Interview with Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Chief Exorcist of Rome

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I doubt that’s the Chief Exorcist of Rome. He dosen’t even know what heresy is.
 
Eucharisted said:
I doubt that’s the Chief Exorcist of Rome. He dosen’t even know what heresy is.
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I don’t know if that is an “offical” title, but he certainly has extolled the necessity of Exorcism for years, and has led conferences for those priests who specialize in this area.
 
Eucharisted said:
I doubt that’s the Chief Exorcist of Rome. He dosen’t even know what heresy is.
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You should be buying his books, from what you’ve related of your experiences, you need them and he is a good authority.
 
I scanned his article. Since neither the old nor new rites of exorcism are before me, I can’t comment on them.

However, the Church by her nature can NOT promulgate invalid or inefficacious rites.
 
Cluny said:
I scanned his article. Since neither the old nor new rites of exorcism are before me, I can’t comment on them.

However, the Church by her nature can NOT promulgate invalid or inefficacious rites.
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Proof, please.
THe Old Ritual for Exorcism can and is authorized for usage, so that the Exorcists have an efficacious Exorcism ritual. So what’s stopping us from having an invalid/or ineffectual or/non-effective modern “Exorcism” ritual?!

And I’m not trying to be a jerk: I genuinely want to know. and thus I’m asking.
 
How can one be a priest or a bishop and not believe in the devil? thats is extremly disturbing when he says most of them don’t . Like the Pope says if you dont believe in the devil you don’t believe in the Gospel.
 
TruthisBeauty7 said:
How can one be a priest or a bishop and not believe in the devil? thats is extremly disturbing when he says most of them don’t . Like the Pope says if you dont believe in the devil you don’t believe in the Gospel.
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I have found that since Vatican II there has been quite a change in the attitude and beliefs of many priests and bishops. Before Vatican II when I went to mass the sermon was almost always a “fire and brimstone” sermon regarding sin, the salvation of your soul, prayer, etc. Today sermons are more on the order of a social gathering, or a coffee clatch. Many of the homilies are political in nature. Our bishop is concerned more about finances than pastoral care. I believe Father Amorth is correct in stating that Satan has too much influence in the hierarchy in today’s church.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichem
 
“30 Days: Don’t you ever feel afraid of the demon?”

“Fr. Amorth: Me, for that animal? It is he who should be afraid of me; I act in the name of the Lord of the world. But as for him, he is nothing but God’s monkey.”

I love that last line.
 
A quote from that interview:

*Vatican Council II had asked for certain texts to be revised. But this order was disobeyed, as there was a desire to rewrite them all from scratch. No thought was given to the possibility of making things worse rather than better. And many rites were spoiled by this mania for jettisoning everything from the past and of rebuilding everything from top to bottom, as though the Church had, until today, hoodwinked and misled us, and as though there had now finally arrived a time of great geniuses, of super-theologians, of super-biblicists, of super-liturgists, who knew how to give the Church what was sound. It is all a lie: the last Council simply asked for these texts to be revised, not to be destroyed. The Exorcism Ritual, for example, was to be revised, not rewritten. There were prayers in it which had been in use for twelve centuries. Before suppressing these ancient prayers which had proved so efficacious, one should have thought long and hard. But no! We exorcists have all tried out the new prayers in the New Ritual ad interim and we have come to realize that they are absolutely ineffectual. But the rite of baptism for children has also been spoiled. It has been so drastically overhauled that the exorcism against Satan has virtually been eliminated. This had always held a very great importance for the Church, so much so that it is called the minor exorcism. Paul VI himself publicly protested against this new rite.

We find the same degeneration of the rite in the new benedictionary. I have read its 1200 pages minutely. Well! any reference to the fact the Lord must protect us against Satan, that the angels protect us from the attacks of the demon, has been systematically suppressed. All the prayers for the blessing of homes and schools have been suppressed. Everything should be blessed and protected, but today there is no longer any protection against the demon. There no longer exists any defense or any prayers against him. This same Jesus had taught us a prayer for liberation in the Our Father: “Deliver us from the Evil One. Deliver us from the Person of Satan.” This prayer has been mistranslated and today people pray saying, “Deliver us from evil.” One speaks of a general evil whose origin is essentially unknown. But the evil against which Our Lord Jesus taught us to fight is, on the contrary, a concrete person: it is Satan. *
 
DonLeon said:
I have found that since Vatican II there has been quite a change in the attitude and beliefs of many priests and bishops. Before Vatican II when I went to mass the sermon was almost always a “fire and brimstone” sermon regarding sin, the salvation of your soul, prayer, etc. Today sermons are more on the order of a social gathering, or a coffee clatch. Many of the homilies are political in nature. Our bishop is concerned more about finances than pastoral care. I believe Father Amorth is correct in stating that Satan has too much influence in the hierarchy in today’s church.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichem
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I heard a sermon several decades ago by one of those “fire & brimstone” ministers who said that one doesn’t find the devil in the crack houses or the strip clubs and brothels, but rather in church every Sunday, 3rd row center. Sometimes when I go to church and see the way some people are dressed and try and figure out what the point trying to be made in the homily, I think maybe he was right.
 
