Interracial dating

[Samkal]

Hi everyone, I’m new to this forum, even though I may be Catholic I would like to point out that I have an open mind when it comes to religion, and would like to learn from other cultures, and customs.

I would like to ask everyone here, if interracial dating was allowed between a westerner and someone from say oh i dont know iran? Reason I point out Iran, well I admit they have many georgous women over there, im sure many would like to have a meaningful relationsip, but I would like to hear what people would have to say in regards to my question.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

I’m not sure what you’re really asking, with all due respect? Are you asking if the Church permits interractial dating or if you should do it or if Muslims, etc. permit it?

 

[Samkal]

good point, let me re-phrase my question

My question shall be broken up in parts

1)does the catholic church allow interracial dating?
2)does " " " " " marriage? if not why not?
3)how would a muslim faith feel about interracial dating/marriage?

i would also like to hear from the muslim faith followers

 

[Hesychios]

There are no ethnic/racial barriers to marriage in Christianity. The only place I know that barriers are tacitly tolerated is in the Knanaya community, which is endogamic. Still, even people in that situation people do marry across ethnic and religious lines and priests will be found to perform the marriage rites. No one can be excommunicated for inter-ethnic or interracial marriage.

BTW, there are Christians in Iran, most of them in churches with deeply Apostolic roots. Marrying a Muslim, Zoroastrian, Jew or Buddhist is a completely different issue and is handled according to the canons (which I cannot help you with).

 

[Hesychios]

There are no ethnic/racial barriers to marriage in Christianity. The only place I know that barriers are tacitly tolerated is in the Knanaya community, which is endogamic. Still, even people in that situation people do marry across ethnic and religious lines and priests will be found to perform the marriage rites. No one can be excommunicated for inter-ethnic or interracial marriage.

BTW, there are Christians in Iran, most of them in churches with deeply Apostolic roots. Marrying a Muslim, Zoroastrian, Jew or Buddhist is a completely different issue and is handled according to the canons (which I cannot help you with).

 

[dzheremi]

Um…you are aware that Muslims are not a race, right? There are Muslims of every race, just like there are Christians of every race. There are Christian Persians, by the way, as well as large numbers of native Iranians who are members of ethnic groups that are traditionally/majority Christian, such as the Assyrians and the Armenians.

I’ve never wondered this, so I don’t know if there is official teaching anywhere on it, but I cannot see any reason why the Catholic Church would have any problem with interracial dating (which is something very different than interfaith dating or interfaith marriage), especially given the fact that it prides itself on being a universal church, and what’s more the vast majority of its worldwide membership is non-white/non-European. I know, for instance, that there were apparently not prohibitions against interracial marriage when my Irish Catholic grandfather married my Mexican Catholic grandmother back in the 1940s. I can’t imagine the Catholic Church’s social politics having regressed since then!

 

[Libertarian_FL]

Well you do know there are Christians in Iran they had a Christian and Jewish presence for a over a thousand years. The Chaldean Catholic Church if I recall is part of the Roman Catholic Church proper so you could marry a nice Iranian Catholic woman I suspect.

 

[Sam_777]

3)how would a muslim faith feel about interracial dating/marriage?

Firstly, dating is not allowed in Islam for Muslims and non Muslims.

Secondly, Islam allows only Muslim men to marry women from the people of the book and does not allow non Muslims to marry Muslim women.

 

[bpbasilphx]

Neither Iranian nor Muslim is a race.

 

[Jerusha]

There is no prohibition against interracial marriage. However, the stresses of interreligious marriage, compounded with racial issues, make interreligious interethnic marriage very difficult. it is not recommended, although it happens.

 

[rick43235]

There is no prohibition against interracial marriage. However, the stresses of interreligious marriage, compounded with racial issues, make interreligious interethnic marriage very difficult. it is not recommended, although it happens.

I’m a Caucasian non-Catholic married to an Asian Catholic. Our marriage is quite happy and harmonious, thank you very much.

 

[4Squarebaby]

I’m a Caucasian non-Catholic married to an Asian Catholic. Our marriage is quite happy and harmonious, thank you very much.

Consider, most Catholics in ths subforum do not post from the let us learn perspective but from the defender of the faith perspective. With anywhere from 20 to 60 percent, depending on the source of the study, of Catholics entering interfaith relationships, well they can warn against all they want to.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

To the OP, I assume you’re saying interracial and not interfaith right? You mean dating not only a person of another race, but someone of a completely different religion, correct? For example, I’m caucasian/Anglo but my wife is filipina. My wife was actually born and raised in the Philippines. But we are both Catholics. You are referring, I take it, to dating a Middle-Easterner of an Islamic religion.

I would first advise against dating someone of another faith than yours. I considered it once, long ago, and I really cared about someone but she was of another religion COMPLETELY. I had to put my Church first. I ended up meeting my wife and Thanks Be To God for my not taking the first opportunity! My wife is THE best thing ever to happen to me! We have three kids and they’re all Catholics aged 4, 3 and almost 2.

