Interesting, Odd, or "Different" Habits

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You mean you don’t like the “sattilite dish” habit, brother? 😃 😉

Well, they’re not worn anymore so it doesn’t matter. 🙂
If there was ever a reason not to be a Nun at that time, it would be that stiff board they put around their necks. 😃

But really, I have no clue how they managed it. If I were a Nun at that time I would probably take it off anytime I was able. Talk about a way to get Nuns to volunteer for dirty work. 😃
 
You mean you don’t like the “sattilite dish” habit, brother? 😃 😉

Well, they’re not worn anymore so it doesn’t matter. 🙂
We used to call them Sunflower Sisters.
The collar, or whatever they called it, was very prominent. Here’s a photo of some sisters wearing it.

ipernity.com/doc/57114/4569901/in/album/75049

They wore a wimple too, which was tightly fitted to their heads, and covered with a veil. When they wanted to look behind them they pivoted on one heel and it made a noise because the skirts were long and heavy and the rosary moved. (You could also hear them coming. Shhhhh.)
Not sure what material, but it was substantial. I doubt that it could have been tossed into a washing machine. But this was in the early 60s, before the changes from Vatican II really took effect at all. Mass was still in Latin.
The collar was cotton. It was starched. Then it had to be pressed. The also wore a bandeau, which is the head band that covers the forehead. This too was starched cotton. The piece that covered the cheeks was called the guimpe. It was a straight piece of cotton that was about 6in wide. It was draped over the head and held together under the chin with pins. The collar would cover the tails that hung in front. All of this was pinned on to a capt like that worn by nurses in surgery.

Unlike nuns who only wore one veil during the day, sisters often wore two veils. The under veil was a solid fabric, usually serge. That’s the veil that you see forming the triangle. It was hung so that it formed a triangular shape. Over it was the chapel veil which was sheer. This was a remnant from the 15th century when the sisters put the chapel veil over their faces, as did widows going to a funeral. Because that’s where many of these habits came from, widows’ garbs.

The SSJs had a very complicated habit. Because they were French, they had a custom of wearing a corset under their shift, this gave even the fattest sister an hour glass figure. OK, there were some hour glasses that were larger than others. 😃

They put on a long black tunic to that had to be exactly 3" from the floor. Over that tunic they wore an apron that was more like a wrap around skirt with tons of pleats that had to be ironed on. The rosary was added later. Everything was held together at the waist by a black cord that you could barely see, because it disappeared into the folds of the skirt.

In the case of the SSJs, the founder, who was a French Jesuit never gave them a formal habit. Their first mother was a widow. This was what she wore. The women who joined her wore the same clothing. The French are notorious for pleats. I don’t know why they like them so much. But every French habit has fluted head pieces or pleats on the tunic, even men. The Franciscans (TOR) are of French origin. Their habit has 12 pleats in from and 12 in back. When these congregations of women were founded, they dressed rather fashionably. In other words, these were the fashions of the time, albeit they were considered simple compared to what wealthy women wore.

These habits wee a pain to maintain. There were no dryers then. They did not have wash and wear fabrics. They had to be ironed. Every sister had two habits and she wore one for a week before washing it, because they did not have the time to do laundry more than once a week.
If there was ever a reason not to be a Nun at that time, it would be that stiff board they put around their necks. 😃

But really, I have no clue how they managed it. If I were a Nun at that time I would probably take it off anytime I was able. Talk about a way to get Nuns to volunteer for dirty work. 😃
When they were in the convent, they took off the collar and the outer veil. Some communities took of the habit itself and wore a housecoat.

I remember when it was illegal to wear religious garb in public in Mexico. The sisters had to take all those pieces off, put on a blouse and skirt to run to the drugstore and then come back and get into the habit again. THAT, must have been a pain in the neck. If I had to wear so many pins to hold my clothes on, I’d probably sleep in them until laundry day. 😃

The Franciscan nuns were funny. They often did farming. They would wear a very large gardening had over their veils to keep cool. I could never figure out how that kept them cool.

Here is a little trick that all of us used, men and women religious which lay people may want to learn. The best way to keep cook in summer is to wear a men’s t-shirt under your clothes. The t-shirt absorbs the sweat. What often make you uncomfortable is the sweaty clothing sticking to your body. T-shirts do not stick to your body, because cotton does not do that. Also, the t-shirt gets wet and keeps you cool. You change the t-shirt and put on the same habit the next day.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Gotta love simplicity. 🙂
That’s why I love my Sisters of the Pierced Hearts. The habit is simple, practical, identifiable and as Vatican II said, “becoming”.

Don’t ask me what becoming is supposed to mean.

Fraternally,

Br.JR, OSF 🙂
 
We used to call them Sunflower Sisters.

