Institute of Christ the King's Server Vestments

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I have seen recent photos of Masses celebrated by priests from the Institute of Christ the King and it appears that the servers are not wearing the cassock and surplice anymore. They appear to be wearing a sort of blue cassock, white surplice, and a mozzetta that is cut in the middle.

Anyone know anything about this?
 
I think those are actually members of the ICKSP who are acting as servers, unless this is a privilege extended to their churches.
 
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This is just a guess on my part, definitely not authoritative and anyone is free to correct me if necessary- it may be that the servers are wearing the choir dress of the Institute.

I do know the Institute has its own choir dress, the color of which is blue. All their priests wear it when particular liturgical and ceremonial occasions call for it. Obviously the style of the choir dress is a bit different for priests and clerics.

It may be that the ICRSS has a choir dress for lay servers such as the individuals in this photo, and that this is what they’re wearing.

I’m not assuming anything, only speaking hypothetically here, but if its the case that you are concerned that the Institute is introducing a “novelty” into their liturgies, I wouldn’t worry too much about that. I know this is just anecdotal evidence so you can take it or leave it, but in my experience with priests and seminarians of the ICRSS I’ve come way with the impression they are uncompromisingly committed to Tradition (and beauty) in every way, especially in liturgical matters and details pertaining to such things as church architecture, sacred vessels, and vestments.

Plus, I’ve also seen many recent photos of ICRSS liturgies. In almost every one of them, servers were vested in the cassock and surplice.
 
I have seen recent photos of Masses celebrated by priests from the Institute of Christ the King and it appears that the servers are not wearing the cassock and surplice anymore. They appear to be wearing a sort of blue cassock, white surplice, and a mozzetta that is cut in the middle.

Anyone know anything about this?
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I am confused. You initially say that the servers are not wearing cassock and surplice anymore, then you describe a cassock and surplice.

There is no requirement as to colors–cassocks can be any color and often are, in different places.
 
I don’t know much about OF Roman Rite practices, but I recall that in the “old” (i.e., pre-conciliar) days, servers could be clad one way or another, depending on the place. Black cassock and white cotta (aka surplice) was the most common (at least in the US), but red cassocks were not unusual. I even recall some places that used plain white alb-like tunics. Also, sometimes there were big bows at the collar of the surplice, etc.

More to the point, I’ve seen other photos of ICRSS events (always remarkably impressive, I must say) and the servers are invariably dressed the same way. I believe it’s an adaptation of the Institute’s habit, which would be similar to what I recall as having been the pre-conciliar practice among the Dominicans (at least in some places).
 
hamburglar said:
I have seen recent photos of Masses celebrated by priests from the Institute of Christ the King and it appears that the servers are not wearing the cassock and surplice anymore. They appear to be wearing a sort of blue cassock, white surplice, and a mozzetta that is cut in the middle.

Anyone know anything about this?
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Is there a synonym for mozetta that is something like capella or cappella (“little cape”) That was the first word that came to my mind until I read “mozzetta” (which I had never heard before)?
 
FrDavid96 said:
Is there a synonym for mozetta that is something like capella or cappella (“little cape”) That was the first word that came to my mind until I read “mozzetta” (which I had never heard before)?
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Mozetta is a specific vestment for bishops, canons, and abbots.

What they have on are either shoulder capes over matching cassocks, or simars (which have the same look).

In either case, unless it is specifically permitted for the order in question, it’s not appropriate, since shoulder capes are specific for clerics.
 
Aramis said:
Mozetta is a specific vestment for bishops, canons, and abbots.

What they have on are either shoulder capes over matching cassocks, or simars (which have the same look).

In either case, unless it is specifically permitted for the order in question, it’s not appropriate, since shoulder capes are specific for clerics.
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Actually, it was more of a vocabulary question, rather than a liturgical one. I was looking for a word that sounds like “cappella.” Does such a word exist, or am I imagining it?
 
FrDavid96 said:
Actually, it was more of a vocabulary question, rather than a liturgical one. I was looking for a word that sounds like “cappella.” Does such a word exist, or am I imagining it?
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Yes, but it is no vestment: Capella Sistina. (Chapel) The phrase a capella is musician’s italian for Voice Only (Literally as chapel, and dating back before instruments were permitted).

Cappa Minor (little cape, tho I’ve not seen modern references to it)
Cappa (Cloak)
Cappa Magna (Huge Great cloak)

Cappello Romano: the brimmed priest’s hat.

Here’s an excellent overview of the various vestments, even if it is from an anti-catholic website: geocities.com/changes1611/hautepriestcouturevestments.html

And a link for the Capella Sistina:
christusrex.org/www1/sistine/0-Tour.html
 
Aramis said:
Yes, but it is no vestment: Capella Sistina. (Chapel) The phrase a capella is musician’s italian for Voice Only (Literally as chapel, and dating back before instruments were permitted).

Cappa Minor (little cape, tho I’ve not seen modern references to it)
Cappa (Cloak)
Cappa Magna (Huge Great cloak)

Cappello Romano: the brimmed priest’s hat.

Here’s an excellent overview of the various vestments, even if it is from an anti-catholic website: geocities.com/changes1611/hautepriestcouturevestments.html

And a link for the Capella Sistina:
christusrex.org/www1/sistine/0-Tour.html
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BINGO! Cappa. Thanks!

I remembered the reference but can’t “find” it.

It came from St. Martin of Tours. He took off his military “cappa/cape/cloak” and gave half of it to a beggar.

The place where that relic (cappa) was kept came to be known as “the cappa” which gave rise to the English word “chapel” and later “chaplain”

I’ve found hagiographies of St Martin (of course) but none of them actually contain that part about the word “cappa” becoming “chapel”
 
I think those are actually members of the ICKSP who are acting as servers, unless this is a privilege extended to their churches.
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Just as a point of reference, the initials of the order are ICRSS, just as the Fraternity of St. Peter’s is FSSP. Both come from the Latin names of their respective orders.
 
We have a parish nearby that serves the Polish-speaking community and their servers wear vestments just like these, except they are red instead of blue.
 
Aramis said:
Mozetta is a specific vestment for bishops, canons, and abbots.

What they have on are either shoulder capes over matching cassocks, or simars (which have the same look).

In either case, unless it is specifically permitted for the order in question, it’s not appropriate, since shoulder capes are specific for clerics.
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Hmm, my intention was never to question appropriateness and whatnot. ICRSS is always very good at keeping with tradition and not bringing novelty or anything.

However, it is interesting that you mention that it is only for clerics. I was thinking in my head “hmmm, they have shoulder capes on with a fancy collar. I’ve only seen shoulder capes on clerics.”

I have seen red cassocks and white surplices before, but never any additional vestment besides a cassock and surplice, so this was interesting to me.
 
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