Interest Poll: Who would be interested in a CAF Bible study?

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Ferdinand_Mary said:
Once you have decided on the particular topic/book to be explored, please have the person in charge PM me with the topic/book. I will create a new thread and make it a sticky.

Mane Nobiscum Domine,
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Thanks FM! [SIGN]What a guy! What a guy!
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I think…if you guys don’t mind, we should perhaps start with James because we have some “newbies” and because it’s brief yet meaty.

From here I think perhaps Mark…for the reasons stated above and again because it is brief.

After that…I would really like to drop back to the Deuterocanonicals with either Tobit or Sirach because the DCs are rich in insights and wisdom that many people are not familiar with.

I’ll open the thread right now and then shoot Ferdinand the link to sticky it, which will put it up in the top of this forum.
I’m really pretty excited about this.
Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!
 
Church_Militant said:
Thanks FM! [sign]What a guy! What a guy![/sign]
I think…if you guys don’t mind, we should perhaps start with James because we have some “newbies” and because it’s brief yet meaty.

From here I think perhaps Mark…for the reasons stated above and again because it is brief.

After that…I would really like to drop back to the Deuterocanonicals with either Tobit or Sirach because the DCs are rich in insights and wisdom that many people are not familiar with.

I’ll open the thread right now and then shoot Ferdinand the link to sticky it, which will put it up in the top of this forum.
I’m really pretty excited about this.
Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!
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Tobit sounds good for the third book. For me, it is familiar since it was the Scripture reading for my first month in my formation for Opus Sanctorum Angelorum.
 
We have a Bible study meeting in our Parish once a week. But I would love to study even more! The book of James is one of favorite books actually. I was in awe and encouraged the first time I read it. So to me it is a great idea to start with James.
 
Efrain said:
We have a Bible study meeting in our Parish once a week. But I would love to study even more! The book of James is one of favorite books actually. I was in awe and encouraged the first time I read it. So to me it is a great idea to start with James.
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Should be interesting when we get to James 2 😃
 
I will gladly participate as long as this Bible study doesn’t go the way that my RCIA class did… “How does this verse make you feel?” was the extent of it. :rolleyes:

Though with CM leading the way I doubt that will happen. 🙂
 
In addressing the mechanics, I suggest we have a moderator for this particular thread – to keep us Catholic and on track.
 
Verita said:
I will gladly participate as long as this Bible study doesn’t go the way that my RCIA class did… “How does this verse make you feel?” was the extent of it. :rolleyes:

Though with CM leading the way I doubt that will happen. 🙂
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Well. I don’t think we’ll get much into “feel good” stuff. I’m more of “What does this teach us and how do we live it?” The really great thing is that the church has 2,000 years of teaching that we can access, so it’s not like we are shooting in the dark. This can’t become a Sola Scriptura type study because that way leads to error. We have the resources available for the most informed Bible studies in history, as opposed to interpretations of men within the last 500 years.:rolleyes:

As we go along I suspect that many Catholics will discover (just as John Martignoni says) that they know the Bible better than they think and in many cases…better than most of the n-Cs that they will encounter.

Does everyone have a Bible they can feel comfortable underlining verses in or writing notes in the margin? If not then maybe you guy’s’ll want to get a spiral notebook or something to keep some notes in, just to help your memory. I used to write in mine, but have quit that. My new RSV-CE is too nice to mess up…but I use my paperback Douay-Rheims which is already marked up some.

Who knows, some of us may impress some n-Cs with our Bible knowledge (tho that isn’t our goal here) as we go along.

Sorry Annunciata but I hope to start this ASAP, but you guys are not locked in so you can contribute as much or as little as you can and it’s fine. I don’t want everyone getting legalistic headaches because you aren’t hip to every post. It’s a simple study. I want everyone in at whatever level they are comfortable with. Hopefully the thread will be a good study just even as a read.
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
 
From what some others have said, I think one thing we might do is establish some ground rules. There are several “Catholic” (as opposed to Fundamentalist) techniques for studying:
  1. The inspired writers wrote books, not proof texts, collections of sayings, etc. (Except for some books.) The books must be read as books and comprehended in that way before deconstructing them verse by verse.
  2. The inspired writers wrote for their own times and circumstances. This means we must learn about the times and world they lived in to understand their writing. The value of the writing is to apply their universal messages to our own times.
  3. Inspired writers were infallible concerning their intent – but not in matters of history, science and so on.
  4. Inspired writers do not contradict each other.
 
