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PerfectTiming
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Those are excellent! I love the colour!
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choliks
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Does the hood mean anything? Some say it symbolizes chastity. Or was it celibacy…?
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JReducation
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Actually, it means that buildings were very drafty and roads were very dusty. Wearing a head covering was a common practice around the world.
Why do we keep it?
Two reasons.
a) It’s a tradition that has been handed down for centuries to both monastic and conventual religious men.
b) I looks cool.
Not so.
b) When you put it on to pray, it actually helps you focus, because it isolates you from your surroundings as blinders do to a horse.
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Br. JR, OSF
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choliks
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Thanks Bro. JR for the humorous yet informative response. I was reading about John Michael Talbot’s (a third order Franciscan) marriage to his wife. It said in the article that he may remove the hood from his habit as it signifies celibacy. As I read your post, i realized that he may be wearing a different habit for different reasons. He may have just fashioned his habit after the Franciscans. It just looks very similar to the Franciscan habit (chord and all).Actually, it means that buildings were very drafty and roads were very dusty. Wearing a head covering was a common practice around the world.
Why do we keep it?
Two reasons.
a) It’s a tradition that has been handed down for centuries to both monastic and conventual religious men.
b) I looks cool.
Not so.
b) When you put it on to pray, it actually helps you focus, because it isolates you from your surroundings as blinders do to a horse.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
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iloveangels
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I don’t pay a lot of attention to habits, but I like the one of the Knights of the Holy Eucharist too. It looks modest, sensible and warm and you can work in it. I didn’t realize they were wearing brown jeans. Can’t get more practical or durable than that.I wasn’t thinking about it being like the Franciscan habit or less like it. I was thinking of what Perfectae Caritatis and Vita Consacrata have to say about habits. Both say “simple”. Their scapular and boots are not exactly what I would call simple.
The Dominican and Carmelite habits (which are really the same) have many pieces, but they are certainly very simple. When you look at them what you see is basic black and white or brown and white. The Franciscan Missionaries of the Eternal Word have a monstrance embroidered on their caperone, but it’s very discrete. The Trappists have a two-colored habit also, but it’s very plain. The Knights of the Holy Eucharist wear a badge over their scapular, but at first glance, it does not call much attention to itself. Their habit is also short. I think the fact that their wear brown jeans that match the tunic, it blends and you don’t even notice that it’s short.
My point is not about something being right or wrong. I’m coming at this from the perceptive of what the documents say about habits. Don’t take it as a statement of rightness or wrongness; because it’s not meant to be that way.
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Br. JR, OSF
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JReducation
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I really like their habit. It’s much more practical than that of the friars. The friars’ habit is to be worn without pants. It’s very uncomfortable with pants. In the winter, it’s quite drafty.
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iloveangels
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I imagine. I used to have to catch the schoolbus in the winter in a dress. Not a nice experience.I really like their habit. It’s much more practical than that of the friars. The friars’ habit is to be worn without pants. It’s very uncomfortable with pants. In the winter, it’s quite drafty.
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Br. JR, OSF
Besides jeans are made of denim or twill, which is cheap, very durable and doesn’t retain stains very much because of its “flex” properties. It can be scrubbed and when it dries it goes back into shape. Making things of denim or twill is actually more economical that it sounds because they last so long. **
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JReducation
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I imagine. I used to have to catch the schoolbus in the winter in a dress. Not a nice experience.
Besides jeans are made of denim or twill, which is cheap, very durable and doesn’t retain stains very much because of its “flex” properties. It can be scrubbed and when it dries it goes back into shape. Making things of denim or twill is actually more economical that it sounds because they last so long. **
You see! And people say that sisters shouldn’t wear jeans. Hah!
On a more sober note, the Little Brothers of St. Francis wear a blue denim habit. When they were first founded most Franciscans thought they were odd balls. But today, they are very well liked and very popular guys. However, their habit weighs a ton when they get caught in the rain.
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iloveangels
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Yeah, I can imagine. Jeans and rain are a bad combination. Denim can also be cold when wet, particularly if it’s all-cotton. Evaporative cooling and all that.You see! And people say that sisters shouldn’t wear jeans. Hah!
On a more sober note, the Little Brothers of St. Francis wear a blue denim habit. When they were first founded most Franciscans thought they were odd balls. But today, they are very well liked and very popular guys. However, their habit weighs a ton when they get caught in the rain.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
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JReducation
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I know nothing about fabrics. But I know that the Little Brothers of St. Francis were founded in Boston. They wear nothing under their habits except boxers and sandals, even in the winter snow.
If like you say, denim can be quite cold, I can’t imagine what it would be like to wear that habit in Boston IN January.
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Br. JR, OSF
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iloveangels
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Denim’s not bad as long as you keep it dry. You can even get winter jackets made of it. Just don’t get sopping wet!I know nothing about fabrics. But I know that the Little Brothers of St. Francis were founded in Boston. They wear nothing under their habits except boxers and sandals, even in the winter snow.
If like you say, denim can be quite cold, I can’t imagine what it would be like to wear that habit in Boston IN January.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
What worries me is not that, but their poor frostbitten feet! Sandals?? and no sox??
