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Zerith
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Tell me, how then, did we, the Irish fight the English from the period of 1918 - 1921? Did we magically create an army from nothing?
The Jews and Arabs both fought the British with what they could, using agrarian tactics, riots, and even terrorist activities.
After Independance, it fought with them, in 1948. Of course.
Oooh, another American speaking ill of an independant, peace-keeping neutral organisation? I really am getting sick of this, you know. Oh, right, so Kosovo means nothing. (Even Ireland commits more troops to the UN than America. And we only commit over four-hundred). Do you want me to give you a list of all countries who recognised the 1988 declaration from the Palestinians? Again, the Vatican was one country which recognised it, and recognises the Palestinian State. (With another twenty or so countries giving special status to the Palestinians)
So… By example of Ireland, again, I shall comment on what you said.
When Ireland was immediately partitioned, we had a bitter civil war, a lot of people disliked the exclusion of the northern sixth, though there was minimal fighting in the North. Now, put this in perspective to Isræl and Palestine - The Palestinians did not accept this, now, they obviously revolted at the partition, Isræl fought back, does it matter in what way they fought back? With an army which is conscripted and full of inexperienced people, or not? Either way, they made incursions into the territory which was not included in Isræl - Continuing my example above, imagine during the Irish civil war, due to a few divisions of the anti-treaty forces fighting up North, that the Unionist terrorist organisations (Or according to the Unionists: “Ligitimate defenders”) decided to invade South-wards, taking more territory than they had. Again: Doesn’t matter in which way they fought, due to one side’s rejection of the partition plan, does not constitute the invasion and annexation of non-Isræli territories. Certainly, for the defence of the nation, I agree, they could not sit there, but annexation… I cannot agree too.
One thing I forgot to mention: Do you know about the Jewish terrorist organisations? Of course not. They are ultra-Nationalists, who attack their own, for their lack of extremism - Wait a moment, that sounds like Islamic terrorists, no? I remember a report, a year or so ago, about an army soldier killed due to him following orders to remove a Jewish family from an illegal house. So, you may go on about Arab/Islamic terrorists, but you, and the wider-Isræli supportering group, did not know about said Jewish ultra-nationalist terrorists (Also, what’s coincidental, the colour the ultra-Nationalists use is orange, the exact colour used by Unionists and Loyalists. I wonder… What else do they have in common, then, besides tactics and oppression?)
Hashi:
I try not to take sides, but ultimately, at the moment, the Arabs are being oppressed, and even ignored. While I do not agree with their tactics - I.e. suicide bombings etc… Nor do I agree with how they treat Holy Sites of other religions, but I do believe they should be helped. I will not oppose Isræl’s existance, it is a bit too late for that, but I wouldn’t have, anyway. While the origional partition plan is something I deem acceptable, their incursions into non-Isræli territory. But of course, nothing will ever get done - Why? Isræl’s the “Bastion” of Democracy and Western ideology in the Middle East, standing alone against a billion Muslims, who at any moment, could take up arms. And other random propeganda ****. While personally I prefer the, Western ideology, I cannot support Isræl in its entirety. Therefore, I try to remain as neutral as I possibly can, though of course that is slightly towards the Arabs. I just lay out many facts, and comparisons, how they’re interperated…