The collar was cotton. It was starched. Then it had to be pressed. The also wore a bandeau, which is the head band that covers the forehead. This too was starched cotton. The piece that covered the cheeks was called the guimpe. It was a straight piece of cotton that was about 6in wide. It was draped over the head and held together under the chin with pins. The collar would cover the tails that hung in front. All of this was pinned on to a capt like that worn by nurses in surgery.

Unlike nuns who only wore one veil during the day, sisters often wore two veils. The under veil was a solid fabric, usually serge. That’s the veil that you see forming the triangle. It was hung so that it formed a triangular shape. Over it was the chapel veil which was sheer. This was a remnant from the 15th century when the sisters put the chapel veil over their faces, as did widows going to a funeral. Because that’s where many of these habits came from, widows’ garbs.

The SSJs had a very complicated habit. Because they were French, they had a custom of wearing a corset under their shift, this gave even the fattest sister an hour glass figure. OK, there were some hour glasses that were larger than others. 😃

They put on a long black tunic to that had to be exactly 3" from the floor. Over that tunic they wore an apron that was more like a wrap around skirt with tons of pleats that had to be ironed on. The rosary was added later. Everything was held together at the waist by a black cord that you could barely see, because it disappeared into the folds of the skirt.

In the case of the SSJs, the founder, who was a French Jesuit never gave them a formal habit. Their first mother was a widow. This was what she wore. The women who joined her wore the same clothing. The French are notorious for pleats. I don’t know why they like them so much. But every French habit has fluted head pieces or pleats on the tunic, even men. The Franciscans (TOR) are of French origin. Their habit has 12 pleats in from and 12 in back. When these congregations of women were founded, they dressed rather fashionably. In other words, these were the fashions of the time, albeit they were considered simple compared to what wealthy women wore.

These habits wee a pain to maintain. There were no dryers then. They did not have wash and wear fabrics. They had to be ironed. Every sister had two habits and she wore one for a week before washing it, because they did not have the time to do laundry more than once a week.

When they were in the convent, they took off the collar and the outer veil. Some communities took of the habit itself and wore a housecoat.

I remember when it was illegal to wear religious garb in public in Mexico. The sisters had to take all those pieces off, put on a blouse and skirt to run to the drugstore and then come back and get into the habit again. THAT, must have been a pain in the neck. If I had to wear so many pins to hold my clothes on, I’d probably sleep in them until laundry day. 😃

The Franciscan nuns were funny. They often did farming. They would wear a very large gardening had over their veils to keep cool. I could never figure out how that kept them cool.

Here is a little trick that all of us used, men and women religious which lay people may want to learn. The best way to keep cook in summer is to wear a men’s t-shirt under your clothes. The t-shirt absorbs the sweat. What often make you uncomfortable is the sweaty clothing sticking to your body. T-shirts do not stick to your body, because cotton does not do that. Also, the t-shirt gets wet and keeps you cool. You change the t-shirt and put on the same habit the next day.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Yes, you’re right. It had little pleats in the front. I didn’t realize they had a corset on. Ouch. I know that they stood ram upright all the time. And if they had to turn around, they wheeled around with a characteristic sound, with all that fabric and the large rosary. They also wore very uncomfortable-looking shoes, very old fashioned looking even in 1962. They must have been miserable.

I never noticed that they didn’t wash those things every day. There was so much fabric it probably didn’t matter. And wool doesn’t behave like cotton that way anyway. [And I was 12. LOL. If anyone was -shall we say- fragrant, it was probably me!]

What doesn’t show when you just look at the habit is that they had huge pockets. It’s the way the habit was tailored apparently.
 
My two favorites from my Catholic travels…

THe Holy SPirit Adoration Sisters in Philadelphia
are pretty in pink
holyspiritadorationsisters.org/henrita.html
I love these. If I saw these sisters when I was 20, I could have been strongly swayed toward the consecrated life.

I can’t find a picture online, but I got a kick out of the blue jean habits I saw in Washington, DC at the Nat’l March for Life. We called them the Order of Levi Strauss. 🙂
 
That’s why I love my Sisters of the Pierced Hearts. The habit is simple, practical, identifiable and as Vatican II said, “becoming”.

Don’t ask me what becoming is supposed to mean.

Fraternally,

Br.JR, OSF 🙂
I suspect it is intended to mean “Not going to scare away potential vocations with it’s complexity nor color choices”…
 
I suspect it is intended to mean “Not going to scare away potential vocations with it’s complexity nor color choices”…
I once told a brother that we needed to adopt a pill box hat. Perfectae Caritatis was written during the Kennedy years. Jackie had made that particular hat very becoming.

Instead of a skull cap, why not a pill box hat? 😃

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
There’s this congregation of nuns:

rednuns.com/about/

I never knew that a contemplative congregation existed that wore red!