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Zacdecat
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The cassocks that I see worn are built for heavy duty…I have witnessed cassocked men playing rugby, mountain climbing,painting and chopping wood. Often times the cassock will have been hitched up slightly in order not to trip over it.Working cassocks tend to be liberally splattered in paint and other washing horrors like glue,grease etcIn wild weather if a sweater is wrapped around the head…it can give old ladies a fright thinking the muslims have invaded
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Most of us wear sox during the winter. Well, I wear shoes all year, because I’m diabetic. Diabetics can’t wear sandals.
The cassock was never a habit per se. It was more like a long jacket that you wore over your shirt and trousers. It was made like an overcoat, sturdy.
In wild weather if a sweater is wrapped around the head…it can give old ladies a fright thinking the muslims have invaded
The habits were and are made to be worn as the only clothing that a religious wears. They tend to be a little warmer than a cassock. In the past, habits were made of wool. Today, we make them of synthetic fabrics that can be thrown into the washer. You can’t throw a cassock into a washer. it would be like throwing a suit coat into the washer. If one examines the inside of regular cassock, not the kind that altar servers wear, but the kind that is worn by congregations and diocesans, it’s made like suit jacket. There are some designs that even have the shoulder pads that a suit jacket has.
There was a house cassock, which is rarely worn. That was much lighter. It may be the one that you’re thinking about that the men would wear while working or playing. That one was rarely worn by seculars. It was more common among regulars.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
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Zacdecat
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The chaps I have seen are the SPPX., but yes it is not a habit per se…I just tried to post nuns in habit on roller skates but I am not good at doing so…they look grand with the veils flying in the wind:thumbsup:
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JReducation
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The only nun habit that I like is the Benedictine habit. It’s very simple. The only sister habit that I like is the Sisters of the Pierced Hearts, maybe because I love that congregation. They’re awesome women. They’re always kind and excited about something.
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Sisters of the Pierced Hearts of Jesus and Mary
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CatholicFireman
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You mean you don’t like the “sattilite dish” habit, brother?The only nun habit that I like is the Benedictine habit. It’s very simple. The only sister habit that I like is the Sisters of the Pierced Hearts, maybe because I love that congregation. They’re awesome women. They’re always kind and excited about something.
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Sisters of the Pierced Hearts of Jesus and Mary
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Well, they’re not worn anymore so it doesn’t matter.
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iloveangels
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I went to Catholic school for a year when I was a kid. I was the pagan kid in class. My parents put me there to “straighten me out.”You mean you don’t like the “sattilite dish” habit, brother?
Well, they’re not worn anymore so it doesn’t matter.
It sorta worked. Sorta.Anyway, the nuns were SSJ. I never could figure out that big stiff bib thing that they wore. It was as stiff as a board and looked very uncomfortable. The mother superior-who was my teacher
had a huge pocket that she kept a men’s handkerchief in, and every now and then she would take it out and blow her nose like a 7 foot guy. It was incredible, and funny. But you couldn’t laugh out loud. Choke, choke. Softball was really the start of my conversion experience. I’m the world’s worst softball player. In public school, I was teased and harassed about it to no end. In Catholic school, I’d miss the ball, drop the ball, fall on my face, etc, and those morons would just pat me on the back, and say “you’ll do better next time. You can be on my team.” What the heck?!!?! I never did figure it out until many years later. But it’s the kind of thing I couldn’t just forget when I was as lousy at sports as I was - and miserable and 12 years old.
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iloveangels
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The collar, or whatever they called it, was very prominent. Here’s a photo of some sisters wearing it.
ipernity.com/doc/57114/4569901/in/album/75049
They wore a wimple too, which was tightly fitted to their heads, and covered with a veil. When they wanted to look behind them they pivoted on one heel and it made a noise because the skirts were long and heavy and the rosary moved. (You could also hear them coming. Shhhhh.)
Not sure what material, but it was substantial. I doubt that it could have been tossed into a washing machine. But this was in the early 60s, before the changes from Vatican II really took effect at all. Mass was still in Latin.
ipernity.com/doc/57114/4569901/in/album/75049
They wore a wimple too, which was tightly fitted to their heads, and covered with a veil. When they wanted to look behind them they pivoted on one heel and it made a noise because the skirts were long and heavy and the rosary moved. (You could also hear them coming. Shhhhh.)
Not sure what material, but it was substantial. I doubt that it could have been tossed into a washing machine. But this was in the early 60s, before the changes from Vatican II really took effect at all. Mass was still in Latin.
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CatholicFireman
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I was talking about the Sisters of the Holy Cross: google.com/imgres?num=10&um=1&hl=en&rlz=1C1DVCL_enUS441&authuser=0&biw=888&bih=475&tbm=isch&tbnid=tFWKvPGUNmb4GM:&imgrefurl=http://www.cscsisters.org/aboutus/Pages/origin.aspx&docid=6mns5BBkKkU9rM&imgurl=http://www.cscsisters.org/aboutus/PublishingImages/history.jpg&w=250&h=310&ei=levaTsP8DKOIsQLF7Lj3DA&zoom=1
My pastor’s aunt worn it until she passed a couple of years ago.
My pastor’s aunt worn it until she passed a couple of years ago.
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