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I was looking at the Institute of Christ the King, but are they considered diocesan priests?

Also, I think the seminary is near Florence. I don’t speak Italian, so how would I do this?

I’m just seriously considering a vocation and this looks interesting. I don’t know if I’m called to be a religious or a diocesan priest.
 
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hamburglar:
I was looking at the Institute of Christ the King, but are they considered diocesan priests?

Also, I think the seminary is near Florence. I don’t speak Italian, so how would I do this?

I’m just seriously considering a vocation and this looks interesting. I don’t know if I’m called to be a religious or a diocesan priest.
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I am currently applying to the Institute of Christ the King, and two of my friends (who were active on these boards) just entered preformation with the Institute.

The priests of the ICRSS are not diocesan. Many do administer parishes for various dioceses, but they are under the authority of the superiors of the Institute. Others work in the Institute’s missions in Africa or at various other Apostolates.

The Seminary at Gricigliano, near Florence, is French. Seminarians go into a pre-seminary formation program before going to Gricigliano where they learn French, along with introductory Latin.

Are you in the United States?

If you have any other questions, feel free to send me a personal message 🙂
 
Yes, I am in the United States. I was looking at some of the pictures on the website and I’m almost jealous to see all these kids and first communicants experience those beautiful churches and the Tridentine Rite. I kinda wished I lived somewhere around one of the oratories, I don’t have a real Tridentine Mass near me.

So let me get this straight. I have to spend time learning French first? So it’s probably gonna take me like 2 years of pre-seminary and 4 years of seminary?
 
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So let me get this straight. I have to spend time learning French first? So it’s probably gonna take me like 2 years of pre-seminary and 4 years of seminary?
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No, one year of preformation, usually in your own country, where you learn basic French- in the first few months of seminary you will become more fluent since it will be full immersion into that language. Then you go to the seminary, which is one year of spirituality, 2 years of philosophy and 3 years of theology. All seminaries follow that basic system. After that you would be ordained a deacon and work for a year at one of the Institute’s Apostolates before being ordained to the priesthood.
 
hamburglar said:
Yes, I am in the United States. I was looking at some of the pictures on the website and I’m almost jealous to see all these kids and first communicants experience those beautiful churches and the Tridentine Rite. I kinda wished I lived somewhere around one of the oratories, I don’t have a real Tridentine Mass near me.
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If you want more information, you should contact Monsignor Michael Schmitz, the Vicar General of the Institute and Superior of the American province. You might recognize him from EWTN. His email is info@institute-christ-king.org.

Check out the Traditional Catholic Forum here. It has a lot of information and discussion on the Tridentine Mass and traditional Catholicism.
 
Caesar said:
No, one year of preformation, usually in your own country, where you learn basic French- in the first few months of seminary you will become more fluent since it will be full immersion into that language. Then you go to the seminary, which is one year of spirituality, 2 years of philosophy and 3 years of theology. All seminaries follow that basic system. After that you would be ordained a deacon and work for a year at one of the Institute’s Apostolates before being ordained to the priesthood.
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So if I complete 4 years of college at a University, it would take 8 more years after that. So… 12 YEARS!!! I’ll be balding before I get ordained 😦
 
Caesar said:
If you want more information, you should contact Monsignor Michael Schmitz, the Vicar General of the Institute and Superior of the American province. You might recognize him from EWTN. His email is info@institute-christ-king.org.

Check out the Traditional Catholic Forum here. It has a lot of information and discussion on the Tridentine Mass and traditional Catholicism.
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I also see all the pictures of the processions and Benediction. I can honestly say that I have only been to a Benediction once, and that was at a Monastery. I have never seen it at my parish, and we only have adoration like once a year for only like 3 hours during Lent. I really want to go to some of these types of ceremonies that I see!
 
hamburglar said:
So if I complete 4 years of college at a University, it would take 8 more years after that. So… 12 YEARS!!! I’ll be balding before I get ordained 😦
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There is no need for a university education prior to entering the Institute. While some dioceses and religious orders ask that you get a university degree before seminary, the Institute will accept you right out of high school.

If you do go for a degree, if it is a BA in philosophy then you might be allowed to forgo the 2 years of philosophy, provided that your university philosophy was on par with what the Institute teaches in the seminary (which is far superior to anything offered at a secular university).

