Irish Catholic, Polish Catholic, Roman Catholic?

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Are all the different catholic groups all the same kind of catholicism, or was their a schism?
 
They are all the same. In the US, people from different areas of Europe would usually settle in the same areas, and churches were built for that group of people. Even today, you will sometimes hear that certain churches are Irish, Polish, German, Italian etc., because a majority of the parishioners are from that culture. They may have different customs at those churches (outside of the liturgy), but the mass is the same, unless it is the Eastern Church traditions, where the liturgy is a little different, but not much. They are all under the umbrella of the Roman Catholic Church.
 
coco2 said:
They are all the same. They are all under the umbrella of the Roman Catholic Church.
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Except for those who are not - like the Polish National Catholics, or the Old Catholics, or the Celtic Catholics, or other independent Churches. I know TrinitySaves probably didn’t mean such branches of the Church, but I just wanted to mention that it’s a bit more complicated than what coco claims.
 
As already mentioned, it’s the same. But I’d recommend taking it a step further if you can, like attend mass in a historically italian neighborhood (like little Italy, Boston’s North End, or whatever is near you), then attend a Spanish speaking mass. Even if you don’t understand the Spanish, you’ll get by fine because it’s the same. You WILL note some major differences though, the energy in a mass with the Hispanic community is completely different than an Italian community, or any other mass. Different cultures have different customs and styles you may pick up on…such as different artwork, or a bigger emphasis on statues vs painting, or kissing/not kissing fingertips after making the sign of the cross. It’s interesting, but also very beautiful to see the diversity within the Church.
 
coco2 said:
They are all under the umbrella of the Roman Catholic Church.
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They are under the umbrella of the Catholic Church. The “Roman Catholic Church” was originally a pejorative name given the Church by protestants. Nowadays “Roman” Catholic Church generally refers to the Western or Latin Rite of the Catholic Church. Eastern Rite churches are also part of the Catholic Church.
 
It depends whether they are in full communion with the holy see.
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If not they are not catholic but basically protestants.
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TheTrinitySaves said:
Are all the different catholic groups all the same kind of catholicism, or was their a schism?
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As someone whose parents are from Poland, we went to Mass in Polish. We had our own customs but these were traditions handed down through the generations. The blessing of food before Easter was one custom. A basket was filled with traditional food items, brought to Church and the priest blessed us and them. The Church recognized us depending on where we lived but we are in no way separate and there is/was no schism. We are Roman Catholics.

Ed
 
Why?
If they operate outside of the Roman church they are not part of now are they? 🤷
Like the SSPX.
 
edwest2 said:
As someone whose parents are from Poland, we went to Mass in Polish. We had our own customs but these were traditions handed down through the generations. The blessing of food before Easter was one custom. A basket was filled with traditional food items, brought to Church and the priest blessed us and them. The Church recognized us depending on where we lived but we are in no way separate and there is/was no schism. We are Roman Catholics.

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Święconka! Haven’t done that since I was a child. 🙂
My grandmother once told me she and some of the other women would only go to Polish speaking priests for Confession because they preferred to speak Polish when they did it. (I should add that they were all born in the U.S.)

I’ve since heard of non-Polish parishes having a basket blessing service, and maybe even some non-Catholic churches as well.
 
on_the_hill said:
Święconka! Haven’t done that since I was a child. 🙂
My grandmother once told me she and some of the other women would only go to Polish speaking priests for Confession because they preferred to speak Polish when they did it. (I should add that they were all born in the U.S.)

I’ve since heard of non-Polish parishes having a basket blessing service, and maybe even some non-Catholic churches as well.
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My first spoken words were Polish. We spoke both. And there are certain idiosyncrasies in the language that do not translate well into English. The same with German, for example. The Germans have very long words that are a combination of words that need to be broken apart for translation into English. The Poles could use a single letter like “i” to mean “and” (pronounced ee). Or my mother would ask my dad “masz” or “Do you have…?”

Love of culture and homeland, even if born in America and not from the “old country,” meant and still means a lot to ethnic and next generation Poles.

Ed
 
Irish Catholic? Aye
Polish Catholic? Tak
Roman Catholic? AMEN!!!

Oh, can’t forget… English Catholic? Right!
 
PapyrusDouay said:
As already mentioned, it’s the same. But I’d recommend taking it a step further if you can, like attend mass in a historically italian neighborhood (like little Italy, Boston’s North End, or whatever is near you), then attend a Spanish speaking mass. Even if you don’t understand the Spanish, you’ll get by fine because it’s the same. You WILL note some major differences though, the energy in a mass with the Hispanic community is completely different than an Italian community, or any other mass. Different cultures have different customs and styles you may pick up on…such as different artwork, or a bigger emphasis on statues vs painting, or kissing/not kissing fingertips after making the sign of the cross. It’s interesting, but also very beautiful to see the diversity within the Church.
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I must have gone to the wrong parish - I once attended a Mass in the North End. It was very US NE. Full stop. The priest’s accent really threw me for a loop - he was a local no question there. 😃
 
As a Polish Catholic, I can tell you that the Mass is the same. The Poles have their own customs and traditions, such as celebrating the feast day of Our Lady of Czestochowa. However, with the Easter Triduum approaching I have to say, the way the Poles celebrate the liturgy on Good Friday and Easter Sunday is a tad different. On Good Friday, there is a procession after Communion has ended to a sepulcher were a veiled monstrance is carried and remains exposed until the Easter Vigil.
After the Vigil, the blessed sacrament is exposed once again at the tomb without a veil and a procession takes places on Easter Sunday usually outside before mass at dawn.
I always loved attending the 6 a.m. mass which began with a lot of incense and bells ringing walking around the church as the sun rises, its a very uplifting experience.

Here is an example of a tomb with a veiled monstrance exposed:
nsj.rodzina.net/aktualnosci/triduum_pt2011/wlk_pt_11_32.jpg
(This is not the same as the place of repose used on Holy Thursday)
 
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