Trust in Christ Jesus and put him first. You don’t need to struggle with religion in your home. If you’re scoping out the dating scene there are tons of Catholic girls from which to choose and there is someone great for you out there. Just be patient and put your trust in the Lord. There are also many Catholic women in other countries from the Philippines to Mexico to South American countries to parts of Africa and even the Middle East. Stick with your faith, that’s my advice. May God bless you!

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Consider, most Catholics in ths subforum do not post from the let us learn perspective but from the defender of the faith perspective. With anywhere from 20 to 60 percent, depending on the source of the study, of Catholics entering interfaith relationships, well they can warn against all they want to.

I would disagree. There are both types. I can walk and chew gum. I’m ready to defend my Catholic faith just as you are ready to defend your Pentecostal beliefs. And yet I would hope both you and I are wanting to learn at the same time. I don’t have to toss my catechism, heritage, faith, and beliefs out the window to learn from anyone here. And Catholics entering interfaith relationships is an individual thing that does not reflect on Church teaching (which allows interfaith marriage)…

You have painted our (Catholic) motivations for coming into CAF now with a broad brush, so what is your motivation? Are you hear to learn from us and be open to conversion to the Catholic Church or to convert Catholics and/or preach your beliefs to motivate us away from our faith or just to learn? Since I don’t know you, I won’t presume anything…

 

[jpk1313]

good point, let me re-phrase my question

My question shall be broken up in parts

1)does the catholic church allow interracial dating?
2)does " " " " " marriage? if not why not?
3)how would a muslim faith feel about interracial dating/marriage?

i would also like to hear from the muslim faith followers

there is no such thing as interracial dating. there is only one race the human race.
The church discoureges interfaith marriage ie. christian and voodoo adherents should not marry each other. if they are set on marriage the non catholic has to promise they will not object or try to stop any children from being raised in the church.

 

[NoWings]

Hi everyone, I’m new to this forum, even though I may be Catholic I would like to point out that I have an open mind when it comes to religion, and would like to learn from other cultures, and customs.

I would like to ask everyone here, if interracial dating was allowed between a westerner and someone from say oh i dont know iran? Reason I point out Iran, well I admit they have many georgous women over there, im sure many would like to have a meaningful relationsip, but I would like to hear what people would have to say in regards to my question.

Middle Eastern, especially Persian women are indeed quite beautiful, but there are no restrictions on race when it comes to marriage and stuff. There are limitations on a persons faith, however.

Then again, it doesn’t really matter who you end up with. Women are fairly uniform the world over, in that they’ll worry you bald and turn you into a village idiot when they strut through a room and look into your eyes.

 

[rick43235]

there is no such thing as interracial dating. there is only one race the human race.

WOW! I think you have taken political correctness into uncharted territory.

The church discoureges interfaith marriage ie. christian and voodoo adherents should not marry each other. if they are set on marriage the non catholic has to promise they will not object or try to stop any children from being raised in the church.

I’m certainly glad I didn’t marry that voodoo priestess I was dating a few years ago. I’m sure she would have insisted on raising our children according to voodoo beliefs.

 

[NoWings]

I’m certainly glad I didn’t marry that voodoo priestess I was dating a few years ago. I’m sure she would have insisted on raising our children according to voodoo beliefs.

Voodoo is actually more compatible to Catholicism than, say, Islam.

 

[Yerusalyim]

good point, let me re-phrase my question

My question shall be broken up in parts

1)does the catholic church allow interracial dating?
2)does " " " " " marriage? if not why not?
3)how would a muslim faith feel about interracial dating/marriage?

i would also like to hear from the muslim faith followers

There are no canonical restrictions to dating or marrying someone of another race or ethinic background in the Catholic Church…so that’s question 1 and 2 answered.

Islam allows interracial marriage…many Muslims, however, frown on dating. In the strictest sense interfaith marriages are not allowed in Islam.

Having lived in an interfaith marriage there are definite challenges…especially if both are devout. However, I’ve also seen some very successful mixed marriages. One of my favorite Army Chaplains is a Presbyterian and his wife is Catholic. They go to mass together, and then go to the Presbyterian worship together. They’ve been married 30 years and are quite happy.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Voodoo is actually more compatible to Catholicism than, say, Islam.

I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t go the voodoo route! LOL…Marrying a woman who can summon a zombie on demand is a pretty bad talent to have around in case of a verbal blowout or disagreement. If she were to ask, “do I look fat in these jeans?” I wouldn’t want the zombie factor! Shrunken heads and chicken carcasses are never asthetically pleasing in the refuse either! Plus I wouldn’t want to have to constantly watch “The Serpent and the Rainbow.” I’d pass on the voodoo thing. Even Islam would start to look good! lol