Invincible Ignorance

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Irenicist:
Even if such a generalization were true, it would still, in this case, be an ad hominem attack. You can dodge the point all you want, but avoiding the substance of an argument by raising a smoke screen of irrelevant personal specualtion about the disputant is harldy an appeal to dispationate (not to mention courteous) reason.

Here is what you wrote:

“Just like a Protestant to say that the Catholic Church is steeped in invincible ignorance.”

Here is what** GAssisi **wrote:

“The book also includes all the patristic proof that invincible ignorance has been preserved in the Catholic Church continuously down to this day…”

Even if one were to deliberately misread his choice of words as referring to the reality rather than the concept of “invicible ignorance”, only constructive misrepresentation could equate “has been preserved in” with “is steeped in”. And even if you legitimately insist on your a literal metaphor of “soaking in liquid” (“steeped in”) it would logically and gramatically read “invincible ignorance is steepd in the Catholic Church”, not the other way round. But this would not have quite served your intended purpose in mockery. So you twisted his words by inverting subject and object so as to make the words say plainly what they did not, and you then mocked the author (and the Catholic Church) in the process.

Quod est demonstrandum.

Irenicist
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I am sure you are absolutely right -in the way you perceive it yourself. I just do not see it as you do.
 
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GAssisi:
In fact, invincible ignorance is a biblical principle that has been preserved by the Catholic Church down to this day.
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If the Catholic church is in ignorance, then those that broke away from the Catholic Church must be in blissful ignorance.
Because like it or not, the Protestant faith came from the Catholic Church.
If you dilute the truth, then the truth is disected, and before you know it, you’ll have loads of Churches all with their own version of the truth.
I don’t think 33,000 denomations can all be telling the truth.
 
STIOFÁN:
If the Catholic church is in ignorance, then those that broke away from the Catholic Church must be in blissful ignorance.
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A welcome voice from the Isle of Saints. I think the idea of being saved by blissful ignorance is so much more attractive than invincible ignorance. Of course neither is in the Catechism but, if we had a choice…

Athair Ambrois
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Irenicist:
I don’t know of any saints who found mockery of others humorous.
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Please be sure and invite me to your canonization process – I’ll be the one in the back …far back.
 
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oriel36:
Oh come on,it was funny and besides Gas was digging himself a hole he could’nt get out of.

Just follow his posting history before he started this thread and it just makes it more funny.
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You’re right
😃 and Mark Twain would just love this thread…I can hear him now, pontificating puffery…
 
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oriel36:
Oh come on,it was funny and besides Gas was digging himself a hole he could’nt get out of.

Just follow his posting history before he started this thread and it just makes it more funny.
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Well poor Gas isn’t here to defend himself, and I have said my piece. I don’t intend to belabour Fr. Ambrose any further on the matter. 🙂

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HagiaSophia:
Please be sure and invite me to your canonization process – I’ll be the one in the back …far back.
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It’ll not only be a poor view, but a very long wait as well. 😃

Irenicist
 
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