Church_Militant said:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Well. I don’t think we’ll get much into “feel good” stuff. I’m more of “What does this teach us and how do we live it?” The really great thing is that the church has 2,000 years of teaching that we can access, so it’s not like we are shooting in the dark. This can’t become a Sola Scriptura type study because that way leads to error. We have the resources available for the most informed Bible studies in history, as opposed to interpretations of men within the last 500 years.:rolleyes:
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Sounds great. 🙂

Does anyone have access to Jerome’s commentaries? That would be an amazing resource. 🙂
 
Church_Militant said:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: …Sorry Annunciata but I hope to start this ASAP, but you guys are not locked in so you can contribute as much or as little as you can and it’s fine. I don’t want everyone getting legalistic headaches because you aren’t hip to every post. It’s a simple study. I want everyone in at whatever level they are comfortable with. Hopefully the thread will be a good study just even as a read.
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
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I’m supposed to be giving up the forms for Lent w/ the exception of Fr. Leo’s Retreat…I wonder if I could squeeze this in as a legitimate thing too…:hmmm: I was going to join one in my parish…but definately would get more out of it here!:bounce: I’m gonna run it by my SD…:whistle:
 
vern_humphrey said:
In addressing the mechanics, I suggest we have a moderator for this particular thread – to keep us Catholic and on track.
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I guess I can do that insofar as it will be more of a facilitator than a Mod. FM will Mod us…(We always have the http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_cab/report.gif button if needed) and I can help us along. I do Mod another forum. (Catholic Central), so I do have some idea what he’ll be watching for.
vern_humphrey said:
From what some others have said, I think one thing we might do is establish some ground rules. There are several “Catholic” (as opposed to Fundamentalist) techniques for studying:
  1. The inspired writers wrote books, not proof texts, collections of sayings, etc. (Except for some books.) The books must be read as books
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and comprehended in that way before deconstructing them verse by verse.
  1. The inspired writers wrote for their own times and circumstances. This means we must learn about the times and world they lived in to understand their writing. The value of the writing is to apply their universal messages to our own times.
  2. Inspired writers were infallible concerning their intent – but not in matters of history, science and so on.
  3. Inspired writers do not contradict each other.Good points all, and I don’t foresee any problems with that because we are all Catholics here an the final authority is the church. (Non-Catholics who wish to participate need to keep that in mind.
Trust me guys. It will all work out. CAF isn’t gonna allow anything that is in opposition to our most holy faith, and you KNOW I wouldn’t be down with that. 👍

I would suggest that everyone that is interested, begin reading James now as well as any background you can find. This from New Advent should help a great deal.

OH yeah…one more very important point that I need to make clear. This will not, (repeat NOT) be a debate thread. This is about learning…take any debate points over to Apologetics. 😃
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
 
Lets start with the Letter to Philemon. It always gets neglected!

Subrosa
 
lak611 said:
Well speaking of short books, that one only takes about 5 minutes to read.:rotfl:
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Annunciata, Church Militant, Efrain, Lak611, Serene, Subrosa, Verita, Vern Humphrey & WanderAimlessly:

I know that Philemon is short, but I never saw that as a good reason to start a Scripture Study Thread with a particular Book.

I think the original list with a minor modification might be better:

James - It does have a lot of meat about living the Christian Life,
Matthew - The shortest of the Gospels & we would be through the Passion Narrative before Passion Week,
Philemon - Does deal with the N.T. View of Slavery, and
Wisdom - First O.T. Book that gives the Catholic view of the Afterlife.

I second Church Militant’s idea of a FACILATOR instead of a Moderator, as a Facilator can push the conversation along and introduce topics whenever it becomes obvious that we’re beating a dead horse.

And, I also second what vern Humphrey had to say in his post # 31 about studying the Bible as the Catholic Church’s Book instead of as a series of “Proof-Texts”.

But, whatever we do, I think we need to get the first thread going so that those who really do want to can join the discussion.

Your Brother in Christ, Michael
 
Traditional_Ang said:
Annunciata, Church Militant, Efrain, Lak611, Serene, Subrosa, Verita, Vern Humphrey & WanderAimlessly:

I know that Philemon is short, but I never saw that as a good reason to start a Scripture Study Thread with a particular Book.

I think the original list with a minor modification might be better:

James - It does have a lot of meat about living the Christian Life,
Matthew - The shortest of the Gospels & we would be through the Passion Narrative before Passion Week,
Philemon - Does deal with the N.T. View of Slavery, and
Wisdom - First O.T. Book that gives the Catholic view of the Afterlife.

I second Church Militant’s idea of a FACILATOR instead of a Moderator, as a Facilator can push the conversation along and introduce topics whenever it becomes obvious that we’re beating a dead horse.

And, I also second what vern Humphrey had to say in his post # 31 about studying the Bible as the Catholic Church’s Book instead of as a series of “Proof-Texts”.

But, whatever we do, I think we need to get the first thread going so that those who really do want to can join the discussion.

Your Brother in Christ, Michael
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Looks good, but just one point – Mark is the shortest of the Gospels. Matthew is longer and is traditionally considered the oldest of the Gospels.
 
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