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I don’t know why they say it, but I have had other Catholics, some of the ones who are the most active in the parish, call us crazy for having so many children. It’s not rare. We’ve also been asked, at Mass, if we are “done.”
My question was more rhetorical but I can give you an answer as to why this happens. Many good, church going, trying to be faithful Catholics get swept up in the worlds view of life - small families are good, large families are bad. These are the people who are easily converted to the understanding that family size is neither good nor bad.

I will admit that I always wondered at people who had large families (more than 5 children) but I have met in real life and on the internet many who have a true love of God and love for every child He gives them! This has helped me form my attitudes towards all sizes of families - the couples who are trying hard to have a baby and just aren’t able, those who only had one or two because that is all God gave them and those with more than two children in their families. Also for those who for serious reasons use NFP to avoid.
 
Congrats But I agree with Rico I wouldnt take it so seriously- everyone is always so concearned with political correctness you cant joke about anything. In hight school a black boy asked me out and I said “no” (becuase I wasnt allowed to date but embarrased to say so) and then called a racist for not dating him.
Some one makes a joke about big familys then suddenly thier ani-religiouse. UGH! And if he was being mean-so what??? Unless there is constant harrasment I would brush it off.
 
This is such a tough one b/c sometimes “turning the other cheek” becomes not establishing appropriate personal boundaries. This would be a hard situation for me b/c I’d get defensive :o That’s why I love the comments from MomaMary reminding us that we should let our lives speak for themselves. And yellowbird’s conversations are probably spot on. But I will say that I think it’s important to make sure that you don’t feel like you are stifling your feelings and just sucking it up. Maybe find a way to communicate your joy and/or the inappropriateness of the comment without being uncharitable.
 
Congrats But I agree with Rico I wouldnt take it so seriously- everyone is always so concearned with political correctness you cant joke about anything. In hight school a black boy asked me out and I said “no” (becuase I wasnt allowed to date but embarrased to say so) and then called a racist for not dating him.
Some one makes a joke about big familys then suddenly thier ani-religiouse. UGH! And if he was being mean-so what??? Unless there is constant harrasment I would brush it off.
Not anti-religious necessarily, true, but certainly offensive even so.

And fact is by not nipping it in the bud it gives the joker the idea that he can continue ad infinitum, so too often it BECOMES ‘constant harrassment’ when not stomped on early.
 
DW had our latest bundle of joy about a week ago. I’m taking two weeks off, but I stopped by the office today briefly. Attached to my monitor was a sticky note that read as follows: “[my name], Congratulations on the new baby! If you need any info on how to stop that from happening again, come talk to me [name of writer]” I don’t think the writer intended any harm, but I’m really tired of these kinds of remarks.
Congratulations!!! I really, really wish I had grown up in a family like yours. Your kids are so lucky.
 
I agree with the posts from everyone on being charitable (so that you can witness to the sticky-post-er), but also ALWAYS hedge your bets and save the sticky note and anything else this person may write for future reference if it gets out of hand.

Congrats! We have 3 boys, and wish we could have had more. God give us what we can handle, I suppose 😉
 
Well, I have six kids and have gotten comments like this over the years…but they were 99.9% from good-willed people just making a bit of a joke. And as such, I took it in stride. I’ve also gotten a lot of pointed remarks from large Catholic families “How old is your youngest? Isn’t it about time you had another?” So I see it from both sides. I have come to the conclusion that the vast majority of people out there have opinions—and often very strong ones—about family size. I suppose it probably has something to do with us being a social species who once lived very close together in tribes and such. Most of us seem to think we have a right to an opinion about what everybody else around us does----and a whole lot of us think that right extends to making pointed remarks regarding others’ families.

I try to take whatever anybody says to me about my family size in the spirit in which it was said. Most people are just making a light-hearted comment; as for those who are mean-spirited, their opinions mean nothing to me, so I can still easily smile and move on.

If this guy keeps harassing you, by all means put a stop to it. But coming down hard on him for a comment he probably only meant as a slap-on-the-back kind of congratulations will most likely not improve work relations.

Lauren
 
DW had our latest bundle of joy about a week ago. I’m taking two weeks off, but I stopped by the office today briefly. Attached to my monitor was a sticky note that read as follows: “[my name], Congratulations on the new baby! If you need any info on how to stop that from happening again, come talk to me [name of writer]” I don’t think the writer intended any harm, but I’m really tired of these kinds of remarks.
move to utah, people will be cheering you on instead of picking on you 😃

seriously… yep that was rude. especially if it was anonymous. i might be inclined to take it to HR and let them know that this kind of thing is not appreciated - it is bordering on harassment.
 
When I’m asked how many children we are going to have or if we are done I always reply, we are taking them one at a time.
 
DW and I have not been blessed with biological children but we are foster parents and have adopted 3 from foster care. I do occaisionaly get comments from people about how they don’t think they could do it but wish they could. I always offer to let them babysit!

Seriously, kids are nothing but blessings from God. How many other blessing can simultaneously teach us faith, gratitude, humility AND patience just by existing?
 
