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Teakafrog
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I will definitely pray for you DK. I couldn’t imagine the pain. Wrap yourself in Mary’s mantle, and give it all to her. She knows what it’s like to lose a son. God bless you and your family.
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Convert_in_99
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AWWW! That is SO beautiful! You are a dear Teakafrog! :heaven:
Dkoinzan I am so sorry for what you are going through.
You are in my thoughts and prayers, as is eveyond one on this thread! 
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aurora77
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Thanks! It’s been a tough last week or so.I am sorry, I didn’t catch what surgery you were having, nor when. :doh2: One of those brain fart moments I guess!Anyways, I hope you are doing OK.
Let us know the dates of the surgery (again for stupid here) and we will pray for you!
I’m officially infertile now. My doc knew I had a cyst on my ovary, it turned out to be the beginning stages of ovarian cancer. I had to have a complete hysterectomy. No one really expected this at all. I’m really upset on the one hand, but on the other I’m so greatful that this was caught so early. If I hadn’t gone to see the doctor about infertility, I never would have known about this, probably until it was too late. I wasn’t having any symptoms other than the infertility. So, I’m sad, but very happy at the same time.
Once I get healed up and get this whole menopause thing figured out (I never thought I’d be doing that at 30!) we’re going to start looking seriously into adoptions, so any advice there would be appreciated!
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Chovy
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Aurora. I am going to immediately start praying for you and will offer my rosary for you today. I am glad that this was discovered so early. May God give you the strength to get through all of this. :grouphug:
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dkoinzan
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Aurora77, you are in my prayers.
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Convert_in_99
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I am SO sorry, and yet SO thankful all at the same time! God truly knows what’s best for each of His children. What a blessing to get the cancer under control early! And, yet, I know you must be very sad for the definite infertility. You and your husband are in my prayers!
I do not know much about adoption, save the fact that it is taking more and more time now. A domestic adoption for an infant/toddler can easily take five, even more years! International adpotions are only slightly less at two to four years (depending on the country.) However, older children can take less time. So the only thing I would advise is start as soon as you are healed. I will pray for a complete and speedy recovery, as well as that everything can fall into place for your adoption! Best of luck with both!
God bless you and Mary keep you! :heaven:
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Teakafrog
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Not true. We got our daughter, at 6 days old, perfectly healthy, only 5 months after the very first phone call to the agency. In that 5 months we had referral calls on 10 different babies. Obviously they didn’t work out, some birthmoms decided to keep the babies, others chose a different couple, but point is that babies ARE out there! Our agency said the average time was 9mo-1 year for an infant. Unless of course you insist on a blond, blue-eyed girl with a medical family tree of 3 generations. Those are the ones that take forever. If you just ask for a healthy baby (our exact request, just a healthy baby), it can be very quick. So don’t get discouraged. Check into it when you’re ready, it can be done for less money and time than most people think.
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SeekerJen
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Eeek. I’m so glad this was caught and taken care of so quickly. Thank God!
I’m wondering if I should be thoroughly checked; there’s a family history of ovarian problems (including cancer). I’ve always figured I was kind of young and my gyn checkups have always been fine, but you didn’t have symptoms either. Thanks for telling us, I consider this a good warning.
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Convert_in_99
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Would you mind sharing your agency name with us? That is SO wonderful. Unfortunately, its not the norm today. We have talked to lots of couples and done much research. The quickest processes appear to be international adoptions.
We don’t care about looks OR health. We would gladly take a special needs child. But, please, do share if you are willing, as we long to adopt SO much. THANKS!
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Giannawannabe
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aurora,
I am so glad that you discovered your cancer early!! Because you did, you WILL be able to be a mommy soon(by adoption)! I will pray for a quick recovery for you. I hope you have nice friends and family bringing you dinners and caring for you.
If you’re interested, I can point you in the direction of the Catholic Adoption List. It’s a support group for Catholic Adoptive parents–an offshoot of the Catholic Infertility list.
As you know, I’m the mom of three adoptive kids. Each one a special blessing for me. Yesterday for mother’s day, as they were handing me their homemade presents, I told them that I had the best 3 presents any mom could ever have…THEM
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Convert_in_99
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AWWWWW! You are too sweet! But its so the truth. What greater blessing is there to women than husbands and kids? :heaven:aurora,
I am so glad that you discovered your cancer early!! Because you did, you WILL be able to be a mommy soon(by adoption)! I will pray for a quick recovery for you. I hope you have nice friends and family bringing you dinners and caring for you.
If you’re interested, I can point you in the direction of the Catholic Adoption List. It’s a support group for Catholic Adoptive parents–an offshoot of the Catholic Infertility list.
