Invitation by Homosexual daughter

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Well, in any case, OP I want to know how you continue to handle the situation.

I’m in a similar situation with a family member.
 
AdamP88 said:
… the actual fact that there are certain things you shouldn’t co-operate in.
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Then you erroneously reject the Church’s theology that many questions of daily Catholic morality cannot be objectively encapsulated by a universal rule always and everywhere beforehand.
One must apply reason to the actual circumstances.
That is called a prudential issue.

You clearly do not understand the difference between scenarios whose immorality hinges on circumstances and those that do not (intrinsically and gravely evil).

Homosexual acts are gravely and intrinsically evil/disordered regardless of circumstances.
Merely attending a civil union ceremony between same sex persons is not. It depends on circumstances. One may therefore have proportionate reasons for doing so.
Just as a good Catholic wife is sometimes allowed to have sex with her non Catholic condomised husband on the same principles.

If one cannot accept this distinction, or does not have the theological octane to understand it, then intelligent conversation is not possible due to invincible ignorance.

I can see we have likely reached this point so I will not be dignifying these aberrant views with further converse sorry.
God bless.
 
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BlackFriar:
I suggest a reread of this one may be helpful for yours:
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Ah the common “you’re an uncharitable/uncompassionate/uncaring person.” Usually goes hand in hand with being called “right wing” or “traditionalist”.
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By all means blame Jesus if you must.
 
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You’ve stated you won’t go to the wedding. Does your daughter know this and her response was to invite you to dinner?

I can understand not going to the wedding, I cannot understand not going over to dinner. Two different issues entirely. My inclination would be to go to dinner and if the subject comes up, lovingly explain why you feel the way you do. Unless you never want to be invited to have anything to do with your daughter again, I would suggest going to dinner.

The Church doesn’t teach that we should sever ties with family members who have SSA, but that we should treat them with respect and love. Explain to your child that you believe that she should want people who support her decision to witness the day for her and since you cannot do that, it wouldn’t be appropriate for you to attend, BUT, that you certainly don’t want to sever your relationship. Explain to her that you love her, you will always love her, but part of loving someone is admitting when they are doing things that endanger the state of their eternal souls.

I realize that this sounds really harsh, and people getting upset when we talk about judging the states of others’ souls, but I’m not judging anyone, I’m talking about the things that we are taught that are sins and how we are all responsible for gently, and lovingly guiding the people we love away from sins that threaten them.
 
TheLittleLady said:
On the other hand, if you want to show witness that the Church shuns people who sin, to show that there is a clear line and once the sin crosses that line the sinner is virtually cast into outer darkness until they repent, then stay home.
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This is unfair. They’re not shunning their daughter, they’re refusing to legitimize a sinful lifestyle.
 
BlackFriar said:
I concentrate on grace and minding my own spiritual business myself.
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If everyone kept their spirituality to themselves, we wouldn’t have converts.

I would gently advise you to consider Matthew 13.
 
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BlackFriar said:
In 20 years time the Church will quietly accept the legalisation of SS relationships as it has done with decriminalisation of sodomy, prostitution, adultery etc etc etc.
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…please, PLEASE show me where the Church teaches that “sodomy, prostitution, adultery etc etc etc” are things that we should quietly accept, rather than gently but firmly speak the truth about and then avoid.

Please consider Matthew 13. I am worried for you.
 
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JanetF said:
I can understand not going to the wedding, I cannot understand not going over to dinner. Two different issues entirely. My inclination would be to go to dinner and if the subject comes up, lovingly explain why you feel the way you do. Unless you never want to be invited to have anything to do with your daughter again, I would suggest going to dinner.
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Yeah. I actually think they might even understand more you not going to the wedding than not going to dinner.
 
It must be difficult to only accept dinner invitations from non-sinners. Everyone I’ve ever had dinner with has been a sinner.
 
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BlackFriar:
When States are no longer Christian then Christians must accept the difference in mores between the two institutions will increase accordingly.
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Bluntly: Like hell. This is dangerously lukewarm.
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Memento mori its fairly clear it is already a fact of history regardless of your Carnutian consternations:
 
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BlackFriar said:
Nor is this major event “a sinful lifestyle”
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It is the celebration of a sinful lifestyle. I have to agree with @Raxus. What you’re bringing to this thread is very close to a kind of “whatever your having yourself” brand of Christianity.
 
AdamP88 said:
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BlackFriar:
Nor is this major event “a sinful lifestyle”
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It is the celebration of a sinful lifestyle. I have to agree with @Raxus. What you’re bringing to this thread is very close to a kind of “whatever your having yourself” brand of Christianity.
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BlackFriar said:
I can see we have likely reached this point so I will not be dignifying these aberrant views with further converse sorry.

God bless.
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@BlackFriar For the record this is the passage from the catechism about sin:
1868 Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:
  • by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
  • by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
  • by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
  • by protecting evil-doers.
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Pretty clear from that that their is an obligation to “not approve” of sin.

Also for the record, I could find no catholic docment that shares your view point. Anything written on this “strongly encourages” people to refrain from attending. And generally they say that because the same-sex wedding doesn’t even have the appearance of real marriage, it is a mockery of the sacrament and undermines the nature of marriage.

As I said, some things should not be co-operated in.
 
AdamP88 said:
Pretty clear from that that their is an obligation to “not approve” of sin.

Also for the record, I could find no catholic docment that shares your view point. Anything written on this “strongly encourages” people to refrain from attending.

As I said, some things should not be co-operated in.
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BlackFriar said:
Just as a good Catholic wife is sometimes allowed to have sex with her non Catholic condomised husband on the same principles.
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