Inerrancy of Scripture

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😊 So, now I’m even more confused than ever.

Some say the Bible is only infallible in terms of faith & morals (which makes me ask why the Holy Spirit would inspire the authors to write all the other things that are obviously of some relevance, but need not be* correct*)

Others say that the Bible is completely inerrant, but that we ought to pay attention on how we read it.
The Catholic position on Scripture has always been that it is without error on faith and morals and also on everything else. It is the word of God, word for word. The imperfect people who received inspiration to write it did not mess up when they put the pen to paper, even though they were fallible humans. Even with the rise of science, Vatican I asserted it, Pope Leo XIII, Pope Pious XII, and Vatican II all reasserted the complete inerrancy of Scripture. The box to the right shows the councils and popes’ reaffirmations of this truth.
Some modern “theologians” at Vatican II wanted to limit the inerrancy of Scripture to “faith and morals” allowing “errors” in Scripture on historical events, dates etc… but Pope VI stood by the Church’s consistent position. The Vatican II statement “for the sake of our salvation” probably meant that God gave us Scripture for the purpose of our salvation. It does not make sense to say that God would put exactly what he wanted in Scripture and create an error there. To assume that the inspired writers made mistakes is to put the Bible on the same level as every other inspired book, which clearly it is not.
The Church’s official position on the complete inerrancy of the Bible
Vatican I: These books [of the canon] the Church holds to be sacred and canonical, not because, having been composed by human industry, they were afterwards approved by her authority; nor only because they contain revelation without error; but because, having been written under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, they have God for their author (De Fide Catholica 2:7).
Pope Leo XIII: “it is absolutely wrong and forbidden either to narrow inspiration to certain parts only of Holy Scripture or to admit that the sacred writer has erred” and condemned “the system of those who, in order to rid themselves of these difficulties, do not hesitate to concede that divine inspiration regards the things of faith and morals, and nothing beyond” (Providentissimus Deus 20).
Pius XII regarding Pope Leo XIII’s quote: “[a] solemn definition of Catholic doctrine, by which such divine authority is claimed for the ‘entire books with all their parts’ as to secure freedom from any error whatsoever.” He repudiated those who “ventured to restrict the truth of Sacred Scripture solely to matters of faith and morals” (Divino Afflante Spiritu 1).
Vatican II: In composing the sacred books, God chose men and while employed by him they made use of their powers and abilities, so that with him acting in them and through them, they, as true authors, consigned to writing everything and only those things that he wanted. Therefore, since everything asserted by the inspired authors or sacred writers must be held to be asserted by the Holy Spirit, it follows that the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching solidly, faithfully, and without error that truth that God wanted put into sacred writings for the sake of salvation (Dei Verbum 11).
source:
davidmacd.com/catholic/catholic_creationism.htm

So what IS the actual teaching? So much confusion is really getting annoying…
 
Don’t get your information from blogs. No matter how well intentioned, blogs are personal comments not official Church teaching.

At better source is the Catholic Encyclopedia online. Here is a good article on the Inspiration of the Bible to get you started.

There is a big difference between the Bible being inspired and dictated, as I wrote in one of your other threads. Learn what that difference is and then you will understand what the Church means by the inerrancy of the Bible.
 
The Catholic teaching is that Scripture is free from error in everything Scripture intends to teach as true.Therefore, since everything asserted by the inspired authors or sacred writers must be held to be asserted by the Holy Spirit, it follows that the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings for the sake of salvation (*Dei Verbum *11).
I hope that helps.
 
The Catholic teaching is that Scripture is free from error in everything Scripture intends to teach as true.Therefore, since everything asserted by the inspired authors or sacred writers must be held to be asserted by the Holy Spirit, it follows that the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings for the sake of salvation (Dei Verbum 11).
I hope that helps.
The first part goes:
Vatican II: In composing the sacred books, God chose men and while employed by him they made use of their powers and abilities, so that with him acting in them and through them, they, as true authors, consigned to writing everything and only those things that he wanted.
If there is something in the Bible, then God wanted it to be there.

Is that correct reading or no?
 
The first part goes:

If there is something in the Bible, then God wanted it to be there.

Is that correct reading or no?
That is correct. What some literalist interpreters do, however, is forget that God is capable of communicating a truth through an antiquated author’s parable or work of hyperbole. They will rather take any statement in the Bible as literal 21st century legal text of a crime scene.
 
That is correct. What some literalist interpreters do, however, is forget that God is capable of communicating a truth through an antiquated author’s parable or work of hyperbole. They will rather take any statement in the Bible as literal 21st century legal text of a crime scene.
I often ask myself, why God - who is omniscient - actually chose that antiquaed-style that would prove itself to be very confusing to many people in our times.
He could have simply went by the “legal text”-style and those in the past and us today would have had a literal book.

In conclusion then: it depends on how we read it, not what we read?

Can this very reasoning not be applied to any book?
 
What you need to understand, Shlomey is the Four Senses of Scripture that the Church uses to interpret Bible passages. God never intended to dictate the Scriptures word for word. That is DICTATION not INSPIRATION. Inspiration means the biblical authors wrote what God wanted us to know for our salvation–which means learning the means of our salvation, growing in holiness, and becoming one with God or union with God. He never intended to give us a history book in the modern sense of the word or a book of poetry or great literature, although the Bible certainly contains these things. Please read the material we’ve linked for you. 🙂
 
😊 So, now I’m even more confused than ever.