Some background:
I get a lot of comments like this, from line workers to bosses, educated and uneducated…and family.

One of the bosses and I have had some rather lively conversations over lunch. Raised a non-Catholic, he nonetheless went to the Catholic grade school where his wife now teaches. He has initiated most of these discussions, and I don’t mind as it’s been friendly and open. Recently, after his vasectomy, he’s been very cool towards me. I didn’t say anything out of the way to him. I really don’t judge his decision as I believe he lacks an understanding of why sterilization is wrong. But suddenly my lifestyle is threatening and personal to him.

We also have two new division heads, and both made similar remarks when I reminded them of upcoming family leave. They asked if this was my first child. When I said it was the sixth, the first blurted out, “Are you insane?” He quickly regained his composure, never insinuated anything about religion, and appropriately congratulated me. He did comment about his own vasectomy. I took no offense. Later, when he confided in me about his daughter in college and her entitlement issues, I thought to myself that she wouldn’t be acting this way if she had five siblings and appropriate religious instruction. But I kept my lips shut.

The other department head also commented about his vasectomy after two or three children. He also said something remarkably insightful albeit misguided. He said that he couldn’t see himself giving his money away to any more children after the two or three. He made no mention of religion. Again, I said nothing.

Shortly after the birth of our daughter, I called my mother, who is not Catholic, but who had six children herself. I am the youngest. She has often stated that if she were to do it again she would have stopped after two. None of my other siblings take any offense at this frequent comment of hers. I do. Anyhow, my mother said something like, “Congratulations, I guess.” Then she went on a rant about pregnancies in the forties, the dangers of radiation, and insinuated (I am sure at the suggestion of my Darwinist brothers) that I am some sort of genetic mutation as a result of radiation exposure. This, of course, is the only possible explanation for my being Catholic. She strongly recommended that I get a vasectomy. I said, “Mom, gotta go,” about three times and hung up the phone. This, I find both exasperating but also so ridiculous that I can’t help but laugh.

I have found being at home with my wife, children and new baby incredibly mind-clearing. There have been a number of principle-centered dilemmas that I’ve been struggling with of late. Now, the answers to these problems are quite obvious. Getting away from the mind-numbing conformity of the secular workplace has been incredibly liberating for me.

So, it’s with that background that I stopped by the office and saw that sticky note. No, this person meant no harm and it wasn’t specifically anti-Catholic (though anti-Catholic remarks, specifically about pedophile priests–a phrase the culture now sees as redundant–are ubiquitous). It was an attempt at humor in poor taste, and for me poorly timed. Am I being overly sensitive? Perhaps. Maybe I should develop the thick skin of a warrior. But let’s not be pollyanna. At this moment, we are losing the battle in the culture wars.

No, I won’t go to HR or cause a whole big stink. What I will do is give her a small tin of cookies, a Christmas card, and a family photo. And I will tell her that I am praying that she find a suitable husband-- a kind, gentle, and verile man–who will provide her with a quiverful of little blessings of her own. And that will probably get ME in trouble with HR.
 
Some background:
I get a lot of comments like this, from line workers to bosses, educated and uneducated…and family.

One of the bosses and I have had some rather lively conversations over lunch. Raised a non-Catholic, he nonetheless went to the Catholic grade school where his wife now teaches. He has initiated most of these discussions, and I don’t mind as it’s been friendly and open. Recently, after his vasectomy, he’s been very cool towards me. I didn’t say anything out of the way to him. I really don’t judge his decision as I believe he lacks an understanding of why sterilization is wrong. But suddenly my lifestyle is threatening and personal to him.

We also have two new division heads, and both made similar remarks when I reminded them of upcoming family leave. They asked if this was my first child. When I said it was the sixth, the first blurted out, “Are you insane?” He quickly regained his composure, never insinuated anything about religion, and appropriately congratulated me. He did comment about his own vasectomy. I took no offense. Later, when he confided in me about his daughter in college and her entitlement issues, I thought to myself that she wouldn’t be acting this way if she had five siblings and appropriate religious instruction. But I kept my lips shut.

The other department head also commented about his vasectomy after two or three children. He also said something remarkably insightful albeit misguided. He said that he couldn’t see himself giving his money away to any more children after the two or three. He made no mention of religion. Again, I said nothing.

Shortly after the birth of our daughter, I called my mother, who is not Catholic, but who had six children herself. I am the youngest. She has often stated that if she were to do it again she would have stopped after two. None of my other siblings take any offense at this frequent comment of hers. I do. Anyhow, my mother said something like, “Congratulations, I guess.” Then she went on a rant about pregnancies in the forties, the dangers of radiation, and insinuated (I am sure at the suggestion of my Darwinist brothers) that I am some sort of genetic mutation as a result of radiation exposure. This, of course, is the only possible explanation for my being Catholic. She strongly recommended that I get a vasectomy. I said, “Mom, gotta go,” about three times and hung up the phone. This, I find both exasperating but also so ridiculous that I can’t help but laugh.

