Intent and sin

[coolduude]

Is intent the same as sin? Can your intent be a sin in itself?

For example, I intended to look at things I shouldn’t have. However, I never actually saw those things, however much I intended to. So did I sin through intent or am I clear? If I did sin, would it be mortal or venial?

Thanks,
Coolduude

 

[Shin]

By intent you mean you will to do it. That you are unable to do it, does not matter. It is a sin.

Mortal or venial depends on which sin, and the usual conditions applying.

Examples:

Tomorrow, you would skip mass without any real reason, just because you want to, you decide and so will to do this. Proper conditions applying – Mortal sin. Even though, you later change your mind and actually go.

Tomorrow, you would if you could, commit fornication with someone, but are prevented by circumstances. Proper conditions otherwise applying – mortal sin.

Basically, we sin first in our minds by deciding to do a sin, then again later on, by continuing in this decision and doing it.

Interior conversion so we would not even for a moment will to sin in the slightest is very important. This really involves continual prayer, and change of both exterior habits and interior thinking habits.

‘The humble realize that of themselves they are nothing, and that they stand in extreme need of help and grace of heaven; but the proud are convinced that they are full of grace and virtue. That is why God takes pleasure in showering His gifts on the former and in depriving the latter of His bounty.’

St. Augustine

 

[luvbp681]

I dont see how intending to do something, but then not doing it is sinning. How many times do we think in our hearts things we want or wish for and yet dont actually do it? Matthew 21:28-32, the parable of 2 sons; the first son who was disobedient by not do his fathers will changed his mind. the second son said he would do his fathers will, but did not do it. Who was the real sinner? think about it.

 

[SunshineZA]

Although this verse is about eating it goes for other internal - i.e. intent, sin:

“Instead, whoever eats something in spite of his doubt is doing wrong, because he does not act according to his belief, and whatever we do against our conscience is sinful.”

• Romans 14,23
  

 

[Shin]

How many times do we think in our hearts things we want or wish for and yet dont actually do it?

That is exactly the point. People are called to conversion of heart, and conversion of thought. Every time you will or intend to do something sinful, that is a sin. Just because you can’t practically at the moment doesn’t change the sin in your heart.

This is basic teaching I will add and not negotiable. We sin in our thoughts. The acts of contrition make note of this. We are called to purity of heart.

‘Sin is a deed, word or desire against the eternal law.’

St. Augustine

‘A venial sin is committed when the same thought comes of sinning mortally and one gives ear to it, making some little delay, or receiving some sensual pleasure, or when there is some negligence in rejecting such thought. There are two ways of sinning mortally: First Way. The first is, when one gives consent to the bad thought, to act afterwards as he has consented, or to put it in act if he could. Second Way. The second way of sinning mortally is when that sin is put in act. This is a greater sin for three reasons: first, because of the greater time; second, because of the greater intensity; third, because of the greater harm to the two persons.’

St. Ignatius of Loyola, ‘The Spiritual Exercises’

 

[coolduude]

Good points everyone.

So the general consensus is that intent is a sin? I suppose I should confess this then, eh?

 

[SunshineZA]

right

Douay-Rheims Bible

“I was dumb, and was humbled, and kept silence from good things: and my sorrow was renewed.”

• Psalms 38,3
  “Create a clean heart in me, O God: and renew a right spirit within my bowels.”
• Psalms 50,12
  “For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man is corrupted, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.”
• 2 Corinthians 4,16
  “And be renewed in the spirit of your mind:”
• Ephesians 4,23
  “And putting on the new, him who is renewed unto knowledge, according to the image of him that created him.”
• Colossians 3,10
  “And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery.”
• Hebrews 6,6

 

[SunshineZA]

With other words, we all need to put the old man under and allow the new (spiritual) man to grow.

“When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child. But, when I became a man, I put away the things of a child.”

• 1 Corinthians 13,11

 

[Pitcharan]

Is intent the same as sin? Can your intent be a sin in itself? For example, I intended to look at things I shouldn’t have. However, I never actually saw those things, however much I intended to. So did I sin through intent or am I clear? If I did sin, would it be mortal or venial? Thanks,
Coolduude

Our Lord Himself, made it very clear that lustful looks amount to adultery. However, there is a difference between “sinful urge” and “sinful intention”. Succumbing to a “sinful urge” and allowing a “sinful urge” to develop, are equally bad and amount to “venial sin”. Similarly, deciding and confirming a “sinful intention” in the heart and committing such a sin, are equally bad and amount to “mortal sin”. In my life there have been countless occasions when I providentiallly missed sinning and I can say, that many of them were in fact “sinful urges” and not “sinful intentions”. “Sinful intention” is something pre-meditated and developed with full awareness of the grave consequences after rejecting all good promptings of the spirit. If you are being prompted by the devil to comit a sin and develop a sinful urge, God and His angels and saints will do everything to dissuade you and save you from doing it. But if you have thought over the whole thing and clearly decided to follow Satan, then God may either let you go your own way or thwart your plan for His own reasons (eg., for protecting another who would be a victim of your sin). In either case, the sin remains the same.

Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. (Rom 1:28)

 

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[IrishAm]

You also have to connect the dots between “intent” and “not doing.” Did you “not do” it because, say, you were on your way and had a flat tire and couldn’t get where you were going. Or did you “not do” it because you realized the nature of what you were about to do and changed your heart and your mind? Definitely different scenarios . . .