Introversion and vocation

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Just try it, it doesn’t hurt to try. I am also an introvert and am looking into a religious life, but have no idea as to which order yet. One thing I know for sure is that, I don’t want to be marry. Pray and ask God to lead you to the path that will bring you closer to him. That is what I am doing.
 
Just try it, it doesn’t hurt to try. I am also an introvert and am looking into a religious life, but have no idea as to which order yet. One thing I know for sure is that, I don’t want to be marry. Pray and ask God to lead you to the path that will bring you closer to him. That is what I am doing.
Yes exactly, “the path that will bring you closer to Him.” That’s all I want, wherever I can love Him more and better.

Pax Christi tecum.
 
I’m going to get St. John Vianney’s biography. Is this sort of stuff in there?

Pax Christi tecum.
Yes, the most authoritative biography of St. John Vianney is by Francis Trochu, which you can purchase through TAN publishing. Everything I have told you, I learned from reading this book. It is considered the most definitive and scholarly biography on this most amazing priest;

tanbooks.com/index.php/page/shop:flypage/product_id/106/keywords/vianney/

Blessings,

-Davide
 
Yes, the most authoritative biography of St. John Vianney is by Francis Trochu, which you can purchase through TAN publishing. Everything I have told you, I learned from reading this book. It is considered the most definitive and scholarly biography on this most amazing priest;

tanbooks.com/index.php/page/shop:flypage/product_id/106/keywords/vianney/

Blessings,

-Davide
Great, I’m going to buy it! Thank you! I already have a book of his sermons that have blessed me very much.

Pax Christi tecum.
 
Great, I’m going to buy it! Thank you! I already have a book of his sermons that have blessed me very much.

Pax Christi tecum.
Great! I love reading his sermons; so much firmness and fatherly discipline behind them, rather than the feel-good sermons we hear today. He certainly was not out to make friends, but to convert souls, and make Saints (and he could do this so effectively, because he was first a Saint himself).
 
Great! I love reading his sermons; so much firmness and fatherly discipline behind them, rather than the feel-good sermons we hear today. He certainly was not out to make friends, but to convert souls, and make Saints.
Yes indeed! If only we had more like him! I wish I could be more like that too just in sharing the Gospel and the truth with people. When I read them they really create in me a desire to please Christ and to turn away from everything that displeases Him. I’ve been blessed ever since I found the book at a local used bookstore! What a steal!

Pax Christi tecum.
 
Yes, the most authoritative biography of St. John Vianney is by Francis Trochu, which you can purchase through TAN publishing. Everything I have told you, I learned from reading this book. It is considered the most definitive and scholarly biography on this most amazing priest;

tanbooks.com/index.php/page/shop:flypage/product_id/106/keywords/vianney/

Blessings,

-Davide
I never read the Trochu biography. I have read Mary Fabyan Windeatt’s and also Fr Bartholomew O’Brien’s biographies and I was deeply inspired by each.
 
i’m going through a rough stage of adolescence at 15(CRAPPIEST part of my life) and i’m EXTREMELY introverted and i think i’'ll never find anyone. i already know i’m a lost cause to get married. theres no way in hell someone will find me attractive, just because i’m not outgoing, so i’m thinking i’ll be a lay person or something, but i want to get a really good, high paying job when i grow up, cuz i’m really gifted and intelligent. but at the same time i’m struggling with my sexuality, cuz i (do it) every day, cuz of what i just said above… that no one will find me and i’ll be single for the rest of my life. but the hardest part is that i REALLY want to get married, cuz i love women and have the qualities(smarts, looks, masculenity, caring) to be good, Cahtolic father. i also have a really deep voice(i mean REALLY deep)

where any of you guys like this during adolescense?
Sort of. Except for the looks. 😊

Never dated in high school. At all. Always got the “You’re a nice guy, but…” line.

Dated a woman in University. Six months, mid 80s. Didn’t work out.

Dated a woman in the Army. Three years, mid 90s. Didn’t work out.

Currently with the same woman long-distance since late 90s, full-time since 2004. Working out. 👍

Aside from these three women, I only ever sporadically dated 3 other women that I can think of.

Six in the course of three decades. And found the right one. 👍

Do not lose hope. You’re only 15 – I don’t even think you’re of legal age in most jurisdictions.

Even if you have to wait – like me – till you’re forty – so what? Would you mind if someone told you, hey, money will be tight for a while, but you’ll be a bazillionaire by forty? When the right woman comes along, you’ll know it.

Introversion is not a bad thing. Not everyone is into small talk. Shy people do get married: I know of many in my family who wouldn’t say boo to a goose but are in fulfilling lifelong relationships. If you can develop your good qualities, people may be less likely to see you as “withdrawn” , instead may see you as the “strong, silent type”; “introspective” rather than “introverted”.

Also, “people skills” are just that. Skills. They can be learned. You may never lose your “stage fright”, but it need not cripple you. A man who overcomes and masters his fear is brave; a man who has no fear is an idiot.

