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ChibiViolet
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What do you think of the movie and or book “Interview with the Vampire?”
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minion
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Z_Ninja
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I enjoyed both, though I saw the movie before reading the book. The books are always way better. The problem I had also, was after reading “the Vampire Armand” it turns out Antonio Banderas was bad casting given the description of Armand in the books.
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ProdglArchitect
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Despite the homosexual / pedophilic overtones, I enjoyed both the book and the movie. My favorite of the series that I’ve read is actually the second one, The Vampire Lestat. Queen of the Damned was also an interesting book, with an interesting take on the vampire mythos. The Queen of the Damned movie was pretty bad and didn’t stick to the book, mainly due to the death of the actress playing Akasha.
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Garyjohn2
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The movie was awesome! Star-studded. Great acting, great characters, and great writing.
I’m sorry, I haven’t read the book.
I’m sorry, I haven’t read the book.
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Mystrx
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I’ve read better. I’ve seen worse.
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Kithrus
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minion
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You’re baiting me aren’t you?
Let’s examine the premise:
Let’s examine the premise:
Eh… yah, that’s enough.
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Oren
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It was my favorite movie was a teenager. I read all the books. The Vampire Lestat was my favorite out of all of them. Reading Anne Rice played a small role in my conversion to Catholicism. She was an atheist when she was writing the books but she described Catholicism so beautifully in a lot of instances. It helped open me up to Catholicism a bit and made me realize it was different than protestantism (which I hated and still do).
Saying all that though, I would say that ultimately in a lot of the books there are a lot of unacceptable things like pedophilia and homosexual acts and incestuous acts etc. I don’t really read them anymore because of that, but they do have a lot of beauty in them other than those things and a lot of positive imagery of Catholicism.
Saying all that though, I would say that ultimately in a lot of the books there are a lot of unacceptable things like pedophilia and homosexual acts and incestuous acts etc. I don’t really read them anymore because of that, but they do have a lot of beauty in them other than those things and a lot of positive imagery of Catholicism.
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Lost_Wanderer
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Never read the book but I saw a bit of the movie. My favorite part is when Louis takes his revenge. Now I know the best way to kill an ENTIRE vampire coven without resort to holy water or sacramentals!
GYAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Fire! Fire! FIRE!!! :whacky:
GYAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Fire! Fire! FIRE!!! :whacky:
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Kithrus
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In media the common device to give perspective when trying to plum the depths of humanity is to take it from a observers point of view.
In this case we have someone who was human is trying to hang on to his humanity by fighting the beast within. This internal struggle gives the writer lots of opportunities to examine on a case by case the reactions us mere mortals have. How were are so scared of the dark we refuse to believe in monsters till we are cornered by one and even then we can be lulled into thinking it was just a mugging gone bad.
This kinda of writing I find is both very healthy and objective and it peels back the layers of our minds and makes us turn inward to examine how we think. Why we accept things the way we do. How even though vampires are not real how it feels to have desires and fight them and ultimately its not fairytale monsters that are what we want to be but human.
Every half decent Vampire in that story will flat out tell you humans are good and if you could plop a cure in a bottle for them they would take it. Which is why so many of them including the main character and his sire want to kill themselves because they know they are evil and they are going to kill again which is never a good thing even if they try to limit such killings to those who probably deserve it.
But hey judging a book by its cover works too right Minion?
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minion
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I’m merely judging an angsty fictional character from a fictional story. I simply look at things like this from a more “pragmatic” point of view.
-Rich guy is dissatisfied with his life and wants to die
-Changes his mind, and gets turned into a vampire
-He doesn’t want to eat people (suck blood), but hates eating rats
-All rich guy has to do is step outside into the sunlight to die, easiest out ever, and save other people in the process from being eaten by him
-eats people-wants to die-eats people-wants to die, ad nauseam
-Complains to a reporter about his “woe is me” life
I love explorations of humanity in fiction, but not when the premises are so absurd, especially when there’s such an easy out available too (death by sunlight). It works for beings like Dracula, because they’re emphatically evil. Emo generation vampires are simply sissies and cowards. In a way, the Twilight vampires are actually better, because at least it’s hard for them to kill themselves.
…then again, you have supposedly “good” super-human vampires with mutant powers a step above other vampires, not lifting one finger to kill other vampires to protect the human race from being gobbled up. They’re all about self-preservation.