It will take 7/8 years before you can become a priest, which is the same for most diocesan seminaries. Some religious orders have a much more extensive seminary education- for example, in the Jesuits there is a full 15 years or more between the novitiate and the final profession of vows.
 
hamburglar said:
I also see all the pictures of the processions and Benediction. I can honestly say that I have only been to a Benediction once, and that was at a Monastery. I have never seen it at my parish, and we only have adoration like once a year for only like 3 hours during Lent. I really want to go to some of these types of ceremonies that I see!
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Unfortunately few parishes today offer the beautiful ceremonies that belong to the Church. I am luckier then most people- I attend a parish run by the Fraternity of St. Peter, which is solely the Tridentine Mass. On Fridays the Office of Compline is sung after evening Mass, and on Sunday evenings there is Low Mass followed by Solemn Vespers and Benediction.
 
hamburglar said:
So if I complete 4 years of college at a University, it would take 8 more years after that. So… 12 YEARS!!! I’ll be balding before I get ordained 😦
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I know what you mean here. I am a college graduate, although in Accounting from Loyola. I just got accepted as a canidate to the Institute, but to think of 8 more years is not what I was hoping for. But, I would much rather that, knowing that it is orthodox.

Ceaser suggested writing Msgr. Schmitz, I agree. He is so helpful. No matter the questions, he always anwsered them with understanding, even when I thought they might be stupid questions.

You mentioned you do not have a TLM close to you. The only one I have is a sedevacenist church. I did attend there for about 2 months, did not receive any sacraments from there. Like you, I am a bit jealous when I see the kind of pictures you mentioned.

Good luck with this discernment. I will be praying for you.
 
Here is the timetable for the Institute’s seminary. It is in French, although the meaning is pretty obvious- L’Horaire

And the list of classes, again pretty obvious- Les Etudes
 
Do you think Rome will ever make an Institute priest a bishop?
Is this even possible or likely to happen?
 
It seems to me that a great number of young men in discernment are either going to the Institute or want to go to the Institute. I say God bless all of them. Personally, I am leaning toward the FSSP (rather ironic, since I’m fluent in French), but both are great institutes who are key to bringing the Church back to Orthodoxy, and spreading the Tridentine Mass.

A good seminary education is very important; a bad one makes for a confused priest–a good one unlocks a young man’s full potential to become a saintly servant of God. Remember that at the Institute, you will recieve essentially the same type of priestly formation in the same language as St. Jean Vianney, a very holy man. Hopefully this will help create more priests like him, who though humble and simple, was a shining example of obeying God’s will.
 
J_G said:
Do you think Rome will ever make an Institute priest a bishop?
Is this even possible or likely to happen?
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There has been some talk of giving groups like the FSSP and ICRSS titular bishops. There is some reluctance to do this though because this might distance traditionalists from their local bishops.
It seems to me that a great number of young men in discernment are either going to the Institute or want to go to the Institute. I say God bless all of them. Personally, I am leaning toward the FSSP (rather ironic, since I’m fluent in French), but both are great institutes who are key to bringing the Church back to Orthodoxy, and spreading the Tridentine Mass.
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A good seminary education is very important; a bad one makes for a confused priest–a good one unlocks a young man’s full potential to become a saintly servant of God. Remember that at the Institute, you will recieve essentially the same type of priestly formation in the same language as St. Jean Vianney, a very holy man. Hopefully this will help create more priests like him, who though humble and simple, was a shining example of obeying God’s will.
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Well, the Institute has it’s classes in French, while St. Jean Vianney struggled through seminary because the theology formation was in Latin.

But you are entirely correct about the importance of a solid orthodox seminary formation.
 
Msgr. Schmitz visited Catholic Answers in February. While here, he invited me to visit the Institute’s seminary in Gricigliano, which is a small town northeast of Florence.

I will be able to take him up on his offer next week, as I will be in Florence on business. While there I will meet Msgr. Wach, the founder of the Institute.
 
Karl_Keating said:
Msgr. Schmitz visited Catholic Answers in February. While here, he invited me to visit the Institute’s seminary in Gricigliano, which is a small town northeast of Florence.

I will be able to take him up on his offer next week, as I will be in Florence on business. While there I will meet Msgr. Wach, the founder of the Institute.
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You wont be disappointed Mr.Keating! The seminary is one of the finest in the Church I am told, and situated in the beautiful Tuscan hills. If you have the time, there is a small shrine to Our Lady in the hills near the seminary that you can hike to while praying the Rosary.
 
Pious_Mat said:
Personally, I am leaning toward the FSSP (rather ironic, since I’m fluent in French), but both are great institutes who are key to bringing the Church back to Orthodoxy, and spreading the Tridentine Mass.
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If you don’t mind me asking, what makes you lean toward the FSSP?
 
Dear Hamburglar;

The first question to answer is do you want to live out your ministry in the diocese that you presently in ? If so, doesthe diocese that you reside in give facilities to whatever order or institute that you want to join.

For example the Institute of Christ the King or for that matter the FSSP are not given facilities in the diocese that I reside in; which means that those individuals cannot function as priests, or at least not in accordance with church law.

In Christ’s Love,

Br Mark, OSB****
 
Br_Mark said:
The first question to answer is do you want to live out your ministry in the diocese that you presently in ? If so, doesthe diocese that you reside in give facilities to whatever order or institute that you want to join.
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What do you mean by “give facilities”
 
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