Some say the Bible is only infallible in terms of faith & morals (which makes me ask why the Holy Spirit would inspire the authors to write all the other things that are obviously of some relevance, but need not be* correct*)

Others say that the Bible is completely inerrant, but that we ought to pay attention on how we read it.

So what IS the actual teaching? So much confusion is really getting annoying…
Hey Shlomey!

I started a thread on this subject last May called Biblical Inerrancy. The thread covers a lot of ground, but if you skip to the end (post 102), you’ll see that the recent Synod of Bishops has asked the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith for a clarification on this dogma. So we’re waiting to see what happens with that. 🙂 Until then, here is some material (in addition to what can be found on that thread) that you might find helpful:

Bea then proceeds to raise the question: “Does the inerrancy asserted in Dei Verbum] cover also the account of these historical events?”, which he answers: “For my own part I think that this question must be answered affirmatively, that is, that these ‘background’ events also are described without error. In fact, we declare in general that there is no limit set to this inerrancy, and that it applies to all that the inspired writer, and therefore all that the Holy Spirit by his means, affirms… This thought, which re-occurs in various forms in the recent documents of the Magisterium of the Church (cf. E.B. 124, 279, 450 et seq., 539 et seq., 559) is here clearly understood in a sense which excludes the possibility of the Scriptures containing any statement contrary to the reality of the facts. In particular, these documents of the Magisterium require us to recognize that Scripture gives a true account of events, naturally not in the sense that it always offers a complete and scientifically studied account, but in the sense that what is asserted in Scripture - even if it does not offer a complete picture - never contradicts the reality of the fact. If therefore the Council had wished to introduce here a new conception, different from that presented in these recent documents of the supreme teaching authority, which reflects the beliefs of the early fathers, it would have had to state this clearly and explicitly. Let us now ask whether there may be any indications to suggest such a restricted interpretation of inerrancy. The answer is decidedly negative. There is not the slightest sign of any such indication. On the contrary everything points against a restrictive interpretation.” (taken from Unam Sanctam Catholicam quoting Augustin Cardinal Bea)

Father William Most:

“Since all that the inspired authors, or sacred writers assert should be regarded as asserted by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture, firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to be confided to sacred Scripture.”

Some say the above italicized words are ambiguous. That is, the clause could be either restrictive or descriptive. If restrictive, it would mean that only things needed for salvation would be free of error. If descriptive, it simply describes the Scriptures as for our salvation.

We admit that the words are ambiguous, provided that we ignore the context – which is something no scholar should ever do with any document.
  1. If Vatican II had really wanted to make that clause clearly restrictive, there is an unambiguous Latin construction that would have made it clear called qui quidem with the subjunctive. The Council did not use that structure.
  2. Vatican II added a note to the sentence in italics, which refers us to the statements of Vatican I, Leo XIII, and Pius XII, all of whom insisted that there is no error, not even scientific or historical error, in Scripture.
  3. Pius XII, as we saw, said the statement of Vatican I that there is no error at all in Scripture was a “solemn definition.”
So can we suppose the Church reversed a solemn definition in language that is ambiguous if we ignore the context, but clearly meaning the same as the past if we consider the context? And that it added a note referring us back to the very statements it would supposedly contradict? If there ever was a case of strained pleading, the objectors are giving it here. (Catholic Apologetics Today: Answers to Modern Critics)

And here’s something Pope Paul VI wrote after the Council:

“La Sacra Scrittura per la Chiesa è Parola di Dio, da Lui ispirata e perciò, nel significato autentico suo proprio, garantita da divina in erranza.”

“For the Church, Sacred Scripture is the Word of God, inspired by Him and therefore guaranteed by divine inerrancy in its own authentic meaning” (Paul VI, General Audience, July, 1 1970, translation provided by Father Brian Harrison of the Roman Theological Forum).

May God bless you!
 
I often ask myself, why God - who is omniscient - actually chose that antiquaed-style that would prove itself to be very confusing to many people in our times.
He could have simply went by the “legal text”-style and those in the past and us today would have had a literal book.

In conclusion then: it depends on how we read it, not what we read?

Can this very reasoning not be applied to any book?
Indeed it may be confusing to people in our times. The Bible is for all times, however. And it’s also why God gave us Church ministers who could authentically communicate the faith to us with the guarantee of the Holy Spirit! Scripture contains what God wanted written but there is a value that He condescended to our level in granting the sacred authors their own theological outlook within the text.

It may be valuable to understand that if the Bible were somehow written in such a way as to be legalistic, the depth of allegory would diminish. The role of faith would diminish. C.S. Lewis believed the use of allegory (sometimes referred to as myth) contained a depth of meaning within it that a list of factual data never could! God continues to unfold the meaning of His revelation to us throughout time, even from the first days of Adam and Eve through today, He builds upon our maturity as a whole body. Allegory has immense depth in this regard because it can speak to multiple generations and carry with it a multitude of meaning, rather than a single piece of data per verse.

To you last question, yes, I think for any form of communication or book it is important to try and discern what the communicator intended.
 
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