Inequality

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cynic:
that’s a ridiculousely hyberbolic statement. Are you suggesting the majority of students attending public schools anywhere are "destined for the vicious cycle of welfare/poverty/drugs that is the lot " or just the ones in the iner city? If it’s the former then that discredits anything you have to say. Exaggerated, and mostly untrue, examples are the halmark of people on the extremes.

Basically libertarians will say anything to make their point.
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The peers of inner city poor children would be other inner city poor children. If you don’t think there is a problem there, you should go see for yourself.

And you are the first to ever call me a libertarian, which only exposes your ignorance.
 
I note that beneath PatShea’s name is the word “suspended”. That person does not accept the social teaching of the Catholic church. He/she is an extreme individualist who shows no signs of “Love your neighbor.”
 
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gksaoh:
I note that beneath PatShea’s name is the word “suspended”. That person does not accept the social teaching of the Catholic church. He/she is an extreme individualist who shows no signs of “Love your neighbor.”
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No, no, I don’t think thats right, as far as PatShea. I think its more along the lines that the govenment does not have to help the people. It sounds more like he thinks it is the church and the people of the church that should ‘love your neighbor.’
 
If the Church, and Her people, would step up and remember the poor, we would not have to depend on the government. Not meaning to insult anyone, but in the early Church the Church members took care of the poor. Even the Scriptures state this. Now, we are left to fend for ourselves…some make 150,000 a year…others are blessed to make 20,000…thats the way I see it. No need for the government if people quit being selfish and think about those in their own neighborhoods that bust their butt every day and still cannot put food on the table.
 
It is very naive to believe that private charity could possibly cover the costs of all in need. Take the case of a person in a nursing home, the expense is $60,000 or more a year for one person. Most unfortunates soon exhaust their saving and are maintained by Medicaid. That program alone costs billions a year.

Most of the needy have person problems that require help from trained professionals. They cannot be solved by amateurs.
 
With the Tsunami in southeast Asia, private charities and NGO’s out financed and out manned all the governments and military contributions. Where government/military was of the most benefit was in the earliest responses because they already had in place the logistical means (ie ships and aircraft) to give an immediate response. But after the first few days, the private charities dwarfed governmental efforts. The same is happening with Katrina. If you know anyone involved with the recovery effort, they will tell you right quick who is doing the work…it ain’t the gov.!
Also, because in the US we’ve become apathetic about charitable organizations due to the attitude that the gov. should take care of it, we don’t see the hospital and hospice system that was the norm for the Catholic world. But in the 3rd world countries where the government is either too poor or not interested, the Catholic system is in place. That includes hospitals that operate on a “can pay” principle…if you can afford, you give…if you can’t afford, it’s free. It would not cost 60,000. per year because the holy sisters and brothers who run these hospitals and hospices charge a pittance for their labor, and the good people of the community contribute alms for the expenses of running the hospital.
 
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Catilieth:
Also, because in the US we’ve become apathetic about charitable organizations due to the attitude that the gov. should take care of it, we don’t see the hospital and hospice system that was the norm for the Catholic world. But in the 3rd world countries where the government is either too poor or not interested, the Catholic system is in place. That includes hospitals that operate on a “can pay” principle…if you can afford, you give…if you can’t afford, it’s free. It would not cost 60,000. per year because the holy sisters and brothers who run these hospitals and hospices charge a pittance for their labor, and the good people of the community contribute alms for the expenses of running the hospital.
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You’re absolutely right – look at all the whining over why Catholic schools are failing. They’re failing because we Catholics think “the government should do it.”
 
A lot of anger on this thread, especially from the guy who was suspended. To all of you who say that we shouldnt look after the poor I am very dissapointed. As somehow has said above : “Whatsoever you do (or dont do) to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me.”
 
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Magicsilence:
. To all of you who say that we shouldnt look after the poor I am very dissapointed. As somehow has said above : “Whatsoever you do (or dont do) to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me.”
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Who on this thread said that we should not help the poor??? I don’t know who you are referring to because I missed it.
The disagreement is in how we should help.
 
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