Yes, these last two posts, are very on target.

It is the fruit of secular wisdom, and those with the belief that they can throw away tradition and replace it with their human reason, and not escape error.

It’s the particular spirit and error of these times, throughout.
 
I think that is a bit of a misinterpretation. The devil is not as concerned with those in the crack houses and brothels for he already has them ensnared in his trap. Rather he is working his hardest to earn those souls who are in the good graces of God.
 
Shin said:
Yes, these last two posts, are very on target.

It is the fruit of secular wisdom, and those with the belief that they can throw away tradition and replace it with their human reason, and not escape error.

It’s the particular spirit and error of these times, throughout.
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:yup: I have a term for that…I call it secular intellectualism. The work of Satan, I do believe.
 
**“The Pope, whoever he is, will never come to the secret societies; it is up to the secret societies to take the first step toward the Church, with the aim of conquering both of them.
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“The task that we are going to undertake is not the work of a day, or of a month, or of a year; it may last several years, perhaps a century; but in our ranks the soldier dies and the struggle goes on.
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“We do not intend to win the Popes to our cause, to make them neophytes of our principles, propagators of our ideas. That would be a ridiculous dream; and if events turn out in some way, if Cardinals or prelates, for example, of their own free will or by surprise, should enter into a part of our secrets, this is not at all an incentive for desiring their elevation to the See of Peter. That elevation would ruin us. Ambition alone would have led them to apostasy, the requirements of power would force them to sacrifice us. What we must ask for, what we should look for and wait for, as the Jews wait for the Messiah, is a Pope according to our needs …
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“With that we shall march more securely towards the assault on the Church than with the pamphlets of our brethren in France and even the gold of England. Do you want to know the reason for this? It is that with this, in order to shatter the high rock on which God has built His Church, we no longer need Hannibalian vinegar, or need gunpowder, or even need our arms. We have the little finger of the successor of Peter engaged in the ploy, and this little finger is as good, for this crusade, as all the Urban II’s and all the Saint Bernards in Christendom.
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“We have no doubt that we will arrive at this supreme end of our efforts. But when? But how? The unknown is not yet revealed. Nevertheless, as nothing should turn us aside from the plan drawn up, and on the contrary everything should tend to this, as if as early as tomorrow success were going to crown the work that is barely sketched, we wish, in this instruction, which will remain secret for the mere initiates, to give the officials in the charge of the supreme Vente some advice that they should instill in all the brethren, in the form of instruction or of a memorandum …
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“Now then, to assure ourselves a Pope of the required dimensions, it is a question first of shaping him … for this Pope, a generation worthy of the reign we are dreaming of. Leave old people and those of a mature age aside; go to the youth, and if it is possible, even to the children … You will contrive for yourselves, at little cost, a reputation as good Catholics and pure patriots.
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“This reputation will put access to our doctrines into the midst of the young clergy, as well as deeply into the monasteries. In a few years, by the force of things, this young clergy will have overrun all the functions; they will form the sovereign’s council, they will be called to choose a Pontiff who should reign. And this Pontiff, like most of his contemporaries, will be necessarily more or less imbued with the Italian and humanitarian principles that we are going to begin to put into circulation. It is a small grain of black mustard that we are entrusting to the ground; but the sunshine of justice will develop it up to the highest power, and you will see one day what a rich harvest this small seed will produce.
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“In the path that we are laying out for our brethren, there are found great obstacles to conquer, difficulties of more than one kind to master. They will triumph over them by experience and by clearsightedness; but the goal is so splendid that it is important to put all the sails to the wind in order to reach it. You want to revolutionize Italy, look for the Pope whose portrait we have just drawn. You wish to establish the reign of the chosen ones on the throne of the prostitute of Babylon, let the Clergy march under your standard, always believing that they are marching under the banner of the apostolic keys. You intend to make the last vestige of tyrants and the oppressors disappear; lay your snares like Simon Bar-Jona; lay them in the sacristies, the seminaries, and the monasteries rather than at the bottom of the sea: and if you do not hurry, we promise you a catch more miraculous than his. The fisher of fish became the fisher of men; you will bring friends around the apostolic Chair. You will have preached a revolution in tiara and in cope, marching with the cross and the banner, a revolution that will need to be only a little bit urged on to set fire to the four corners of the world.”7**
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