Intinction in Canada

[AlbertaRose]

I have looked up Intinction & apparently it is permitted in the United States.

"The following is from the document “Norms for the distribution and reception of holy communion under both kinds in the dioceses of the United States of America” -

1. Holy Communion may be distributed by intinction in the following manner: “the communicant, while holding the paten under the chin, approaches the priest who holds the vessel with the hosts and at whose side stands the minister holding the chalice. The priest takes the host, intincts the particle into the chalice and, showing it, says: ‘The Body and Blood of Christ.’ The communicant responds, ‘Amen,’ and receives the Sacrament on the tongue from the priest. Afterwards, the communicant returns to his or her place.” (53)
2. The communicant, including the extraordinary minister, is never allowed to self-communicate, even by means of intinction. Communion under either form, bread or wine, must always be given by an ordinary or extraordinary minister of Holy Communion.
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I have had several of my priests here in Canada tell me that intinction is not permitted.

Is intinction (dipping the Host into the Precious Blood) allowed in Canada?

Thank you
AlbertaRose

 

[Walking_Home]

I have looked up Intinction & apparently it is permitted in the United States.

"The following is from the document “Norms for the distribution and reception of holy communion under both kinds in the dioceses of the United States of America” -

1. Holy Communion may be distributed by intinction in the following manner: “the communicant, while holding the paten under the chin, approaches the priest who holds the vessel with the hosts and at whose side stands the minister holding the chalice. The priest takes the host, intincts the particle into the chalice and, showing it, says: ‘The Body and Blood of Christ.’ The communicant responds, ‘Amen,’ and receives the Sacrament on the tongue from the priest. Afterwards, the communicant returns to his or her place.” (53)
2. The communicant, including the extraordinary minister, is never allowed to self-communicate, even by means of intinction. Communion under either form, bread or wine, must always be given by an ordinary or extraordinary minister of Holy Communion.
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I have had several of my priests here in Canada tell me that intinction is not permitted.

Is intinction (dipping the Host into the Precious Blood) allowed in Canada?

Thank you
AlbertaRose

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From reading the following in RS 2004 which pertains to the Latin rite—the bishops conference can issue norms as to how to co-ordinate receiving Holy Communion under both kinds across their territory. Yet in RS [103] it states that the option of Holy Communion by intinction always remains.

Maybe that is why here in the US —intinction is also used.

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html#Chapter%20III

[101.] In order for Holy Communion under both kinds to be administered to the lay members of Christ’s faithful, due consideration should be given to the circumstances, as judged first of all by the diocesan Bishop. It is to be completely excluded where even a small danger exists of the sacred species being profaned.[187] With a view to wider co-ordination, the Bishops’ Conferences should issue norms, once their decisions have received the recognitio of the Apostolic See through the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, especially as regards “the manner of distributing Holy Communion to the faithful under both kinds, and the faculty for its extension”.[188]

[103.] The norms of the Roman Missal admit the principle that in cases where Communion is administered under both kinds, “the Blood of the Lord may be received either by drinking from the chalice directly, or by intinction, or by means of a tube or a spoon”.[191] As regards the administering of Communion to lay members of Christ’s faithful, the Bishops may exclude Communion with the tube or the spoon where this is not the local custom, though the option of administering Communion by intinction always remains. If this modality is employed, however, hosts should be used which are neither too thin nor too small, and the communicant should receive the Sacrament from the Priest only on the tongue.[192]

 

[gavri]

I have looked up Intinction & apparently it is permitted in the United States.

"The following is from the document “Norms for the distribution and reception of holy communion under both kinds in the dioceses of the United States of America” -

1. Holy Communion may be distributed by intinction in the following manner: “the communicant, while holding the paten under the chin, approaches the priest who holds the vessel with the hosts and at whose side stands the minister holding the chalice. The priest takes the host, intincts the particle into the chalice and, showing it, says: ‘The Body and Blood of Christ.’ The communicant responds, ‘Amen,’ and receives the Sacrament on the tongue from the priest. Afterwards, the communicant returns to his or her place.” (53)
2. The communicant, including the extraordinary minister, is never allowed to self-communicate, even by means of intinction. Communion under either form, bread or wine, must always be given by an ordinary or extraordinary minister of Holy Communion.
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I have had several of my priests here in Canada tell me that intinction is not permitted.

