Court has ruled there is no right to police protection – even though you pay for it with your taxes, they don’t have to come when you call.
Actually, cynic mentioned “insurance,” which we also do - home insurance (can cover you in the case of arson, theft), life insurance (covers a family if someone is unfortunately murdered). Insurance wouldn’t protect you like a police force would.
 
Actually, cynic mentioned “insurance,” which we also do - home insurance (can cover you in the case of arson, theft), life insurance (covers a family if someone is unfortunately murdered). Insurance wouldn’t protect you like a police force would.
Actually, saying the police “protect” you might imply they** prevent** crime. What police do is respond to crime, which mostly means they come in after the crime is committed. One can make the case that catching criminals and locking them up does prevent some crime – but in the individual case, where you are the victim, the protection is minimal.

Insurance does “protect,” in that for most losses it will compensate you – which the police will not do.
 
Actually, saying the police “protect” you might imply they** prevent** crime. What police do is respond to crime, which mostly means they come in after the crime is committed. One can make the case that catching criminals and locking them up does prevent some crime – but in the individual case, where you are the victim, the protection is minimal.
They do both Vern. They patrol neighborhoods, which helps deter criminals. And, protecting does include responding to crime. For example, if a police officer pulls over a drunk driver, he is protecting the other people on the road. Your car insurance certainly pays for any damage to your vehicle and passengers, but it won’t protect you in the same way that removing the drunk driver will.
 
I’m sure catching and locking up a violent criminal offers some protection to the public.
 
They do both Vern. They patrol neighborhoods, which helps deter criminals. And, protecting does include responding to crime. For example, if a police officer pulls over a drunk driver, he is protecting the other people on the road. Your car insurance certainly pays for any damage to your vehicle and passengers, but it won’t protect you in the same way that removing the drunk driver will.
I agree – but patrolling in the density needed to provide protection to all citizens is beyond the capacity of most police departments – which is why so many upscale neighborhoods and commercial establishments have their own security.

And yes, pulling over drunk drivers does offer some protection – as does apprehending, convicting and imprisoning violent criminals.

But the police are not our bodyguards, which is the point I am making.
 
I’m sure catching and locking up a violent criminal offers some protection to the public.
You’ve made the point very succinctly – locking up the violent criminal offers some protection to the public, but not to his victim.

After all, he’s not a “violent criminal” until after he has committed his first act of violence. And he may commit many such acts before he is finally caught, leaving a string of victims behind him.
 
It is unfortunate that the freedoms we all enjoy also means there will always be a criminal element capable of at least one crime.

The way I see it, enabling the police to be any more proactive then they are could really compromise freedoms we all enjoy.

But what has this to do with healthcare?
 
It is unfortunate that the freedoms we all enjoy also means there will always be a criminal element capable of at least one crime.

The way I see it, enabling the police to be any more proactive then they are could really compromise freedoms we all enjoy.

But what has this to do with healthcare?
About the same thing that the military has to do with healthcare…'nuttin. 😛
 
Well, there is military healthcare…😃

We could look at that as being a great example of government run healthcare.
We have VA, Medicare, Medicaid, perhaps a couple of others.

None do a good job of caring for anyone.

Yet some continue to believe the government can solve our current problems.
 
You’ve made the point very succinctly – locking up the violent criminal offers some protection to the public, but not to his victim.

After all, he’s not a “violent criminal” until after he has committed his first act of violence. And he may commit many such acts before he is finally caught, leaving a string of victims behind him.
I don’t see yours. Sounds like
you’re advocating replacing a taxpayer funded police service with private police/security employed by local niegbourhoods (wealthy ones) who. presumably will pay for the apprehension and prosecution of criminals. What if the victim isn’t from said community? Are they going to send them a bill?
 
But what has this to do with healthcare?
it’s a users pays ananology. If I shouldn’t have to help fund the healthcare of others, then why should I help fund others protection from crime.
 
it’s a users pays ananology. If I shouldn’t have to help fund the healthcare of others, then why should I help fund others protection from crime.
Sorry, but this analogy makes no sense.
A policeman taking criminals off the street protects the society as a whole (if not the individual), the soldier protects the freedoms of everyone.
But how is medical treatment helping anyone other then the individual?

We are back to apples and oranges.
 
I don’t see yours. Sounds like
you’re advocating replacing a taxpayer funded police service with private police/security employed by local niegbourhoods (wealthy ones) who. presumably will pay for the apprehension and prosecution of criminals. What if the victim isn’t from said community? Are they going to send them a bill?
I’m not advocating anything. What I’m doing is refuting your preposterous notion that we don’t have private “insurance” of various kinds – including private security services.
 
…if only we abolished taxpayer funded police, then the poor could afford to purchase private security services for their own neighbourhoods. 😃
 
…if only we abolished taxpayer funded police, then the poor could afford to purchase private security services for their own neighbourhoods. 😃
When you left service, did you keep your barracks bag?😉
 
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