When I was in high school one of the Sisters (a different order) was the chaperone for the ski club. We kids were supposed to go to a ski lesson, and then had a couple of hours of recreational skiing. That being the seventies, most of us wore the knock-off Air Force drab parkas, and blue jeans for skiing (and yes, wet denim is cold!) With a busload of about twenty-five of us, we schemed to come up with this plan: We used to rotate going to ski lessons, and some of us would go up the mountain, into the woods, and smoke cigarettes. We thought that we’d be able to camoflague ourselves by dressing fairly identically, and could get out of going to ski lessons. We used to take turns doing this.

I was in the latter group one night when from uphill we heard, “A-Ha!” I looked uphill to see what looked like Batman on skis, in a tuck, bearing down on us. I kicked out of the woods, went into an aerodynamic tuck, and fled downhill. It was Sister, who had spotted us, rented a pair of skis, and came up in hot pursuit of us. The long veil and scapular trailed behind her in the wind. You’d think she would have tripped up, but no! She was rock stable on those skis, and she caught up with me (and I was pretty fast.) She tore off my lift ticket and ordered me back to the base lodge. She nabbed a few other truants as well. We all had to write out catechism questions and answers a hundred times as punishment.

But I couldn’t resist. Sister was on the younger side, maybe her mid thirties, and moved with the easy grace of a natural athlete in the classroom. That long habit made her look like she glided when she walked. So in the bus on the way back home, I begged pardon, and asked her where she had learned to ski like that.

She drew herself up in her bus seat: “Of course, Odile, you must be aware that I wasn’t born a sister! Before I joined the convent, I was on the 1968 US Alpine team, and downhill was my best event!”

Yep, Sister could really move in that habit!
 
There’s this congregation of nuns:

rednuns.com/about/

I never knew that a contemplative congregation existed that wore red!

When I was in high school one of the Sisters (a different order) was the chaperone for the ski club. We kids were supposed to go to a ski lesson, and then had a couple of hours of recreational skiing. That being the seventies, most of us wore the knock-off Air Force drab parkas, and blue jeans for skiing (and yes, wet denim is cold!) With a busload of about twenty-five of us, we schemed to come up with this plan: We used to rotate going to ski lessons, and some of us would go up the mountain, into the woods, and smoke cigarettes. We thought that we’d be able to camoflague ourselves by dressing fairly identically, and could get out of going to ski lessons. We used to take turns doing this.

I was in the latter group one night when from uphill we heard, “A-Ha!” I looked uphill to see what looked like Batman on skis, in a tuck, bearing down on us. I kicked out of the woods, went into an aerodynamic tuck, and fled downhill. It was Sister, who had spotted us, rented a pair of skis, and came up in hot pursuit of us. The long veil and scapular trailed behind her in the wind. You’d think she would have tripped up, but no! She was rock stable on those skis, and she caught up with me (and I was pretty fast.) She tore off my lift ticket and ordered me back to the base lodge. She nabbed a few other truants as well. We all had to write out catechism questions and answers a hundred times as punishment.

But I couldn’t resist. Sister was on the younger side, maybe her mid thirties, and moved with the easy grace of a natural athlete in the classroom. That long habit made her look like she glided when she walked. So in the bus on the way back home, I begged pardon, and asked her where she had learned to ski like that.

She drew herself up in her bus seat: “Of course, Odile, you must be aware that I wasn’t born a sister! Before I joined the convent, I was on the 1968 US Alpine team, and downhill was my best event!”

Yep, Sister could really move in that habit!
It’s read alright. 😉

I knew that there were Redemptoristine Sisters. I just imagined that they wore black as do the CSsR.

Live and learn.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Let’s not forget the Holy Spirit Adoration Sisters or “The Pink Sisters”. Well, they say rose colored. They’re cloistered, but when they have to go out in the world they wear gray habits.

adorationsisters.org/index.html
 
In 2009, the Franciscan family celebrated its 800 birthday. We were actually founded before then, but the formal approval came in 1209. There was a Chapter of Mas in Assisi. Every branch of the Franciscan family was to send one male Franciscan. Only the Secular Francisans could send a female.

Long story short, there were 1200 brothers in Assisi. The Holy Father had said that he has a special interest in meeting the delegation after they concluded the chapter. Since there was no way to get all 1200 from Assisi to Castel Gandolfo in any orderly manner, they walked. It’s about 50 miles.

There were these 1200 brothers walking down the roads and highways of Italy. One Italian reporter commented that he never knew that there were more than 500 variations of the Franciscan habit and if it were not for the cord, you would recognize them. They come in blue, brown, grey, black khaki, white and then they have variations with scapular, no scapular, shoulder cape, no cape, collars, no collar, small cowls, long cowls, square cowls, stiff cowls, soft cowls, no cowls.