Vampires, aswang that eat babies, whatever. They’re glorified cannibals, nothing more.
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andrewstx
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I am not so sure about the homosexual/pedophilia aspects of vampire lore/novels. AFIK the closest thing thing that vampires have to sex in the lore is “feeding” so the gender of the victim should make no difference theoretically.
That was until the True Blood series and novels came out and all of a sudden vampires have intercourse.
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Lost_Wanderer
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Meh, not all vampires are brooding emos (though I do think there’s room for the archetype). Besides, the question of how to psychologically handle one’s earthly immortality has always been a legitimate one. Having to drink blood as a requirement can be reduced to a trifle if an author is creative enough to play around.
Heck I know at least one vampire who drinks more tea than she does blood.
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Crescentinus
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I blame the Twilight series for making vampires as sparkling emos. :bigyikes:Meh, not all vampires are brooding emos (though I do think there’s room for the archetype). Besides, the question of how to psychologically handle one’s earthly immortality has always been a legitimate one. Having to drink blood as a requirement can be reduced to a trifle if an author is creative enough to play around.
Heck I know at least one vampire who drinks more tea than she does blood.
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MyaKey
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As do I; i WILL blame Anne Rice and Dark Shadows for making it easy for Meyers to do so though! XD
Have not read the books, but enjoyed the movie. I like a good Vampire mythology!
Mary_Gail_36
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No. Not the easiest out. Louis gave up his mortal soul to be immortal on Earth, being a vampire. So Louis was damned, but “alive”.
I think it’s implied that by going into the light and dying, the body died. The soul was still damned so they would go to hell (he gave up salvation to be alive as a vampire).
Ann Rice was raised Catholic. She had lost faith. Her inspiration for writing vampire novels was losing a child to leukemia, a blood disease.
In her later vampire books, I understand she strongly correlates the vampires with demons.
In “Dracula” by Bram Stoker, the vampire was “evil” not sympathetic, it was a book where the evil was known and the good was known.
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minion
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Not attacking Anne Rice, only criticizing her fictional story. Some people really freak out over the slightest criticism of their favorite story. (I’m not an exception admittedly)
If you possess the faculties of free will, you can always repent while you exist within time. I don’t see how the “soul” can be separate from your perceptive “being.” I realize fruity stuff like Buffy & Angel merely equalize “soul” with “conscience” but I do not (and I don’t think it’s a Catholic doctrine either).
Lost Wanderer:
Anyway, I don’t have a problem with all vampires…just dumb emo ones. I respect the Vampire Hunter D’s, the Blade’s, the Alucard’s, etc.
Maybe I’ve been hanging around CAF too long, but it sounds like a false dilemma to me.
If you possess the faculties of free will, you can always repent while you exist within time. I don’t see how the “soul” can be separate from your perceptive “being.” I realize fruity stuff like Buffy & Angel merely equalize “soul” with “conscience” but I do not (and I don’t think it’s a Catholic doctrine either).
Lost Wanderer:
It has?
Anyway, I don’t have a problem with all vampires…just dumb emo ones. I respect the Vampire Hunter D’s, the Blade’s, the Alucard’s, etc.
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Lost_Wanderer
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Ever wondered what it’d be like to live through centuries upon centuries? I know I do on a regular basis and even wish it for myself because of I can barely imagine the first-hand knowledge that could be had from seeing a greater slice of history presented to you live and in person.
It helps when you know that earthly immortality is merely earthly life with infinite points and is still not comparable to the purely spiritual (not to mention final) eternity in heaven.
Color me theologically crazy but I’m more curious about living long (and young
) enough to see what’s in store five hundred years from now (minus the need to drink blood). Downplaying such things with the glory of heaven doesn’t actually make the latter very appealing (the requirement of physical death and freeing oneself of sin is costly enough).
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minion
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I suppose it’s the nature of the immortality I care about. At what cost? What exactly is it one plans to do with immortality? Just live a relatively comfortable lifestyle like the vampires in Twilight? Or just use the time to run away from the unknown, while pursuing a hedonistic lifestyle?
Jehnna: I suppose nothing hurts you.Color me theologically crazy but I’m more curious about living long (and young
Conan: Only pain.
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