I had no friends in school, did not date in high school, was extremely introverted, shy, lonely. Hated meeting new people, was terrified to be among people I didn’t know.

Eventually, I ended up being a military instructor at the national level, teaching soldiers from across Canada everything from communication systems to how to iron a shirt. Big switch.

I still have vicious stage fright. I just adapt and overcome.

As for what you mentioned above, that you “…(do it)…”, I suggest you do your absolute best to stop.

Don’t stay alone in your room. Go outdoors, to the mall, to the library, wherever. Avoid the occasion of sin – which in your case may mean too much solitude. It’s not just that it is a sin – it is – but it is also habit-forming, and the longer you go on the harder it is to stop. It also colours your attitude towards sex and women: the gratification aspect outweighs any unitive, sacramental, or loving aspect.

Also, see a priest. He won’t be shocked. I imagine he’s heard worse, and besides, dealing with sins and sinful people is his stock in trade.

Pray to God, as well. It’s His stock in trade, too.
 
Strugglingalong,

I’m pretty much an introvert too. I’m terribly shy and have trouble with public speaking, so much that I schedule everything in life away from it. This is what has been keeping me from considering the priesthood for a long time.

Now I’m looking beyond that. God does not give to us what we cannot handle. You have lots of chances to improve yourself, through public speaking classes, clubs such as Toastmasters. In addition to helping you with public speaking, they also help you with leadership skills, something everyone needs.

The call was so strong and I have so much fear 3 years ago that I joined a Toastmasters club to help me with public speaking in front of an audience. My first speech were spoken behind the lecturn. No one see my face, I was speaking through a sock puppet. That’s the only way I can speak. But now I’ve given over 34 different speeches and gave numerous presentations. I’m still shy and still an introvert, but I can control my fears better.

I suggest you do something similar while waiting for your chance to enter a seminary if that is the path you’re going to take.

God bless!
JL
 
That’s something that gets easier with experience. I used to be the same way. I dreaded having to speak in front of people. Even the thought of it made me sick.

Now, I can sit and talk in front of people for hours. Believe me, the people at the seminary will work with you on that.
Doesn’t this thread show how adaptable we introverts are? Sometimes we don’t give ourselves enough credit for achieving what our extravert cousins find easier. (Also sometimes we forget that some of them are quite envious of our introvert qualities - eg ability to listen to others, to concentrate, to be by ourselves.)

Think also we can be quite hard on ourselves when it comes to socialising and speaking in public. We’re often very aware of how diifiult it is for us and how we could be doing better. We think those we are talking to know this and will judge us adversely.

Also, when we are nervous and think those we are talking to know this and will put us down. Sometimes, as a result we can sabotage our communication. It can be like we are giving two talks - one to the audience and one to ourselves. No wonder that we find public speaking difficult!

I find it helpful to think “how would l feel if it was someone else doing this, having these difficulties?” Would I be as critical of them as I am of myself? If my answer is no, I would be compassionate, I would be wanting them to do well, I have to think why am I more critical of myself and be as charitable to me as I am to others.

Also I think often if we introverts feel passionately about something, then we rise above our fears,

Another trap we can fall into is when are beginners in public speaking is to compare ourselves to the experts and the brilliant forgetting they were once as inexperienced as we are now.
 
I wish I could be more like that too just in sharing the Gospel and the truth with people.
Struggling along - I think your starting this thread, but even more so your replies to postings on it clearly show your desire to share the Gospel and the truth with other people and your desire to increase your ability to do so.

Please, don’t underestimate the strength of your “can do” attitude.
 
i’m going through a rough stage of adolescence at 15(CRAPPIEST part of my life) and i’m EXTREMELY introverted and i think i’'ll never find anyone. i already know i’m a lost cause to get married. theres no way in hell someone will find me attractive, just because i’m not outgoing, so i’m thinking i’ll be a lay person or something, but i want to get a really good, high paying job when i grow up, cuz i’m really gifted and intelligent. but at the same time i’m struggling with my sexuality, cuz i (do it) every day, cuz of what i just said above… that no one will find me and i’ll be single for the rest of my life. but the hardest part is that i REALLY want to get married, cuz i love women and have the qualities(smarts, looks, masculenity, caring) to be good, Cahtolic father. i also have a really deep voice(i mean REALLY deep)

where any of you guys like this during adolescense?
Congratulations, you’re a human male, welcome to the club. 👍
 
Wow, excellent comments and thoughts. I think you’re right on.
Doesn’t this thread show how adaptable we introverts are? Sometimes we don’t give ourselves enough credit for achieving what our extravert cousins find easier. (Also sometimes we forget that some of them are quite envious of our introvert qualities - eg ability to listen to others, to concentrate, to be by ourselves.)
Yes, very true. We can be very hard on ourselves and forget the good qualities we have by nature…
Think also we can be quite hard on ourselves when it comes to socialising and speaking in public. We’re often very aware of how diifiult it is for us and how we could be doing better. We think those we are talking to know this and will judge us adversely.

