Invincible Ignorance ? Yeah right?

[Wannano]

Well that was incredibly rude of him.

I have heard a few anti-protestant remarks from Catholics but for the most part they speak well of our separated brethren. We even steal some of your contemporary Christian music

Actually is was kind of humorous and I think both Catholics and non-catholics there experienced a realization that this was old school and that things have and are changing.

Ahem, stealing music…well, I know we have some of yours but I think we just borrowed it!

 

[Hatikvah]

Well, stating merely from firsthand experience, one cornerstone of Protestantism, and the Reformers themselves set this out, believe that “the Church” is the very spiritual union of all true, faithful believers and it is the Body of Christ.

The Catholic doctrine of this idea is summed up in Pope Pius XII’s Mystici Corporis Christi (1943, papal encyclical).

 

[JonNC]

Well, stating merely from firsthand experience, one cornerstone of Protestantism, and the Reformers themselves set this out, believe that “the Church” is the very spiritual union of all true, faithful believers and it is the Body of Christ.

The Catholic doctrine of this idea is summed up in Pope Pius XII’s Mystici Corporis Christi (1943, papal encyclical).

Actually, it is more than that.
From the Augsburg Confession “The Church is the congregation of saints, in which the Gospel is rightly taught and the Sacraments are rightly administered.”

The Church exists for the preaching of the Gospel and the administration of the sacraments

Jon

 

[alwayswill]

Many Protestant churches (pastors) are anti-Catholic. Calvary Chapel is known for it (my brother attended one years ago and also found this to be true) and a mega Church I attended for bible study was so bad I had to stop attending.

I contacted the pastor of the mega church and asked him if he/they were teaching anti- Catholic things or had I just run into a few individuals with an axe to grind.

He told me that his church was anti- Catholic and suggested I stop attending bible study there because they weren’t going to change. That particular church had thousands of members at the time.

I know there are thousands of Protestant churches and I would like to think many are not anti-Catholic but I am not sure.

What do you mean by “anti-Cathoic”?
How can someone by “pro-Catholic” and not be Catholic?

I am not for Catholicism: I think itare in in error in many important ways.
If I thought Catholicism were correct: I would be Catholic.
Am I anti-Catholic?

 

[alwayswill]

Well, stating merely from firsthand experience, one cornerstone of Protestantism, and the Reformers themselves set this out, believe that “the Church” is the very spiritual union of all true, faithful believers and it is the Body of Christ.

The Catholic doctrine of this idea is summed up in Pope Pius XII’s Mystici Corporis Christi (1943, papal encyclical).

…“believe that “the Church” is the very spiritual union of all true, faithful believers and it is the Body of Christ.”<<<

Doesn’t the Catholic Church believe that?

From the CCC
790 Believers who respond to God’s word and become members of Christ’s Body,
805 The Church is the Body of Christ. Through the Spirit and his action in the sacraments, above all the Eucharist, Christ, who once was dead and is now risen, establishes the community of believers as his own Body

from newadvent.org/cathen/03744a.htm
ecclesia is never used by the Apostles to denote the Jewish Church. The word as a technical expression had been transferred to the community of Christian believers
As signifying the Church, the word Ecclesia is used by Christian writers, sometimes in a wider, sometimes in a more restricted sense.
•It is employed to denote all who, from the beginning of the world, have believed in the one true God, and have been made His children by grace
•It may signify the whole body of the faithful, including not merely the members of the Church who are alive on earth but those, too, whether in heaven or in purgatory

from newadvent.org/cathen/10663a.htm
This truth, that the Church is the mystical body of Christ, all its members being guided and directed by Christ the head,​

The Body of Christ consists of ALL believers; not just Cap C Catholics
and there are no unbelievers in the Body of Christ

 

[Bonnie]

What do you mean by “anti-Cathoic”?
How can someone by “pro-Catholic” and not be Catholic?

I am not for Catholicism: I think itare in in error in many important ways.
If I thought Catholicism were correct: I would be Catholic.
Am I anti-Catholic?

An anti-Catholic is someone who tells lies about the Church - and may or may not believe those lies.

One who disagrees with the actual teachings (not made-up things) is simply a non-believer.

 

[benjohnson]

How can someone by “pro-Catholic” and not be Catholic?

For me it’s easy: I respect and appreciate the Catholic church. I just think it’s wrong in some ways that don’t necessarily affect the salvation of it’s members, and form what I can see, the Catholic church meets the definition of a church: Where the Gospel is proclaimed and the Sacraments are administered.

 

[meltzerboy]

What do you mean by “anti-Cathoic”?
How can someone by “pro-Catholic” and not be Catholic?

I am not for Catholicism: I think itare in in error in many important ways.
If I thought Catholicism were correct: I would be Catholic.
Am I anti-Catholic?

To me, being pro-Catholic is not necessarily a matter of believing that Catholicism is correct. I am pro-choice with regard to all religion, provided the religion is not harmful to others. I am also pro-atheist if that is what one chooses. Likewise, I am pro-two-party system (and more) even though I do not believe in everything either major party stands for.

 

[Lenten_ashes]

Actually is was kind of humorous and I think both Catholics and non-catholics there experienced a realization that this was old school and that things have and are changing.

Ahem, stealing music…well, I know we have some of yours but I think we just borrowed it!

Yes, the era were common sense was not squelched by political correctness and traditional bathrooms were not considered to be evil lol