All of this, because Francis said that as long as it was a tunic with a cord, he could care less. And Clare would add after his death, that the habit was to be designed according to custom, climate, work and the taste of the brothers and sisters.

If you want to identify a Franciscan man, look for the guy who’s holding up his belly with his cord. 😃
I never knew there was such variation! Goodness, that’s cool.
 
Let’s not forget the Holy Spirit Adoration Sisters or “The Pink Sisters”. Well, they say rose colored. They’re cloistered, but when they have to go out in the world they wear gray habits.

adorationsisters.org/index.html
I wonder why they wear grey outside. The rose colour is so pretty!

Pity they don’t have any communities in the UK or I’d totally consider joining them. Less for the pink habits and more for the Adoration. Their website says each sister gets to spend time before the Blessed Sacrament every day, how awesome would that be?
 
I wonder why they wear grey outside. The rose colour is so pretty!

Pity they don’t have any communities in the UK or I’d totally consider joining them. Less for the pink habits and more for the Adoration. Their website says each sister gets to spend time before the Blessed Sacrament every day, how awesome would that be?
They seem to be wonderful. No, they are wonderful. I bet if you contact them they will tell you if they have plans to form a community in the UK.

I’m sure there are other orders who are dedicated to Adoration like the Poor Claires.

Good luck. I will pray for your vocation journey. 🙂
 
I once told a brother that we needed to adopt a pill box hat. Perfectae Caritatis was written during the Kennedy years. Jackie had made that particular hat very becoming.

Instead of a skull cap, why not a pill box hat? 😃

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Pink, to go with the pink slippers of a previous post.
 
I never knew there was such variation! Goodness, that’s cool.
Francis and Clare were not too big on habits. They were big on poverty. Our idea of a habit is some kind of uniform that sets you apart from the layman. For Francis and Clare, the habit was a manner of dress that set you apart as a poor and penitential man or woman. They could care less if anyone knew that you were a religious.

If you read the writings of the Franciscan founders there are two groups that are not mentioned in the rule, the testaments or the admonitions: priests and laity. In their mind the order existed for one purpose only, to live the Gospel in obedience. Obedience to the Gospel demanded that “you give everything you have to the poor and follow me.”

The habit was the garment that you put on when you had disposed of all of your material possessions. It identified you as a poor man or a poor woman.

Clare took it further than Francis. She ammended the rule as he wrote it to add that in choosing the form of dress for the community, the abbess had to factor in the the individual likes and dislikes of the sisters. That’s why we have 20,000 Poor Clares in I don’t know how many houses and each house has a different habit. The sisters in the house decide what they like or don’t like. They present these ideas to the abbess. The abbess must consider them in making her decision as to what they will wear. In some Poor Clare houses you see the Benedictine habit in brown and with a cord instead of a belt, such as the Poor Clares on EWTN. You see others in short skirts, calf-length, showing hair, hiding hair, blues, greys and white. You also find some in no habit or in some kind of uniform that they wear when they’re not doing dirty work.

I’ve always found this very interesting, because Clare lived in the 1200s, long before women’s lib movements and long before Vatican II. Yet, there are two things in her rule that sound as if they were taken out of the 20th century. The one is the point about factoring in the sister’s thinking on the habit rather than imposing it. The other is the separation between men and women. The Poor Clares were the first religious community of women to be governed by women. St. Clare spelled out the duties of the friars to the nuns. These duties did not include governance, as did the Benedictines, Dominicans, Augustinians and Carmelites. The friars were to serve them, but not to govern them. They answered only to the pope and the local bishop.

She was a remarkable lady.
I wonder why they wear grey outside. The rose colour is so pretty!

Pity they don’t have any communities in the UK or I’d totally consider joining them. Less for the pink habits and more for the Adoration. Their website says each sister gets to spend time before the Blessed Sacrament every day, how awesome would that be?
Pink, to go with the pink slippers of a previous post.
That answer is easy. When they were founded, women religious were to be as anonymous as possible. The pink called too much attention to itself. Most women religious wore clothing very much like that of the period when they were founded. It was just very simple. They designed it this way very deliberately, so that it would reflect the clothing of the day, while at the same time, it has special meaning to the sisters.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF :christmastree1:
 
She was a remarkable lady.
Yes she was. I think she understood that in Francis’ mind, a human soul was a human soul with the same intrinsic worth, no more and no less–rich or poor, male or female, old or young, sick or well, etc etc. And she knew Francis was correct, and so she acted on it.
 
The pink habits are very pretty, but those are contemplative sisters, I think. Those habits would get far too much attention on the street, I think. And there might be a risk of people trying to get into the order just for the habit (strange but true), although they would probably be weeded out fairly quickly. But at a cost because all these things do have a cost.
 
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