Also, when we are nervous and think those we are talking to know this and will put us down. Sometimes, as a result we can sabotage our communication. It can be like we are giving two talks - one to the audience and one to ourselves. No wonder that we find public speaking difficult!

I find it helpful to think “how would l feel if it was someone else doing this, having these difficulties?” Would I be as critical of them as I am of myself? If my answer is no, I would be compassionate, I would be wanting them to do well, I have to think why am I more critical of myself and be as charitable to me as I am to others.
Right! Yes! I think most people would never be so critical and harsh as we are of ourselves. But I think most of us tend to be perfectionists and idealists too which makes it difficult.

But when we talk often I think we do what you said, we’re trying to communicate to the other person while we critically examine everything we do, say and look like while we do it. That is a lot to handle! Maybe it is growing in humility, to be able to say “oh well if I sound or look dumb in the process that’s okay.”
Also I think often if we introverts feel passionately about something, then we rise above our fears,
Yes I absolutely agree.

Thank you for your thoughts! They were very moving to me and also very encouraging, like taking all the lies out of it and showing the situation for what it really is.

Pax Christi tecum.
 
Struggling along - I think your starting this thread, but even more so your replies to postings on it clearly show your desire to share the Gospel and the truth with other people and your desire to increase your ability to do so.

Please, don’t underestimate the strength of your “can do” attitude.
Thank you. I just know how intimidated I get, how I don’t want to make people upset and don’t want to deal with that, so I often stick to saying things I know are okay. I just hate that. But Our Lord can do all things with us. He chooses the weak and the feeble so His power, not our own, can be made manifest. So often we think it is up to us, it’s all about us and our abilities, when in reality the God of all creation is the One Who calls us and He can do anything with us!

Pax Christi tecum.
 
Count me in for the introverts. I am currently discerning the diocesean priesthood and between several orders, one being the Carmelites.
 
Count me in for the introverts. I am currently discerning the diocesean priesthood and between several orders, one being the Carmelites.
Yes I am also very attracted to the Carmelites. God bless you in your discernment!

Pax Christi tecum.
 
Yes I am also very attracted to the Carmelites. God bless you in your discernment!

Pax Christi tecum.
Blessings to you as well as you discern. Unfortunately I can only visit the forums on Sundays, Mondays and Tuesday mornings because of my job-but I am interested in staying informed about your process in the discernment process.
 
Wow, excellent comments and thoughts. I think you’re right on.

Thank you for your thoughts! They were very moving to me and also very encouraging, like taking all the lies out of it and showing the situation for what it really is. Pax Christi tecum.
Thank you very much for your comments - I’m so glad you found them helpful.

Learning I was an introvert and this was fine was really liberating for me - and I hope the same thing applies to extraverts.

One thing I’ve learnt is to speak in situations where I don’t think it is necessary eg to say I agree with what has been said rather than nod. This helps keep a conversation going, gives the extravert what they need - interaction (extraverts sometimes think that we introverts are hard going conversationally but get us interested and most of us can talk with the best of them).

I hope your discernment goes well - sure it will with your “can do” attitude.
 
I am a pretend-to-be-my-friend-in-order-to-help-me-out-of-my-shell-and-I-will-hand-you-your-head introvert. I do not have a fear of public speaking at all and have in fact won awards for oratory. I find it comes naturally for me.

I am a postulant in a Benedictine monastery in the american southwest. Being introverted does make some aspects of the life easier to bear, such as the isolation and silence. But when you are alone with God you are also alone with yourself, and anyone, introverted or not, who tries this life needs to have the maturity to handle that.

Just thought I would add my two cents
 
Should someone who is introverted and who isn’t very outgoing consider a vocation to the priesthood?

I ask because I am pretty quiet, shy and really introverted. I like people and enjoy talking to them but struggle to be outgoing at the start of getting to know them. What I mean is I don’t go around talking to every person and when I don’t know someone I find it difficult to know what to say to get to know them.

Is that a sign that one should not consider the priesthood? Thoughts?

Thanks so much!

Pax Christi tecum.
I know exactly what you mean. I am very introverted and shy too. I took a Myers-Briggs test that said this, and I’ve always been called shy by my relatives. I don’t talk very much and I’m sometimes mistaken for being withdrawn, maybe even depressed. It’s just that I like to listen more than talk, most of the time.

That doesn’t mean that those who are shy do not have a vocation. Like you, I am discerning the path to religious life (God is calling me to be a nun). I’ve often wondered, especially at the beginning, if I am the right person for the job, but, as St. Therese described it, “God does not inspire unrealizable desires.”

Keep asking the Lord to guide you. It took me what seemed like several months to figure this out after I had begun my discernment, and 24 years before that. But the way I consider it, God knows exactly what you were meant for before you were born. He’s not forcing you to do it, but it’s where you will be truly happy, and He knows this. My prayers are with you my friend. May God continually guide you! :signofcross:
 
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