I have found being at home with my wife, children and new baby incredibly mind-clearing. There have been a number of principle-centered dilemmas that I’ve been struggling with of late. Now, the answers to these problems are quite obvious. Getting away from the mind-numbing conformity of the secular workplace has been incredibly liberating for me.

So, it’s with that background that I stopped by the office and saw that sticky note. No, this person meant no harm and it wasn’t specifically anti-Catholic (though anti-Catholic remarks, specifically about pedophile priests–a phrase the culture now sees as redundant–are ubiquitous). It was an attempt at humor in poor taste, and for me poorly timed. Am I being overly sensitive? Perhaps. Maybe I should develop the thick skin of a warrior. But let’s not be pollyanna. At this moment, we are losing the battle in the culture wars.

No, I won’t go to HR or cause a whole big stink. What I will do is give her a small tin of cookies, a Christmas card, and a family photo. And I will tell her that I am praying that she find a suitable husband-- a kind, gentle, and verile man–who will provide her with a quiverful of little blessings of her own. And that will probably get ME in trouble with HR.
Dad of six:

You are a wonderful man. Your wife and children are blessed to have you. I hope your response to your co-worker will be exactly as you suggested it will be.

Merry Christmas and congratulations on the newest member of your precious family!

Udoc89
 
Congratulations! Don’t let a thoughtless comment get your goat. I think big families are so wonderful. Some people may make comments b/c they see the happiness they don’t or can’t have, or feel inadequate b/c they feel they couldn’t handle several kids.

From the outside looking in, it seems it was a really poor attempt on humor and not meant to be malicious. Consider the source- have you had problems with the writer before over this issue (or other issues)?

I have to disagree with some others here that suggest you should have a confrontation–I don’t think knocking heads with the person or being nasty is necessary whatever the circumstance.

If this person has made a habit of this kind of thing, and it wasn’t just awful humor, then go to a superior or HR. They get paid to handle that kind of stuff so you can work in anonymous peace, right?👍

Best wishes and enjoy your new bundle.😉
 
Dad_o_six, I think the solution you came up with is for the best. Your coworker probably didn’t mean to be insensitive, but I think people feel threatened by large families because they feel judged by the choices of others, even if it’s not logical. Praying for your coworker is probably the best way to go - and cookies never hurt! 👍
When I’m asked how many children we are going to have or if we are done I always reply, we are taking them one at a time.
You know, that’s just an invitation to God to give you twins! 😃 :yup:

:curtsey: :curtsey:
 
Just ask for some advise, “should we stop at a dozen or a baker’s dozen?” If it was me, I’d just give a almost nonsequitor smart-alecky answer, to give the impression you understand the situation, but you’ll be closed to any of their sugestions. If someone wants to actually ask you about your situation and not just give unsolicited advise, then open up in seriousness.

There are plenty of these threads here, and know what you are going though, so its not a bad place to either talk about it here, or just post some stuff for laughs.
 
DW had our latest bundle of joy about a week ago. I’m taking two weeks off, but I stopped by the office today briefly. Attached to my monitor was a sticky note that read as follows: “[my name], Congratulations on the new baby! If you need any info on how to stop that from happening again, come talk to me [name of writer]” I don’t think the writer intended any harm, but I’m really tired of these kinds of remarks.
Dude,

Been there. I have six children also and some of the worst comments were from family or complete strangers out of the blue. I just laugh and try to give good example of being a Catholic Dad. I once told someone that my wife just wants to be with me all the time and I am just too weak to refuse her, his jaw dropped and that was that. Just ignore it and hug your DW and little blessings whenever you can.
 
Dad_o_six, I think the solution you came up with is for the best. Your coworker probably didn’t mean to be insensitive, but I think people feel threatened by large families because they feel judged by the choices of others, even if it’s not logical. Praying for your coworker is probably the best way to go - and cookies never hurt! 👍

You know, that’s just an invitation to God to give you twins! 😃 :yup:

:curtsey: :curtsey:
You are probably right! Twins run in my family! You are the first to ever mention it, most people just stop talking about my children after that, and we only have three.
 
Dad o Six :console:

It sounds as if you are carrying your cross very well. :tiphat: Its not always easy. Here you are, welcoming the joy and love of a new baby, but you are faced with all these miserable comments. Take them as a reminder of why you are parenting the way you are, and how important of a job you have as a father.

Don’t give up HOPE in regards to the culture. Put that in the hands of God. Be a light for Christ, raise your children in faith and morals and let your actions prove God’s existence to others. God will do the rest. I find the ones w/o God in their life are the most vocal about my family size. I have had a woman to suggest an abortion the next time I get pg (I was holding baby#8 at the time). What did I do? I brought ALL my children with me the next time I saw her, and coached my kids to be a positive example of a what a family is. My hope for doing this? Not that she’d convert totally, but at least let a baby live and not go and abort another of her children. She had 2 children and had an appointment for an abortion of #3, but then she miscarried.

Sadness is all around us. Don’t focus on this. Focus on the beauty of your family! You are seeing God’s love in action! ❤️

God bless!
 
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