As you know, I’m the mom of three adoptive kids. Each one a special blessing for me. Yesterday for mother’s day, as they were handing me their homemade presents, I told them that I had the best 3 presents any mom could ever have…THEM
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Dan_Grelinger
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My wife and I have 2 adopted children (more details in a previous post on this thread).
My advice is to let all your family and friends know that you are ready and willing to adopt. And if you know any lawyers (all types, not just family law types) let them know too. We tried the agency route, but it was our friends’ contacts that brought our two daughters to us.
Be ready for anything. Our second was a surprise! Got a call on a Friday three years ago, and took her from the hospital on the following Monday. We were ‘first on the list’ because of our willingness to commit within 30 minutes, and to take custody almost immediately after birth. We also were committed to the children no matter what unexpected health issues would have popped up, just like we would have been with our own children.
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Teakafrog
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www.catholicadoption.info
Sister Dolora is the best. She has contacts with hospitals, social workers, lawyers, and agencies all over the country. She is also my DH’s great-aunt (or some such relation). Like I said, we had calls from several different states. Our ‘luck’ was simply that we would take a child of any race. All but one of the calls we got was for minority children. We of course, could care less what our child looks like, we just wanted a baby to love. The waiting list IS longer for white children.
Sister Dolora is the best. She has contacts with hospitals, social workers, lawyers, and agencies all over the country. She is also my DH’s great-aunt (or some such relation). Like I said, we had calls from several different states. Our ‘luck’ was simply that we would take a child of any race. All but one of the calls we got was for minority children. We of course, could care less what our child looks like, we just wanted a baby to love. The waiting list IS longer for white children.
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Convert_in_99
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Race is NOT a problem for us. I have bi-racial nieces and nephews. They are SO beautiful…the best of both worlds!
Do both spouses have to be catholic for the above-mentioned organization?
Thanks so much for the info!
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Teakafrog
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I’m sure that is not a requirement. They are based in KC, but I know she works all over the country. Fees are reasonable too.Race is NOT a problem for us. I have bi-racial nieces and nephews. They are SO beautiful…the best of both worlds!
Do both spouses have to be catholic for the above-mentioned organization?
Thanks so much for the info!
Another way to go is private adoption, it can be done very cheaply. We had a couple leads on that, one found through church, another through a relative. If you let everyone you know know about your desire to adopt, sometimes people know young girls who are considering it, and will connect you. You then just use an adoption attorney. Make sure you find someone who specializes in adoption, just any old lawyer will not know what to do. Each state has different laws, you must read up on your individual situation and know what to expect. You will need a homestudy, every state requires it. Who can do it varies by state.
So main idea is, read, read, read, and talk to people who have done the type of adoption you are considering, and done it in your state. Knowledge really is power when it comes to adoption, you’ll have less chance of getting your heart broken if you know what is required and how to achieve it.
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TraderTif
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Hey there people! My first post here, and I’m just looking for info.
After doing a quick scan of the most recent posts, I really want to learn more about this NaPro stuff.
I’m not married, so fertility is not exactly the problem, but I’m 24 and my periods have never, ever been right. (Indeed, they’ve been all over the charts, here, gone, long, short, no pattern whatsoever). I’ve gone to more doctors then I care to count, and they’re all clueless, becuase there seem to be so many possible causes in my particular case. They don’t want to investigate the problem, they just want to manage the symptoms! All they want to do is put me on birth-control pills, which I keep refusing. :banghead:
I keep thinking that there has to be some way to tell whether or not I’m ovulating! And I want to at least learn what is supposed to be happening every month, lol.
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Books? Websites? Etc.?
After doing a quick scan of the most recent posts, I really want to learn more about this NaPro stuff.
I’m not married, so fertility is not exactly the problem, but I’m 24 and my periods have never, ever been right. (Indeed, they’ve been all over the charts, here, gone, long, short, no pattern whatsoever). I’ve gone to more doctors then I care to count, and they’re all clueless, becuase there seem to be so many possible causes in my particular case. They don’t want to investigate the problem, they just want to manage the symptoms! All they want to do is put me on birth-control pills, which I keep refusing. :banghead:
I keep thinking that there has to be some way to tell whether or not I’m ovulating! And I want to at least learn what is supposed to be happening every month, lol.
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Books? Websites? Etc.?
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Chovy
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Sure- call the Pope Paul VI institute or visit their website. They are the “napro” people, and they may have a doctor trained in your area. I don’t know the rules about posting phone numbers and websites on this forum but you can do a google search and easily find it. They would have you start charting for 2 months, do some hormonal tests, and would be able to tell if you are ovulating. They may also be able to help “fix” things.