Is intinction (dipping the Host into the Precious Blood) allowed in Canada?

Thank you
AlbertaRose

Mayby your priest is confused with Intiction by the faithfull and with Intiction by the priest?

I only take communion by Intiction when the Intiction is done by the priest. I don’t intict myself, when it’s offered I don’t, and I bow toward the cup with the Body of Christ and do the sign of the Cross.

And I live in the Netherlands. I follow the norms that are laid out by the Vatican.

Gavri

 

[phil8888]

that’s really interesting because I received Eucharist by intinction in the Netherlands while I was there.

 

[Phemie]

I have had several of my priests here in Canada tell me that intinction is not permitted.

Is intinction (dipping the Host into the Precious Blood) allowed in Canada?

Thank you
AlbertaRose

In a course on Liturgy I was also taught that intinction wasn’t an option in Canada because receiving on the tongue or in the hand is the communicant’s choice and offering only intinction removes that choice.

I did not question the priest who was giving the course as to whether this is an official decree from the CCCB (doubtful, since that would likely fall under “Complementary Norms to the 1983 Code of Canon Law”, and I have all those published up to 1996) or rather it’s something that they’ve just agreed not to do.

We know the CCCB sometimes makes decisions that they don’t explain, i.e. their reason for not implementing the “new” GIRM. The reasons behind that decision have ranged from ‘needing to implement the French & English versions at the same time’ to ‘don’t have to do anything about it until the new Roman Missal is published in English’.

 

[Brendan]

In a course on Liturgy I was also taught that intinction wasn’t an option in Canada because receiving on the tongue or in the hand is the communicant’s choice and offering only intinction removes that choice. .

Cardinal Arinze, in a letter to the US Bishops, declared Intinction to be an option “always and everywhere” by virtue of the general liturgical law of the Roman Rite. This is especially true since the Congregation decided to promulgate it globally in Notatie.

Sometimes, however, the high number of communicants may render it inadvisable for everyone to drink from the chalice (cf. Redemptionis Sacramentum, no. 102). intinction with reception on the tongue always and everywhere remains a legitimate option, by virtue of the general liturgical law of the Roman Rite.

usccb.org/liturgy/cleansingofvessels.pdf

Since the general law applies equally in Canada as it does anywhere else in the world, intinction (not self intinction) is permitted.

 

[Phemie]

Cardinal Arinze, in a letter to the US Bishops, declared Intinction to be an option “always and everywhere” by virtue of the general liturgical law of the Roman Rite. This is especially true since the Congregation decided to promulgate it globally in Notatie.

usccb.org/liturgy/cleansingofvessels.pdf

Since the general law applies equally in Canada as it does anywhere else in the world, intinction (not self intinction) is permitted.

You have to find a priest willing to do that.

My impression is that they really want to promote drinking from the Chalice so the majority have simply decided never to offer the Precious Blood by intinction. They justify their decision by appealing to the lack of choice if they use intinction.

 

[Brendan]

. They justify their decision by appealing to the lack of choice if they use intinction.

I’m surprized that a someone as supposedly well educated as a priest would not know the distiction between a right ( reception on the tounge) and permission ( reception in the hand)

One is done by right, the other is an indult that only happends because of the request of the local synod and the approval by Rome.

 

[japhy]

SELF-intinction is never allowed.

 

[Phemie]

SELF-intinction is never allowed.

But that’s not what we’re discussing here.

The OP and I have both been told that ‘we don’t do intinction in Canada’. She was told it’s not allowed, I was simply told that it wasn’t done because it took away the communicant’s choice to receive in the hand.

Yes, Brendan, I know that Communion in the hand is by indult. Since the indult was requested and granted here, the priests opt not to do anything that would remove the communicant’s choice to make use of said indult.