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mardukm
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A fellow member of ECF has agreed to let me attempt to convince him of the dogma of papal infallibility, so I hope everyone forgives my pretentiousness for starting a new thread on this matter.
I suppose the best way to start the thread is to present what I had thought papal infallibility was when I was not yet in the Catholic communion. The following were my (mis)conceptions about the dogma. Let me know which ones reflect your own concerns, and we can discuss them. If you have any other concerns regarding papal infallibility, please jot them down too.
I thought the dogma of papal infallibility taught that:
Blessings,
Marduk
I suppose the best way to start the thread is to present what I had thought papal infallibility was when I was not yet in the Catholic communion. The following were my (mis)conceptions about the dogma. Let me know which ones reflect your own concerns, and we can discuss them. If you have any other concerns regarding papal infallibility, please jot them down too.
I thought the dogma of papal infallibility taught that:
- Every teaching of the Church depends solely on the infallibility of the Pope;
- Since the Pope is the final determinant of Church teaching, his brother bishops are not true teachers but are merely his yes-men;
- Since the Pope is the final determinant of Church teaching, an Ecumenical Council is superfluous;
- Since the Pope is the final determinant of Church teaching, then nothing prevents him from canceling Truth or establishing falsehood (#5 and #6 below are natural corollaries);
- The Pope can make doctrinal rulings without recourse to the rest of the Church;
- The Pope can make doctrinal rulings without recourse to Sacred Tradition;
- Papal infallibility is the only infallibility in the Church;
- Conscience has no place in the Church since all Truth is determined by what the Pope says (i.e., the “just because the Pope says so” argument).
Blessings,
Marduk