Mine was an extreme case but they did surgery and now instead of periods that are 4 months long or come every 6 months and/or every other week, I’m on a nice normal schedule, I ovulate each month, and my hormones are in a place where I could carry a baby. They work with all sorts of women, from young teens to elderly nuns, and people like me who are hoping to get pregnant in between. There are lots of reasons that women have irregular periods, but I looked for 12 years before I found a doctor (Dr. Hilgers) who actually wanted to find out what was wrong and to fix it.
Mine was an extreme case but they did surgery and now instead of periods that are 4 months long or come every 6 months and/or every other week, I’m on a nice normal schedule, I ovulate each month, and my hormones are in a place where I could carry a baby. They work with all sorts of women, from young teens to elderly nuns, and people like me who are hoping to get pregnant in between. There are lots of reasons that women have irregular periods, but I looked for 12 years before I found a doctor (Dr. Hilgers) who actually wanted to find out what was wrong and to fix it.
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mom2boyz
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We just returned a couple of weeks ago with our second adopted son from Russia. This time it took a couple of years from start to finish. Mostly political stuff. More boys are available than girls in Russia. We have 2 adopted sons from Russia. However you adopt, God will give the the exact right children. Best advice is to pray to be open to God’s will for you to find your children. Hang in there and keep moving forward. It will happen.
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aurora77
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You guys are great! I really appreciate the prayers and support.
Jen–if you have any concerns, you might get thoroughly checked out. I did some reading on line yesterday and the consensus is that this type of cancer typically shows up about 10 years sooner than other kinds of ovarian cancer. The good news is that it’s slow growing, so if it can be caught early it’s curable. One symptom I did have (if it’s a symptom, I don’t know) is that I was spotting for several days before and after my period, so I’d actually bleed for about 10 days. I don’t know if that was caused by the cysts or not, it may have been coincidence.
I have seen in the last week how God deals with these things. My aunt has been so supportive–she had to have a hysterectomy at 40, a little older than me, but she still gets what I’m feeling, just the same. And, this is wild, one of my fellow parish council members called yesterday to ask how I was doing. The subject of adoption got brought up and he said “you know our daughter’s adopted, right?” He had some great suggestions and said he and his wife are available anytime to talk.
I going up and down with my emotions. I know in my heart that we’re meant to adopt one or more children that otherwise might not have a good home. When they do come to us, we will be so fortunate. At the same time, it seems like everyone else can get pregnant so easily (I mean teen age crack addicts can have babies, why should it be so hard for a normal, well adjusted married couple!) But, there’s a purpose for everything.
It is kind of funny–we’ve been thinking about adoption, but I never really felt called to it, if you know what I mean. So, in my prayers, I kept saying “OK, God, if you want us to adopt, we will, but You may have to make it really clear.” I could have done without this clarity, but if it gets us where we need to go, so be it!
Jen–if you have any concerns, you might get thoroughly checked out. I did some reading on line yesterday and the consensus is that this type of cancer typically shows up about 10 years sooner than other kinds of ovarian cancer. The good news is that it’s slow growing, so if it can be caught early it’s curable. One symptom I did have (if it’s a symptom, I don’t know) is that I was spotting for several days before and after my period, so I’d actually bleed for about 10 days. I don’t know if that was caused by the cysts or not, it may have been coincidence.
I have seen in the last week how God deals with these things. My aunt has been so supportive–she had to have a hysterectomy at 40, a little older than me, but she still gets what I’m feeling, just the same. And, this is wild, one of my fellow parish council members called yesterday to ask how I was doing. The subject of adoption got brought up and he said “you know our daughter’s adopted, right?” He had some great suggestions and said he and his wife are available anytime to talk.
I going up and down with my emotions. I know in my heart that we’re meant to adopt one or more children that otherwise might not have a good home. When they do come to us, we will be so fortunate. At the same time, it seems like everyone else can get pregnant so easily (I mean teen age crack addicts can have babies, why should it be so hard for a normal, well adjusted married couple!) But, there’s a purpose for everything.
It is kind of funny–we’ve been thinking about adoption, but I never really felt called to it, if you know what I mean. So, in my prayers, I kept saying “OK, God, if you want us to adopt, we will, but You may have to make it really clear.” I could have done without this clarity, but if it gets us where we need to go, so be it!
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aurora77
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Have you tried charting? Taking your temp each morning? My gynecologist was able to tell by looking at my temps for several months that I didn’t ovulate. I was never clear on the whole cervical mucus thing, though, but my insides were a mess.
When I was first looking into this, I checked out www.gardenoffertility.com The book is great and the website pretty helpful. It’s not a Catholic site, though, she does advocate birth control for fertile times, but still, the basic info seemed really good.
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