Interesting Experience at Mass

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Our intellect and will are supposed to guide our emotions and feelings, not the other way around. Feelings and sensations are easily deceived - ask any former drug addict.
 
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Sounds like your intrested in health…a lot…have you heard of provibe…its on the internet it shakes you and cleans up your whole body,its very intresting …put provibe in the search engine you will see what i mean… And i dont think you are a wacky teenager i just think your young and searching…out lifes options…
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Me? Or are you referring to someone else?
 
cheese_sdc said:
I actually have attended both forms of the Mass, and I’ve attended many different parishes, as well as different Masses within those parishes.

Many of y’all have commented on the EF form as opposed to the OF. Sorry guys. The one EF Mass I attended (presided by a friend, I might add) I found to be sterile and lifeless. Please note that this is only an observation of one EF mass, by one particular priest. There is an EF Mass in my home city, presided by a priest who is well loved in the diocese - maybe one day I’ll have the chance to attend that Mass.

As far as “normal” Mass goes, the intensity of sensation which I have experienced at my old parish is pretty unique. Other Masses at other churches can be quite different, even energetically “dead” (but sometimes that is a welcome change - the attention and care that one has to give in an energetically charged environment can be quite taxing; sometimes it is nice to go to a place where you don’t have to worry about that).
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Thanks.

Your findings tend to confirm my theory that it is difficult - if not impossible - to suppress one’s own personal biases when called upon to render an opinion on matters with which one has had no previous experience. Unless, by energy level, you are referring purely to observed physical activity, I am unconvinced that it is possible to detect the variations you describe.

Or an I missing something?

If the OF liturgy were offered in a vernacular which you had no familiarity - if you were unable to observed the calestetics - what form of “energy” would be detectable?
 
mick321 said:
Thanks.

Your findings tend to confirm my theory that it is difficult - if not impossible - to suppress one’s own personal biases when called upon to render an opinion on matters with which one has had no previous experience. Unless, by energy level, you are referring purely to observed physical activity, I am unconvinced that it is possible to detect the variations you describe.

Or an I missing something?

If the OF liturgy were offered in a vernacular which you had no familiarity - if you were unable to observed the calestetics - what form of “energy” would be detectable?
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Not quite sure I follow you. I’ve attended thousands of Masses, of different types, from High Masses offered at Benedictine Monastaries, to low week day masses, to 3 hour long Holy Day observances, to charismatic Masses, to “normal OF” masses, and an EF mass. I’ve experienced Masses in different languages - Spanish primarily, but others.

My observation on both the EF mass and the mass is only that - an observation. The intense sense of energy I’ve experience is limited to one parish and even one particular mass.

You are correct, however. It is extremely difficult to separate personal bias. It takes a great deal of wisdom and patience to let the dirt settle and leave the water clean. I find that if you sit in silence and stillness long enough, sometimes issues become clear.
 
mick321 said:
Thanks.

Your findings tend to confirm my theory that it is difficult - if not impossible - to suppress one’s own personal biases when called upon to render an opinion on matters with which one has had no previous experience. Unless, by energy level, you are referring purely to observed physical activity, I am unconvinced that it is possible to detect the variations you describe.

Or an I missing something?

If the OF liturgy were offered in a vernacular which you had no familiarity - if you were unable to observed the calestetics - what form of “energy” would be detectable?
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Also, I’m not clear to your use of the word “calisthenics”. There are some that would use this word pejoratively [edited]. Is this the sense you were looking for? Or something else?
 
cheese_sdc said:
Also, I’m not clear to your use of the word “calisthenics”. There are some that would use this word pejoratively [edited]. Is this the sense you were looking for? Or something else?
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[Calisthenics are a form of organized exercise consisting of a variety of simple movements. Groups such as sports teams and military units often perform leader-directed group calisthenics as a form of synchronized physical training, providing a boost to group cohesion and discipline.]

I used the word as a substitute for coordinated physical activity. One observing a group performing a series of physical exercises would undoubtedly conclude that energy was indeed being expended. The OF Mass in general, and one performed in a charismatic style in particular, could be seen as an example of this.

Would you agree that spiritual energy could be more subtle, and less obvious, to one who may not be familiar with the inherent spirituality of the event being observed? Could it be that the thousands of OF Masses you have attended have conditioned you to accept its overt demonstration of physical activity as evidence of spiritual energy?
 
mick321 said:
Could it be that the thousands of OF Masses you have attended have conditioned you to accept its overt demonstration of physical activity as evidence of spiritual energy?
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Possibly, but then I’d be aware of it at every Mass, which is not the case. 😉

The sensation energy is either there, or it is not there, much like a stove is hot, or it is not.
 
I think that was a feeling of anointing… maybe?! I also feel that energy always when I’m praying… Just discover it, as for me, I’m trying to do so.
 
Or maybe you just feel that psychologically…

Many said that you are feeling the presence of the Holy Spirit.
Do you feel like you were about to cry?
a spark or a sudden feeling of being nervous?
or you want to raise up your hand to worship Him?
I still have a lot of questions to you because maybe you also felt what I’m feeling when I pray…

Maybe if you experienced the anointing or pray overs wherein the host will put their hand to your head and you’ll fall, I think that experience can help you identify the feeling you felt.

Just remember that maybe God has given you a message to your heart and it’s for you to discover it…

by the way, what is a Cheesian?

GOD BLESS!
 
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