Invincible Ignorance

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With computers, networks, etc… (and other forms of instant communication), is the age of “invincible ignorance” basically closed? I’m not talking about some long lost tribe deep in the Amazon, but for most “modern” people alive on the planet today. There’s always exceptions, but I’m asking in general. For example… I hear people talk and quote sports stats over hour after hour. Yet they, even most Catholics, couldn’t tell you some of the most basic tenets of faith. Is there an excuse for this?
 
With computers, networks, etc… (and other forms of instant communication), is the age of “invincible ignorance” basically closed?
No. Invincible ignorance is not solely a function the intellect but also of the heart. We are shaped by many things, and information is only one of those things.
 
With computers, networks, etc… (and other forms of instant communication), is the age of “invincible ignorance” basically closed? I’m not talking about some long lost tribe deep in the Amazon, but for most “modern” people alive on the planet today. There’s always exceptions, but I’m asking in general. For example… I hear people talk and quote sports stats over hour after hour. Yet they, even most Catholics, couldn’t tell you some of the most basic tenets of faith. Is there an excuse for this?
I don’t believe computers, TV, etc. has generally decreased ignorance. I’m convinced of this every time I hear a talking head speak on television.
 
“Invincible ignorance” might still apply if, for instance, you were brought up in a strong protestant household. Many people are from families that have belonged to at least one protestant denomination for centuries even.
If you are from such a family you may have gone to church practically every Sunday since you were young. You may have been raised in an environment that results in you having no reason for investigating the Catholic Church. Your views may be very ingrained by the time you are an adult. (Some of my ancestors were openly hostile to the Catholic Church, to some degree.)
I would think that these kind of circumstances could lead to “invincible ignorance”, and yet one’s faith in Jesus (along with a faulty understanding of ‘church’) could be very strong.

Reg.
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I agree with the others that simply having access to information does not make all ignorance vincible.
There are many factors that can play into this.
  1. Education level. A person who can barely read is unlikely to get much out of most spiritual writing, including the bible.
  2. General intelligence. A person who is unable to comprehend deep abstract thought may not be able to come to a proper understanding of an issue.
  3. Background. As another pointed out, if one is thoroughly indoctrinated a certain way all their life, they not be able to get past it.
  4. Insufficient time to study. Many people do not have the time to study up on things that trouble them. They may have interest, they may want to know, but they simply don’t have the time to really sit down and read and properly digest.
There are probably other factors as well as interactions between the ones listed above.
So - even with all sorts of information available, there may well be reasons why a person remains invincibly ignorant.

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James
 
“Invincible ignorance” is by definition, “unconquerable.” So, if unconquerable ignorance has been conquered with that advent of high-tech communications, then it was never unconquerable to begin with.
 
“Invincible ignorance” is by definition, “unconquerable.” So, if unconquerable ignorance has been conquered with that advent of high-tech communications, then it was never unconquerable to begin with.
Dave,
You’re brilliant!
Put like that it seems so obvious.
(I would have said the same if I would have thought of it before you. :mad: )

God be with you,
Reg.
 
Dave,
You’re brilliant!
Put like that it seems so obvious.
(I would have said the same if I would have thought of it before you. :mad: )

God be with you,
Reg.
Thanks. I must have one of those epiphanies which seem to come directly after having that first cup of “Mystic Monk” coffee. 😃
 
… I hear people talk and quote sports stats over hour after hour. Yet they, even most Catholics, couldn’t tell you some of the most basic tenets of faith. Is there an excuse for this?
You might be interested in what Pope St. Pius X had to say about this very thing (see below). His encyclical was published even before the advent of high-tech communications, but I think his criticism is even more relevant today. What it speaks to is not “invincible ignorance”, but is instead referring to that ignorance which is called, vincible, or worse, “crass ignorance” (affected ignorance).

St. Pius X’s, On Teaching Christian Doctrine (Acerbo Nimis, 1905)

Here are some excerpts…
We are forced to agree with those who hold that the chief cause of the present indifference and, as it were, infirmity of soul, and the serious evils that result from it, is to be found above all in ignorance of things divine…"

“…there are large numbers of Christians in our own time who are entirely ignorant of those truths necessary for salvation. And when we mention Christians, We refer not only to the masses or to those in the lower walks of life - for these find some excuse for their ignorance in the fact that the demands of their harsh employers hardly leave them time to take care of themselves or of their dear ones - but We refer to those especially who do not lack culture or talents and, indeed, are possessed of abundant knowledge regarding things of the world but live rashly and imprudently with regard to religion. It is hard to find words to describe how profound is the darkness in which they are engulfed and, what is most deplorable of all, how tranquilly they repose there…”

“…We by no means wish to conclude that a perverse will and unbridled conduct may not be joined with a knowledge of religion. Would to God that facts did not too abundantly prove the contrary! But We do maintain that the will cannot be upright nor the conduct good when the mind is shrouded in the darkness of crass ignorance. A man who walks with open eyes may, indeed, turn aside from the right path, but a blind man is in much more imminent danger of wandering away. Furthermore, there is always some hope for a reform of perverse conduct so long as the light of faith is not entirely extinguished; but if lack of faith is added to depraved morality because of ignorance, the evil hardly admits of remedy, and the road to ruin lies open…”

"…if faith languishes in our days, if among large numbers it has almost vanished, ***the reason is that the duty of catechetical teaching is either fulfilled very superficially or altogether neglected… ***Man has the faculty of understanding at his birth, but he also has need of his mother’s word to awaken it, as it were, and to make it active. So too, the Christian, born again of water and the Holy Spirit, has faith within him, but he requires the word of the teaching Church to nourish and develop it and to make it bear fruit…"

“…Since it is a fact that*** in these days adults need instruction no less than the young, all pastors and those having the care of souls shall explain the Catechism to the people in a plain and simple style adapted to the intelligence of their hearers***…”

“…of [the Apostles] Pope Saint Gregory wrote: “They took supreme care to preach to the uninstructed simple truths easy to understand, not things deep and difficult” [Morals, I, 17, cap. 26]. In matters of religion, the majority of men in our times must be considered uninstructed…”
 
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